Jesus4u Thread Part Deux

since i couldnt reply in the other thread

here is continuation

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Originally posted by honeybee

So John also wrote a copy of bible? I only thought he was involved in writing the vBulletin code!!

:D:D:D

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perfect analogy :)

in 10 years from now
PHP will be history
ok ok if not 10, in 20
it will eventually be outdated :)
cus man wrote it

so John (take your pick) writes something, it will eventually come to an end

and not just john,
ANYONE

I really dont want to get into proving bible wrong
I have made many attempts at getting some of my "contridictions" answered, no one has
so which leads me to believe ..
ahh i am being drawn into this again

Jesus4u, respect to your beliefs, but your annoying :)

Everyone else, leave him alone, after all this thread is dedicated to him, he posts what ever from the bible he likes
did i mention that the bible he uses quotes from is inaccurate or contains contridictions until proven otherwize? :)

Inerrancy
Definition:
“When all the facts become known, they will demonstrate that the Bible in its original autographs and correctly interpreted is entirely true and never false in all it affirms, whether relative to doctrine or ethics or the social, physical or life sciences.” (P. D. Feinberg, s.v. “inerrancy, Evangelical Dictionary of Theology

Inerrancy: a theological deduction from inspiration.
Inerrancy: not demonstrable empirically because of:
Human finitude
Human sinfulness
lack of complete data
Inerrancy & the autographa.
Inerrancy applies to the autographa, not to copies or translations of Scripture. This qualification is made because we realize that errors have crept into the text during the transmission process. It is not an appeal to a “Bible which no one has ever seen or can see.” Such a charge fails to take into account the nature of textual criticism and the very high degree of certainty we possess concerning the original text of Scripture.

Inerrancy relates to hermeneutics.
The theologian must interpret the text properly in order to ascertain the truth of falsity of its assertions. Inerrancy also recognizes the analogy of faith and that apparent contradictions be harmonized if possible.

Inerrancy does not demand scientific precision.
The issue is, “Is the truth expressed accurate within accepted cultural norms when it was written?” It issue is not 20th century scientific accuracy. This is a point sometimes missed by defenders of inerrancy who try to establish that the Bible conforms to 20th century norms of precision. (see for example; Harold Lindsell, The Battle for the Bible)

Inerrancy: not a biblical term,
Inerrancy is not a biblical term, it is theological. Nonetheless this does not mean that it does not express a biblical truth. (cf. The term Trinity)

Arguments for Inerrancy
The Biblical argument:
Inerrancy is a necessary deduction from the Bible’s teaching concerning its inspiration.

The Historical argument:
Inerrancy has been the faith of the Church. It is recognized that inerrancy was often assumed rather than explicitly defended. However from its earliest days the Church’s use of Scripture has demonstrated an underlying commitment to inerrancy.

Inerrancy is a capstone rather than a foundational doctrine.
See Warfield, Inspiration and Authority, 210-211.

Inerrancy does not demand a “wooden literal” method of interpretation.
Inerrancy and Authorial Intent
Inerrancy is to be understood in terms of the Author’s intended meaning in the text which is discovered by historical, grammatical, theological interpretation.

Inerrancy and Truth
Inerrancy has to do with truth, simple truth, as opposed to absolute truth. (i.e. the philosophically absolute.)

Inerrancy means having AN ADVANCE COMMITMENT TO RECEIVE AS TRUTH FROM GOD ALL THAT SCRIPTURE IS FOUND ON INSPECTION ACTUALLY TO TEACH. J. I. Packer, “Hermeneutics and Biblical Authority,” Themelios, I (1975) p. 11.

The Legionier Statement on Inerrancy
We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the inspired and inerrant Word of God: We hold the Bible, as originally given through human agents of revelation to be infallible and see this a crucial article of faith with implication for the entire life and practice of all Christian people. With the great fathers of the Christian history we declare our confidence in the total trustworthiness of the Scriptures, urging that any view which impure to them a lesser degree of inerrancy than total, is in conflict with the Bible’s self-testimony in general and with the teaching of Jesus Christ in particular. Out of obedience to the Lord of The Church we submit ourselves unreservedly to his authoritative view of Holy Writ.

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Originally posted by honeybee

You say God demonstrates His own love towards us, so that means God loves us. Then you say Christ's sacrifice has ensured that God's wrath will not befall us although we are sinners. Doesn't that sound contradictory?

And why do you think we are justified because Christ died for us all? I would think his sacrifice was wasted, because the mankind does not seem to have improved much.

Also does it mean that now that Christ has sacrificed his own life for us, we are free to do anything, because we have already been justified?

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hmm, we are re-inventing the wheel
a big no no for programmers
i have asked that same question million times
if jesus died for us
then we can do what evar we like

*SLAPS HONEYBEE*

no sins for me