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Jun 4th, 2002, 06:08 PM
Jim Davis

server sucks

[QUOTE]

Pinging www.vbforums.com (161.58.186.97) with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=151ms TTL=243
Request timed out.
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=150ms TTL=243
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=150ms TTL=243
Request timed out.
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=151ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=150ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 161.58.186.97:
Packets: Sent = 28, Received = 18, Lost = 10 (35% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 140ms, Maximum = 160ms, Average = 92ms

[/QOUTE]

just fix your server guys, its very crap...

Regards,
Jim.
Jun 4th, 2002, 06:10 PM
Jim Davis

well.. it looks like the qoute not works yet..
Jun 4th, 2002, 07:21 PM
NotLKH

Re: server sucks

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Davis

[/QOUTE]

Next time, try [/QUOTE]
;)
Jun 4th, 2002, 08:23 PM
John

And blame the network not the server. Could you do a tracert next time, so that we can get some idea of where the problem is?

Thanks,
John
Jun 5th, 2002, 04:25 AM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by John
And blame the network not the server. Could you do a tracert next time, so that we can get some idea of where the problem is?

Thanks,
John

Well I find it quite difficult to use the forums at times.
Happened earlier this morning.
Anyway, right now its working fine, and here is my own trace.

I'll try another trace when it won't work for me

Code:

Tracing route to www.vbforums.com [161.58.186.97] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 * 30 ms 40 ms ts14.dublin.indigo.ie [194.125.145.174] 3 30 ms 40 ms 40 ms fe1-0.tr1.cra.dublin.eircom.net [194.125.145.107] 4 110 ms 131 ms 100 ms fa0-0-0.core1.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.191.65] 5 70 ms 50 ms 121 ms pos5-0-0.core2.adl.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.192.246] 6 50 ms 50 ms 100 ms pos1-0-0.core1.the.london.eircom.net [159.134.191.102] 7 100 ms 50 ms 60 ms ge-1.linx.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net [195.66.225.138] 8 40 ms 50 ms 50 ms p4-0-1-0.r00.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.33] 9 51 ms 60 ms 50 ms p4-1-1-0.r00.amstnl02.nl.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.51] 10 51 ms 60 ms 50 ms p4-0-3-0.r01.amstnl02.nl.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.133] 11 141 ms 150 ms 140 ms p4-0-1-0.r80.nwrknj01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.222] 12 140 ms 150 ms 140 ms p4-1-3-0.r01.nwrknj01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.41] 13 140 ms 150 ms 150 ms p4-0-1.r01.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.125] 14 140 ms 150 ms 151 ms p4-1-0-0.r00.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.153] 15 211 ms 150 ms 160 ms p4-6-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.105] 16 170 ms 171 ms 270 ms ge-4-1.c00.stngva01.us.ah.vwh.net [129.250.27.184] 17 251 ms 160 ms 150 ms 161.58.156.173 18 170 ms 360 ms 241 ms vbforums.com [161.58.186.97] Trace complete.
Jun 5th, 2002, 08:50 AM
filburt1

Actually the server is awesome here:

Code:

C:\>ping -n 15 vbforums.com Pinging vbforums.com [161.58.186.97] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=244 Ping statistics for 161.58.186.97: Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms C:\>tracert vbforums.com Tracing route to vbforums.com [161.58.186.97] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms vlan230-csr1.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.216.1] 2 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms gsfc-fw1.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.238.1] 3 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms wan2-fw.gsfc.nasa.gov [198.119.58.2] 4 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms rtr-internet-ef.gsfc.nasa.gov [192.43.240.36] 5 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 128.161.3.12 6 <10 ms <10 ms 16 ms 192.84.8.66 7 <10 ms <10 ms 16 ms p4-4-0-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.250] 8 <10 ms <10 ms 15 ms p16-7-0-0.r02.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.46] 9 <10 ms <10 ms 16 ms ge-3-1.c00.stngva01.us.ah.vwh.net [129.250.27.216] 10 <10 ms <10 ms 15 ms 161.58.156.173 11 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms vbforums.com [161.58.186.97] Trace complete.
Jun 5th, 2002, 02:01 PM
Martin Wilson

