Abdul

Banning Abdul will accomplish nothing. Neither will tolerating him or his kind. Justice must be delievered to those who have committed this act, and all others like it.

To Abdul and those of his mindset...

Many Americans, and guests of America, have lost their life in this tragedy. But let it be known, they all died free and equitable citizens, treatment they would never have received under the Rule of Abdul or the Taliban.

The Pentagon will be repaired. The four World Trade Center buildings will be rebuilt. It is very likely that they will be bigger then before.

We will seek just and fair vengence, and we will be aided in that cause by every nation on this Earth save those who are guilty. We have support from great nations like the UK, and Isreal. We have support from the PLO and Jordan. We still have friends.

In the end I have to ask, what has this act of cowardice accomplished?

SO AGAIN, it comes to Policing other countries and making mad at each other.

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Originally posted by honeybee
But the time has come when US should stop funding countries like Pakistan merely out of political reasons. If, as the rumours go, the attack was really carried out by Bin Laden and ISI, it would mean the funds given by the US to Pakistan were used in this operation. How does it feel then?

I, as an Indian, hope the US government will now wake up and take really strict action against the terrorist nations like Pakistan.

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terrorist nations like pakistan??
pakistan has condemed the attacks, Bin Laden is an afghani, afghanistan should be denied funding...

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it is found that bin laden or another afghani is behind the attacks, if they are innocent, then why punish them??

Policing other countries doesn't bother me. For example, UN Weapons Inspectors in Iraq is necessary. I have no problems with dismantling the current nation of Iraq if they continue to refuse inspection and fight sanctions placed on them by the international community (read: Not just America).

As to what is happening in Pakistan. I need hard facts. I need to know who we are aiding and how. Maybe America shouldn't be directly involved in Pakistan. That may be true. Maybe America should force India to surrender Punjab. I don't know.

So who in relation to Pakistan thought they could accomplish anything by killing a few thousand American citizens?

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Originally posted by ghost ryder
If it is found that bin laden or another afghani is behind the attacks, if they are innocent, then why punish them??

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You need to rewrite this. It is riddled with pronouns with no clear antecedants.

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Originally posted by honeybee
Pakistan is funding the terrorist operations in India through ISI. Don't you forget the unrest in Punjab, J&K and the 1993 serial blasts in Mumbai.

It is not a co-incidence, that all accused in the serial blasts are Muslims, neither it is a blind act by our government. Also it is not a co-incidence that the Pakistan president Mr. Parvez Musharraf is a shameless lier. He lied at Agra summit that Pakistan did not shelter Dawood Ibrahim who masterminds every criminal act in Mumbai. A magazine in Pakistan, I think News Line, has carried photos and reports of how Dawood and his aide Chhota Shakeel live like kings in Pakistan.

That only leads any sensible person to conclude that Pakistan is a terrorist nation.

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So the US is funding Pakistan in their fight against India? Why?

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But the time has come when US should stop funding countries like Pakistan merely out of political reasons

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That would be giving the terrorists precisely what they want. Whether or not we should do that is completely irrelevant now; it comes down to giving in to the terrorists, and as soon as that happens, we'll see disasters that dwarf what happened yesterday. It is absolutely imperitive that the United States or anyone else do not comply with any terrorist demand.

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Originally posted by honeybee
Pakistan is funding the terrorist operations in India through ISI. Don't you forget the unrest in Punjab, J&K and the 1993 serial blasts in Mumbai.

It is not a co-incidence, that all accused in the serial blasts are Muslims, neither it is a blind act by our government. Also it is not a co-incidence that the Pakistan president Mr. Parvez Musharraf is a shameless lier. He lied at Agra summit that Pakistan did not shelter Dawood Ibrahim who masterminds every criminal act in Mumbai. A magazine in Pakistan, I think News Line, has carried photos and reports of how Dawood and his aide Chhota Shakeel live like kings in Pakistan.

That only leads any sensible person to conclude that Pakistan is a terrorist nation.

