-=Aliens=-

**Emo** · May 1st, 2001, 11:47 AM

Do you believe in aliens?
I certainly do, because don't you think there is a tiny possibility that there is this one planet that there is some kind of life form on it? I mean come on, there are more than enough planets in this galaxy to provide a living environment... can you imagine how many more galaxies there are?

-Emo

**CiberTHuG** · May 1st, 2001, 11:54 AM

Wow, Emo, I thought my grammar was off today.

Anyway... I think this is a Clarke quote, though it may be Sagan. And if someone can find the exact quote that would be great.

There is life out there, or there is not. Either reality is mind boggling.

**Active** · May 1st, 2001, 12:44 PM

There must be somewhere on the Universe where an Intelligent
form(May be biological/Non-biological) exist. But the chance that
they could ever see planet earth and it's SUN is infinitesimal.

**PJB** · May 1st, 2001, 12:48 PM

I believe there is cause on South Park they put a probe in Cartman's butt

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 01:08 PM

I might be one, we all might be

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 01:55 PM

shut up

**Emo** · May 1st, 2001, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by CiberTHuG
Wow, Emo, I thought my grammar was off today.

Well, what can I say... For one, I've only known English for about 4 years (Today it's exactly 4

)
And secondly, I wrote this when I was in school and I was in a hurry...

P.S. Kedaman, Congratulations for your 5000 Posts!
-Emo

**PJB** · May 1st, 2001, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Emo

Well, what can I say... For one, I've only known English for about 4 years (Today it's exactly 4 )
And secondly, I wrote this when I was in school and I was in a hurry...

P.S. Kedaman, Congratulations for your 5000 Posts!
-Emo

congrats Kedeman

and congrat's for everyone speaking(typing) better English than I

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 02:13 PM

that was neither a statement nor an advice CiberTHuG, stay away.

thanks pjb and emo

**Pix** · May 1st, 2001, 02:18 PM

Yep I believe they're out there somewhere

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 02:48 PM

how am i suppose to take you seriously then, you seriously have some social problems. I won't discuss anything with you until you learn some ethics. that is final

**PJB** · May 1st, 2001, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by CiberTHuG

The chances of that happening are probably half as good as my chances of being attacked by a Great White shark, while being struck by lighting, after a plane crash that was taking me to claim my winnings in the Virginia State Lottery!

happened to me once, wait, that wasn't me...

**CiberTHuG** · May 1st, 2001, 03:28 PM

My nieghbor won the lottery. Won 7.2Million.

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 03:35 PM

Yes i was serious, but i was also inteding to be ambigous:
1. Life is conceptually alien to the physical dead matter.
2. We as a species are alien to the other on this planet.
3. We are colonists
I agree might is a vague word, but i don't agree using it is considered "silly", but instead wise. Especially when i use it in a tripple quiz.

Next, who are we to judge what is more likely, when our knowledge is limited.

Finally, A might-statement is open minded, showing no ignorance, and has a intellectual aspect deeper than you ever can imagine.

**chrisjk** · May 1st, 2001, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by CiberTHuG
My nieghbor won the lottery. Won 7.2Million.

I bet he's not your neighbour anymore. Now lives in a country estate with 15 MPV's and several Land Rovers.

**barrk** · May 1st, 2001, 03:39 PM

Relax, Ked. I don't think he meant you any disrespect....he was only kidding. I took your answer as a light-hearted statement and he took it a little further is all. Let's not let it bring us all down!

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 03:44 PM

i find it relaxing katie, don't worry

I bring a lot in my words but i don't care if nobody don't care to understand me, but it's quite fun if someone does. here's a bunch of smilies for you

**barrk** · May 1st, 2001, 03:51 PM

Thanks!

**CiberTHuG** · May 1st, 2001, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by chrisjk
I bet he's not your neighbour anymore. Now lives in a country estate with 15 MPV's and several Land Rovers.

Amazingly, he is pretty down to earth. He still buys used cars for himself (he did buy both of his daughters a new Volvo). He owned a lake house and a house in town before he won. He sold the house in town and moved to the lake. Other than that, he gives a big pig pickin every fall for all his family and friends and friends friends and the neighborhood.

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 04:31 PM

You can't classify Life that easily Ciberthug, you make a big mistake if you do because it brings aspects of uncountable abstract concepts. If you pick one, i can pick another. I'm not pleased to take advantage of this model, we are arguing in a language that lacks precision, and i can't do anything about it.

Alien is a very ambigous word, i am paying attention to the thread marginal, #3 mainly, but static threads are boring, aren't they? Now here you misunderstood mariginally bending from the topic at #3

I am aware of the evolution model and our inheritance, but i was refering to how we distinguish from the rest, not the similarities. You are bending the paper, not me.