And one more:

Quote:

C:\>ping -n 15 vbforums.com

Pinging vbforums.com [161.58.186.97] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=260ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=251ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=260ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=260ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=250ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=230ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=241ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=230ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=241ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=230ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=221ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=243
Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=240ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 161.58.186.97:
Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 220ms, Maximum = 270ms, Average = 244ms

C:\>tracert vbforums.com

Tracing route to vbforums.com [161.58.186.97]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 180 ms 160 ms 120 ms snake.lns.birmingham.access.planet.net.uk [195.92.168.32]
2 110 ms 801 ms 120 ms PBR-1.BRM.AS5388.NET [195.92.168.2]
3 120 ms 110 ms 120 ms ge-0.linx.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net [195.66.224.138]
4 110 ms 120 ms 120 ms p4-2-0-0.r01.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.81]
5 240 ms 241 ms 240 ms p4-1-0-0.r80.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.181]
6 190 ms 190 ms 190 ms p16-0-1-3.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.170]
7 200 ms 201 ms 200 ms p16-5-0-0.r02.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.99]
8 201 ms 200 ms 200 ms p16-7-0-0.r01.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.20]
9 240 ms 200 ms 191 ms p16-3-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.74]
10 271 ms 220 ms 220 ms ge-4-1.c00.stngva01.us.ah.vwh.net [129.250.27.184]
11 270 ms 261 ms 260 ms 161.58.156.173
12 190 ms 201 ms 190 ms vbforums.com [161.58.186.97]

Trace complete.
Jun 5th, 2002, 06:02 PM
John

plenderj, that looks like a problem with your ISP to me.

And of course we run Linux, don't want PHP/MySQL on Windows!?!
Jun 5th, 2002, 06:55 PM
filburt1

Still weird though John, the board does seem extremely slow for several minute intervals for no reason. Then again vB's support forums do that too every now and then too but these get a lot more traffic.
Jun 6th, 2002, 05:50 AM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by John
plenderj, that looks like a problem with your ISP to me.

And of course we run Linux, don't want PHP/MySQL on Windows!?!

Ah well doesn't bother me :)
And don't you think thats a little ... well ... I'm not sure of a proper adjective, but running a site about windows programming on a linux server.
Just seems odd :)

Also, why not use proper SQL Server on a windows server ?
It'd kick mySQL's ass!
Jun 6th, 2002, 06:51 AM
filburt1

vB hasn't been ported to work with SQL Server, only MySQL, and they say that they have no intentions to change.
Jun 6th, 2002, 06:59 AM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by filburt1
vB hasn't been ported to work with SQL Server, only MySQL, and they say that they have no intentions to change.

Piece of crap freeware bull****...

Ya buy the kit and the software off me, and then look here :
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tre...vg/Miglamp.asp

See?
Problem solved!
Jun 6th, 2002, 08:23 AM
filburt1

For some reason I doubt that John and the devs would port the several thousand lines of PHP code to use SQL Server rather than MySQL just because somebody thinks it's crap. The main reasons it uses MySQL in the first place is because (1) it's really fast, (2) it's free, and (3) most hosts who offer PHP offer only MySQL because of (1) and (2).
Jun 6th, 2002, 08:28 AM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by John
plenderj, that looks like a problem with your ISP to me.

And of course we run Linux, don't want PHP/MySQL on Windows!?!

btw here is an alternate route i just got :

Code:

Tracing route to www.vbforums.com [161.58.186.97] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 641 ms 961 ms 1282 ms 194.125.145.176 3 * * 1762 ms fa2-0.tr2.cra.dublin.eircom.net [194.125.145.126] 4 70 ms 210 ms 211 ms fa0-0-0.core1.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.191.65] 5 371 ms 380 ms 391 ms pos0-0-0.core1.thn.london.eircom.net [159.134.191.98] 6 350 ms 190 ms 581 ms pos1-0-0.core1.the.london.eircom.net [159.134.191.14] 7 891 ms 211 ms 741 ms ge-1.linx.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net [195.66.225.138] 8 1132 ms 580 ms 962 ms p4-1-0-0.r80.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.181] 9 721 ms 751 ms 791 ms p16-0-1-3.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.170] 10 2003 ms 390 ms 1713 ms p16-5-0-0.r02.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.99] 11 1752 ms 2514 ms 2023 ms p16-7-0-0.r01.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.20] 12 * * 892 ms p16-3-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.74] 13 170 ms 340 ms 131 ms ge-4-1.c00.stngva01.us.ah.vwh.net [129.250.27.184] 14 731 ms 1162 ms 731 ms 161.58.156.173 15 631 ms 381 ms 641 ms vbforums.com [161.58.186.97] Trace complete.
Jun 6th, 2002, 08:29 AM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by filburt1
For some reason I doubt that John and the devs would port the several thousand lines of PHP code to use SQL Server rather than MySQL just because somebody thinks it's crap. The main reasons it uses MySQL in the first place is because (1) it's really fast, (2) it's free, and (3) most hosts who offer PHP offer only MySQL because of (1) and (2).

To hell with getting someone to host the forums.
Just build a fast server, and have the server hosted in a server farm somewhere.
And surely PHP can be used with SQL ?
Jun 6th, 2002, 09:03 AM
chrisjk

yes it can, but as has been said, MySQL is one of the fastest RDMS there is, SQL Server is poor in comparison.
Jun 6th, 2002, 09:11 AM
plenderj

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluat.../fastfacts.asp
http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluat.../switchers.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluat...erformance.asp

I don't know why anyone would go with anything but proper SQL
Jun 6th, 2002, 09:19 AM
chrisjk

and microsoft are a trusted source? At least try and find some independent verification

And why isn't mysql proper exactly? Because it's free?!

http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,a=23370,00.asp
Jun 6th, 2002, 09:32 AM
plenderj

Right so according to the analysis popup window, SQL server outdoes mySQL on everything but performance on JSP pages.
And the tests are also for extremely high utilization of the servers, not just normal activity.

And according to this :
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/...atures_SQL.xls

mySQL seems to do sweet FA in comparison to the other database servers
Jun 6th, 2002, 09:42 AM
chrisjk

as far as I'm aware, mysql's strength is in it's SELECT ability but INSERTS aren't as good. So it depends what you want to do with it

and it costs nothing

Quote:

DB2 Universal Database 7.2
$20,000 per CPU (unlimited users)

Microsoft SQL Server 2000 SP2
$19,999 per CPU

MySQL 4.0
Free download; commercial license up to $200

Oracle9i Database
$40,000 per CPU (or $800 per named user)

What about SQL Servers shocking error rate?! 10%!!
Jun 6th, 2002, 09:46 AM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisjk
as far as I'm aware, mysql's strength is in it's SELECT ability but INSERTS aren't as good. So it depends what you want to do with it

and it costs nothing

What about SQL Servers shocking error rate?! 10%!!

Well everyone makes mistakes from time to time don't they :)
Jun 6th, 2002, 09:54 AM
chrisjk

lol, yep :)

Dunno about you but I haven't got 20 grand to spend on that. If you have, well then fair enough I guess you get what you pay for.

mysql is still the most popular and in the end popularity wins over. And it's good for mission critical stuff...I doubt anything from MS can be considered so ;)
Jun 6th, 2002, 10:00 AM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisjk
And it's good for mission critical stuff...I doubt anything from MS can be considered so ;)

*cough*splutter*cough*
dont get me started :)
Jun 6th, 2002, 10:09 AM
chrisjk

apart from Windows 2000 of course ;)
Jun 6th, 2002, 02:39 PM
parksie

Code:

[mike@biscuit ~]> traceroute www.vbforums.com traceroute to www.vbforums.com (161.58.186.97), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 relativity (192.168.0.1) 0.845 ms 0.509 ms 0.479 ms 2 bthg231-hg4.miltonkeynes.broadband.bt.net (217.35.199.203) 113.965 ms 18.473 ms 69.874 ms 3 217.35.199.161 (217.35.199.161) 19.792 ms 18.370 ms 19.676 ms 4 217.35.199.234 (217.35.199.234) 80.237 ms 26.966 ms 49.948 ms 5 inh2cs01-602.imsnet2.btopenworld.com (62.7.251.1) 29.786 ms 27.913 ms 19.887 ms 6 213.120.62.146 (213.120.62.146) 19.946 ms 28.757 ms 19.828 ms 7 213.120.207.221 (213.120.207.221) 30.213 ms 26.751 ms 19.914 ms 8 core2-pos4-3.bletchley.ukcore.bt.net (194.72.31.37) 19.921 ms 17.968 ms 19.883 ms 9 core2-pos5-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (194.74.65.225) 29.972 ms 28.523 ms 19.864 ms 10 core2-pos7-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (194.74.65.121) 29.984 ms 28.053 ms 60.122 ms 11 ge-1.linx.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net (195.66.225.138) 29.945 ms 25.450 ms 30.004 ms 12 p4-1-0-0.r80.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.181) 109.911 ms 97.767 ms 99.876 ms 13 p16-0-1-3.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.170) 119.924 ms 97.732 ms 99.951 ms 14 p16-5-0-0.r02.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.99) 230.244 ms 108.736 ms 110.011 ms 15 p16-7-0-0.r01.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.20) 109.848 ms 107.356 ms 110.018 ms 16 p16-3-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.74) 109.942 ms 108.565 ms 109.949 ms 17 ge-4-1.c00.stngva01.us.ah.vwh.net (129.250.27.184) 250.018 ms 109.085 ms 109.890 ms 18 161.58.156.173 (161.58.156.173) 99.818 ms 108.313 ms 199.830 ms 19 vbforums.com (161.58.186.97) 110.356 ms 128.032 ms 110.086 ms [mike@biscuit ~]> ping www.vbforums.com PING www.vbforums.com (161.58.186.97) from 192.168.0.10 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from vbforums.com (161.58.186.97): icmp_seq=0 ttl=234 time=107.645 msec 64 bytes from vbforums.com (161.58.186.97): icmp_seq=1 ttl=234 time=260.223 msec 64 bytes from vbforums.com (161.58.186.97): icmp_seq=2 ttl=234 time=111.308 msec 64 bytes from vbforums.com (161.58.186.97): icmp_seq=3 ttl=234 time=102.499 msec 64 bytes from vbforums.com (161.58.186.97): icmp_seq=4 ttl=234 time=103.927 msec 64 bytes from vbforums.com (161.58.186.97): icmp_seq=5 ttl=234 time=105.164 msec 64 bytes from vbforums.com (161.58.186.97): icmp_seq=6 ttl=234 time=116.492 msec 64 bytes from vbforums.com (161.58.186.97): icmp_seq=7 ttl=234 time=268.036 msec --- www.vbforums.com ping statistics --- 8 packets transmitted, 8 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 102.499/146.911/268.036/67.832 ms [mike@biscuit ~]>

Looks like it should work, I just can't post anything....
Jun 6th, 2002, 07:54 PM
John

If you are going to put up the money for all these wonderful changes to MS software, then go ahead. Otherwise accept that we will continue to use free software as long as VB World is run as a free service by us.
Jun 6th, 2002, 08:00 PM
chrisjk

acid-tongue John strikes again!
Jun 6th, 2002, 08:03 PM
John

;)
Jun 7th, 2002, 02:26 AM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by John
If you are going to put up the money for all these wonderful changes to MS software, then go ahead. Otherwise accept that we will continue to use free software as long as VB World is run as a free service by us.

Okay.
So if one of our companies gives you some decent kit, with Windows 2000 Server and SQL Server 2000 1CPU installed, you'd port VBF ?
Jun 7th, 2002, 05:24 AM
Jim Davis

Re: Re: server sucks

Quote:

Originally posted by NotLKH

Next time, try [/QUOTE]
;)

AHAHAHAHAHA OO MY GOD! :)
i'm sorry, im was tired a bit :)))
Jim
Jun 7th, 2002, 05:28 AM
Jim Davis

Quote:

Originally posted by John
And blame the network not the server. Could you do a tracert next time, so that we can get some idea of where the problem is?