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Who make for frest atomic bomb, Pakistan or India?

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Originally posted by Conogelato
Who make for frest atomic bomb, Pakistan or India?

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Are you asking who made the first atomic bomb? That would be us, the United States.

Are you asking who made an atomic bomb first, Pakistan or India? I think that is India.

HB: I read all the posts in this thread in the school and it was making me sick!

Now I have time post my response:

How made the atomic bomb ffirst, India or Pakistan?
If you talk to any kashmiri civilian and ask where they want to Kashmir to be with, then they will say Pakistan. But India is a lier, it is saying that dozens of muslims that are killed are killed by muslims: MUSLIMS VS MUSLIMS when you have hindus killing muslims?
The main proof of killings by Indian army and police was that people found a grave in an India army place or a headquarter. And that is also making me sick that Indian army torchered those who found the graves and wanted to sign a paper saying that they did not find any grave in there!
If there will be no fight with India Army GANGS in Kashmir then the killing of people would increase about 10% more. Pakistan government is not giving even 1 ruppee to the mujahids. Only the good and islamic nation of Pakistan is giving funds to them and they are fighting against the Indian Army. Mujahids always claim responsibily for what they do but they say that they never kill civilians and why would they kill their own brothers, sisters?? India government is saying that they are ready for war because of no reason. America and Israel is funding India not Pakistan.

Hi
I think we should all write a letter to the Canadian Education Dept and get them to review their techniques for teaching English. Abdul and Kovan are both from Canada and while I try to understand what they say, most of it is garbled and nonsensical. Is the school system in Canada that bad? Are areas like grammar, spelling and writing optional? I know that Abdul is obviously not very smart but surely the whole system can't be that bad or can it?????

I am having good education in here. For English, I get more 85%.
I only do wrong spellings or wrong grammer when I am *typing* or sick of these people's words.

Other thing is that I don't reread my post for any spelling errors.

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Originally posted by beachbum
I know that Abdul is obviously not very smart

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And the award for this year's greatest understatement goes to.... Beachbum! Congrats, mate! :D

I think aknisely is Canadian, and he seems respectably literate - so it's not endemic.

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Originally posted by abdul
Other thing is that I don't reread my post for any spelling errors.

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You don't say... :rolleyes:

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I think aknisely is Canadian, and he seems respectably literate - so it's not endemic

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The hell it isn't. I'm the odd one out. Everyone in this damned country is stupid.;)

*cough* :)

Calgarians pardoned, of course.:)

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Originally posted by abdul
HB: I read all the posts in this thread in the school and it was making me sick!

Now I have time post my response:

How made the atomic bomb ffirst, India or Pakistan?
If you talk to any kashmiri civilian and ask where they want to Kashmir to be with, then they will say Pakistan. But India is a lier, it is saying that dozens of muslims that are killed are killed by muslims: MUSLIMS VS MUSLIMS when you have hindus killing muslims?
The main proof of killings by Indian army and police was that people found a grave in an India army place or a headquarter. And that is also making me sick that Indian army torchered those who found the graves and wanted to sign a paper saying that they did not find any grave in there!
If there will be no fight with India Army GANGS in Kashmir then the killing of people would increase about 10% more. Pakistan government is not giving even 1 ruppee to the mujahids. Only the good and islamic nation of Pakistan is giving funds to them and they are fighting against the Indian Army. Mujahids always claim responsibily for what they do but they say that they never kill civilians and why would they kill their own brothers, sisters?? India government is saying that they are ready for war because of no reason. America and Israel is funding India not Pakistan.

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You are an idiot. I would like to see any moderator prove me wrong. Forget the god damn religion!! Muslim, Hindu so what!! They live in Kashmir. Most indians dont care what religion their neighbour practices. HoneyBee can verify that. Your also saying that that Muslims have never killed muslims and never killed cilivians. Once again...all i am going to say is that you are an idiot, a dying breed thankfully, who will never me mourned. The faster you people die, the better the world will be.