You should know that none of your arguments are supported, but should you care to discuss further, you need to distinguish between proof and statistics, models and reality. You're basically missunderstanding each concept i bring in your favour to construct an illusion that your argumentation invalidates mine, but that won't work with me as you can see.

**Kzin** · May 1st, 2001, 04:31 PM

Fittingly enough for this forum Bill Gate's is already looking for them with SETI

XP with ET technology

Coincidentally if you've ever read Niven's "Tales of Known Space" Kzin are the cats who wait to hear SETI type messages which are a sign that whoever is sending them is ripe for capture/slavery/hunting/eating

On the basis that if you are sending radio messages you are saying that "here is a habitable planet which is moderately smart/industrialised/populous but not too advanced or paranoid or alien"

**CiberTHuG** · May 1st, 2001, 04:43 PM

Emo, I thought you might enjoy this:

"Where Are They?" by Ian Crawford

**Pix** · May 1st, 2001, 05:02 PM

Poor Kedaman

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 05:04 PM

don't worry pix

i'll handle him

Jethro · May 1st, 2001, 05:08 PM

Go to your rooms Cyber and kedaman, and keep your hands where we can see them. Chill out guys.

Anyway back to the thread............

Read an article a while ago by this guy who claimed that Spiders orignated as aliens who had landed on earth in the dim dark past as germs or something. He gave credence to this arguement by saying that arachnaphobia is a genetic trait that comes from recognising this fact. Weird but true

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 05:16 PM

pick the freaking dictionary and look up both alien and life yourself.
Why do we have all the litterature hanging around in our libraries, well certainly because people with respect for knowledge should enter them.
You are loosing the ethical mariginal to which we agreed to have a decent argumentation, i therefore commend you skip personal assults and REPHRASE and apologize, otherways i don't see any point in continuing this conversation.

Until then i won't comment.

**Emo** · May 1st, 2001, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by CiberTHuG
Emo, I thought you might enjoy this:

"Where Are They?" by Ian Crawford

Thanks a lot! That is quite interesting...

-Emo

**Emo** · May 1st, 2001, 05:27 PM

This is so freaky!!!

ORLANDO -- A very large dark UFO with two red lights hovered over the Deseret Ranch, just east of the city on Thursday night, March 28, 2001. According to the eyewitness, "I observed two slow-flying red lights that appeared to be hundreds of yards away, just above the tree line. The two red lights were moving very slowly from east to west." The lights moved in a very exacting detail, as if they were connected to each other, which would have made it one extremely big object if we could have seen the superstructure." " The object made no sound as it passed. This was observed at the Deseret Ranch, just east of the Orlando International Airport." The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints, also known as the Mormons owns the ranch. A new Mormon Temple is being built. Thanks to Rev. Billy Dee

The the best part is that my house is right by the Airport! Oh well, I didn't see anything...

-Emo

**CiberTHuG** · May 1st, 2001, 05:30 PM

Yeah, Emo, I liked it, even though it does kind of kill the romantic possiblity. I read that article last year on vacation, and it has stuck with me. There was another article in that same issue that was interesting. If that type of colonization is going on near us, it should make enough noise for us to hear it.

There is also an interesting article in an old Analog that goes on about finding evidence of past visitation. I think it is called "Epislon Bootes Revisited."

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 05:31 PM

I was right, you have social problems.

Jethro · May 1st, 2001, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by kedaman
I was right, you have social problems.

Play nice Boys, or l will have to take your keyboards away from you.

Emo

How come there are never any decent photos of UFOs, or other evidence. Just the usual eye witness accounts and storys of abductees....who all seem to be Americans of somewhat unstable character. May be wrong in that but it is the perception down under.

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 06:03 PM

Jethro:

**Emo** · May 1st, 2001, 06:21 PM

Jethro
I don't know about photos, but once I saw a program about Extraterrestrial Life on TV and how it came here years ago and made all these signs that it did... like the pyramids in Egypt and the pyramids in Mexico (the Mayan Civilization).

Also, I'm not sure where it was, but they were showing those Huge figures carved into the Earth of some "people-looking alike" creatures and it said that it was so many thousands of years old. And they proved humans didn't do it, because the lines were so straight, that it was impossible for people at that time to make. It was only possible to make such a line with a flying object (They didn't have airplanes obviously). I'll try to find a picture of what I'm talking about!

Also, there was this temple made. Again, I forgot the place, but they said that the only way for them to cut the stones so perfectly straight was with a laser! And this temple is thousands of years old!

-Emo

Jethro · May 1st, 2001, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Emo
Jethro
I don't know about photos, but once I saw a program about Extraterrestrial Life on TV and how it came here years ago and made all these signs that it did... like the pyramids in Egypt and the pyramids in Mexico (the Mayan Civilization).