Thanks,
John

i'm sorry i was forgot the tracert :|

Quote:

C:\>tracert www.vbforums.com

Tracing route to www.vbforums.com [161.58.186.97]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms as-46-1.matav.net [145.236.225.174]
2 20 ms 30 ms 30 ms fe2-1.core0-kecskemet.matav.net [145.236.145.5]

3 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms core0.matav.net [145.236.225.4]
4 241 ms 80 ms 40 ms g1-0-0.border2.matav.net [145.236.246.254]
5 50 ms 50 ms 51 ms dtag-if.matav.net [145.236.246.10]
6 140 ms 150 ms 151 ms Vienna-gw12.USA.net.DTAG.DE [62.156.131.190]
7 140 ms 150 ms 151 ms p4-1-1-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.9
.197]
8 140 ms 150 ms 151 ms ge-4-1.c00.stngva01.us.ah.vwh.net [129.250.27.18
4]
9 140 ms 151 ms 150 ms 161.58.156.173
10 150 ms 150 ms 151 ms vbforums.com [161.58.186.97]

Trace complete.
Jun 7th, 2002, 09:57 AM
parksie

Quote:

Originally posted by John
If you are going to put up the money for all these wonderful changes to MS software, then go ahead. Otherwise accept that we will continue to use free software as long as VB World is run as a free service by us.

Nothing wrong with free software anyway, plus I expect you get better support for Linux/MySQL/PHP..... ;)

Just out of interest, John, what's the technical spec of the server and how many sites are running off it?
Jun 7th, 2002, 10:48 AM
JoshT

I though John has two servers for us? :D
Jun 7th, 2002, 10:58 AM
parksie

As far as I knew, there were two (web and mysql), but they ran vbworld (and the forums), vbulletin.com, and vbulletin.org..... :eek:
Jun 7th, 2002, 06:40 PM
John

I think, too long since I last looked, approx 2 Dual P3-850, 1GB RAM, SCSI hard disks, one for DB, one for web server. Average about 400k pages per day, 250 people online most of the time. Load rarely gets high, particularly on the DB server.

John
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:59 PM
peet

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Pinging www.vbforums.com [161.58.186.97] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=233 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=233 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=233 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=233 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=233 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=233 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=233 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=233 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=233 Reply from 161.58.186.97: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=233 Ping statistics for 161.58.186.97: Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 140ms, Maximum = 141ms, Average = 140ms 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.1.254 2 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ti400720a080-l1.ti.telenor.net [80.212.160.0] 3 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms ti400720d050-ge6-0.ti.telenor.net [146.172.164.97] 4 20 ms 30 ms 30 ms ti400722c050-ge2-0.ti.telenor.net [146.172.222.33] 5 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ti400002c050-pos5-0.ti.telenor.net [146.172.252.198] 6 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms ti200002c050-pos4-0.ti.telenor.net [146.172.248.33] 7 30 ms 30 ms 40 ms ti200001c050-pos6-0.ti.telenor.net [146.172.248.10] 8 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms ti100001c050-pos9-0.ti.telenor.net [146.172.248.14] 9 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms ti100001b050-ge4-0.ti.telenor.net [146.172.248.62] 10 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms nb01b11-ge5-0.nb.telenor.net [217.70.229.33] 11 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms s-b3-pos8-0.telia.net [213.248.67.93] 12 40 ms 40 ms 30 ms s-bb2-pos1-2-0.telia.net [213.248.66.9] 13 40 ms 50 ms 41 ms kbn-bb2-pos0-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.41] 14 70 ms 70 ms 80 ms ldn-bb2-pos0-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.66] 15 70 ms 70 ms 80 ms 213.248.74.10 16 70 ms 70 ms 80 ms verio.telia.net [213.248.74.206] 17 141 ms 140 ms 140 ms p4-1-0-0.r80.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.181] 18 130 ms 141 ms 140 ms p16-0-1-3.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.170] 19 140 ms 151 ms 160 ms p16-5-0-0.r02.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.99] 20 140 ms 150 ms 151 ms p16-7-0-0.r01.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.20] 21 140 ms 150 ms 140 ms p16-3-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.74] 22 140 ms 140 ms 140 ms ge-4-1.c00.stngva01.us.ah.vwh.net [129.250.27.184] 23 140 ms 150 ms 140 ms 161.58.156.173 24 140 ms 150 ms 141 ms vbforums.com [161.58.186.97]