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Originally posted by SurfDemon
*cough* :)

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I thought you were a well-travelled Scot...? :confused:

Abdul, I hope you don't intend to follow a career in trhe diplomatic service.:rolleyes:

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Originally posted by RSINGH
Abdul, I hope you don't intend to follow a career in trhe diplomatic service.:rolleyes:

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LOL as if someone of his intelligence could get any other job besides collecting garbage... thinking about it, that is being very disrespectful to garbage collectors. :eek: :p

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Originally posted by beachbum
LOL as if someone of his intelligence could get any other job besides collecting garbage... thinking about it, that is being very disrespectful to garbage collectors. :eek: :p

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Garbage producer, maybe? Or spreader? He's pretty good at that. :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by InvisibleDuncan
I thought you were a well-travelled Scot...? :confused:

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Well, I am, but I'm going for my Canadian citizenship soon (Dual with Britain).... so I figured I'd better stand up for the country. :D

SD

Might as well. There ain't much to stand up for, I'm afraid :(

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Originally posted by honeybee


The situation in Kashmir has reached such gravity that both the sides are commiting violence. We have had reports where the armymen say that they can't trust anyone in Kashmir. While patrolling the area, you see a window open, an old man peeps out, then goes inside. You walk on. The next moment a grenade explodes and you are gone. What do you say about that?

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Mujahids are fighting, AND the Indian Army is committing violence. Have you concentrated on the news saying that about 20 Kashmiri civilians were found dead, buried, in an Army camp? And is that a punishment when you get/steel some body parts of a Kashmiri civilian after he dies with your *evil* torture? Jihad only started in Kashmir after 1989. Why? Because the Indian Army was "loving" the Kashmiri so much that they wanted to coalesce with Pakistan.

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And the issue of Kashmir has been alive right since the independance of Pakistan. The King of Kashmir, Maharaja Hari Singh agreed to join India just because the Pakistani forces started invading Kashmir under the guise of tribals. In the war that followed, many dead bodies were found to be officers serving in the Pakistani military. Are you omitting these facts out or are you not aware of them?

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I am aware of that, and we want Kashmir back because we don’t want the Kashmiri Muslims to be like the Indian Muslims(Almost all of them have no right of freedom).

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Why are the Muslim leaders and the Muslim parties opposing the chanting of Vande Mataram in the schools? Why are students asking for leave from lectures for Namaaz? And that's all of a sudden, not that right from the beginning they were against it.
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Because vede Mataram sucks:D (I don't know who he is but just curious that why would you pray to an Idol that you made yourself?) And they leave for prayer because they are THAT religious.
And what about the burning of the mosques in India?

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That's exactly the point. The Pakistani people have no business funding militant activities across the border. The Kashmir issue should be resolved at the government level and not through militancy. This funding and the militant acts prove that they have no respect for the sovereign India. They are invading another country.
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That is why more than half of the century is passed and India's dream of Invading Pakistan is growing - other than talking about Kashmir. You know what Vajepai was saying before the Agra Summit? He was going to talk about getting Azad Kashmir back. Damn stupid! That is why this mahawara is true:

Laton kay booht baton sey nahin manty

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A few questions/observations:

1. Isn't it Ironic that it seems like the 'World' is now at war since poor America got hit ? (and no, I don't condone it, but put it in context of global terrorism Per-leeease !!!!)

2. Who mentioned Pakistan ? Oh, Honeybee, and, oh, surprise Honeybee's Indian...

3. Do we not know when to recognise immature rhetoric ? However bad the grammar ?

It amuses me, this kid of crap, who are terrorists ?, where do they learn to hate ? My guess is, by the strength of the ignorance, arrogance, sheer immaturity & mis-placed Nationalisim within this thread, they learn their hatred & dogma in conversations like this.

Next thing you guys will be telling me your religious....Religions that require us to love one another...ha har har har har......