Also, I'm not sure where it was, but they were showing those Huge figures carved into the Earth of some "people-looking alike" creatures and it said that it was so many thousands of years old. And they proved humans didn't do it, because the lines were so straight, that it was impossible for people at that time to make. It was only possible to make such a line with a flying object (They didn't have airplanes obviously). I'll try to find a picture of what I'm talking about!

Also, there was this temple made. Again, I forgot the place, but they said that the only way for them to cut the stones so perfectly straight was with a laser! And this temple is thousands of years old!

-Emo

Good to "Chariots of the Gods" theories still abound. The fact that an ancient civilisation could construct something like the Pyramids without modern man understanding how they did it does not prove they didn't do it, or Alien intervention.

All

That Face on Mars is pretty freaky. Have an articule about it somewhere will find and post.

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 08:29 PM

As a side issue, Offending people gives you a bad image, also rendering you unworthy in a decent argumentation. I am able to support my arguments but there'e no pride in teaching a childish man a lesson.
Go on and offend people, i won't mind but don't expect me to take you seriously anymore.

**kedaman** · May 1st, 2001, 09:47 PM

Don't make me list all your insults. This is not your argument, you quoted me and i gave you the right to confront me in a decent argument, you failed and i had to suspended it and you should now leave. If you continue to offend people i should ask John to bann you.

**Emo** · May 1st, 2001, 10:23 PM

If you continue to offend people i should ask John to bann you.

Woah,

I didn't expect it to go this far! I won't take any sides here, but I don't see a point of going on with this... You both have different aspects on the subject and let's leave it like that. I'll delete this thread if this continues...

-Emo

**HarryW** · May 1st, 2001, 11:43 PM

CiberTHuG, why are you making such a big deal out of this? What's the big problem? Kedaman has a right, just like everyone else, to his opinions, so long as they don't interfere with other people negatively. Apart from that, from the ways you have quoted him I can see that you are reading some if what he's said in ways that are different to what he intended. Perhaps you would like to try explaining your thoughts on this to Kedaman in Finnish?

Insulting people with no provokation doesn't endear you to anyone, you're just being awkward for no good reason. If you want an argument, just say so. You'll more than likely get one.

**Beacon** · May 2nd, 2001, 01:08 AM

ok sunshine!(cyberthug)

In 1 of your posts you reference the word "use" which doesn't make any sense at all!
Your sentence was:
"Maybe you are too small minded, but this world is humming right along and the rest of USE understand it perfectly. "

I don't understand how can i "use understand" probably be better saying "you people"!

Definition of MIGHT!

1)Used to indicate a condition or state contrary to fact: She might help if she knew the truth.
2) Used to indicate a possibility or probability that is weaker than may: We might discover a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
3) Used to express possibility or probability or permission in the past: She told him yesterday he might not go on the trip.
4) Used to express a higher degree of deference or politeness than may, ought, or should: Might I express my opinion?

I would think that Kedaman was in support of number 3! He was expressing the possibility of us bieng aliens!

And the dictionary fails to register "extra-terran" as a word!

And Also on Aliens:

cyberthug: What are you saying " Aliens Don't Exist?"

maybe a better sentence would be " Aliens Might Not Exist"
Why?
Because until you have proof of them not existing they still MIGHT!
Now, we don't have evidence that they do or don't exist!
But if we took your stance there earth would still be flat!

Quote from you again:
"That's Occam's Razor. You don't have to know the answer, or have proof, you just have to look at which one makes more sense. It won't prove anything, but it makes for a good day at the track."

Kedaman makes more sense to me! You seem to be talking crap!

Here's Some More information for you:

Alien:
Alien adj 1: not contained in or deriving from the essential nature of something; "an economic theory alien to the spirit of capitalism"; "the mysticism so foreign to the French mind and temper"; "jealousy is foreign to her nature" [syn: foreign] 2: being or from or characteristic of another place or part of the world; "alien customs"; "exotic plants in a greenhouse"; "moved to a strange country" [syn: exotic, strange] n 1: a person who comes from a foreign country; someone who does not owe allegiance to your country [syn: foreigner, noncitizen, outlander] [ant: citizen] 2: anyone who does not belong in the environment in which they are found [syn: stranger, unknown] 3: a form of life assumed to exist outside the Earth or its atmosphere [syn: extraterrestrial being, extraterrestrial] v : arouse enmity or indifference in where there had formerly been love, affection, or friendliness [syn: estrange, alienate, disaffect]

Last One Now study this one!
JOKE:

Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.

**Beacon** · May 2nd, 2001, 01:17 AM

Already got it:

"there" instead of "the"! in my reply.

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