is there any smokers out there????

Benson & Hedges extra mild approx 20-25 per day depending on stress levels.

[Gen-X]

Well just to fly into the wind


I have never smoked a cigarette in my life (other than a few drags at age 22 just in case someone accused me of not knowing what I was missing)... despite a father who smoked both pipe and cigarettes.

Never saw a need to, nor felt the urge, nor suffered peer pressure (I think peer pressure is an illusion btw).

[SloBurn]

The thing is I don't smoke but I do like having the odd joint or bong on the weekend.

Flyer, your a medic student why do you smoke?? You should know all the bad effects of smokes.

If smoking did'nt give you cancer I would start smoking straight away cause smoking looks cool.

if you moderate how much you smoke it probably wont give you cancer....

Mih_Flyer is gonna die before he is 40... hehe, but thats really not funny.

even though I know the bad effects of eyes looking at a crappy moniter for 13 hours a day, I still do it... the same as all of you... so.. dont ask stupid questions
hehe

[Mih_Flyer]

denniswrenn you are a sad bad man, hehehe, atleast i will die and i can see my mom or father saying "Please do not die" but you will die BLIND, you won't see any **** before you die,, poor guy
just kidding
ok, i'm a medical student and i know what smoking does in the body, it F U C K S the body up, its causes cancer, no good sex, dry throat all the time, black lips, lung problems, peptic alcers, its also does something with eyes, and many mnay many bad stuff i don't remember now, but the problem is, I CAN NOT QUIT, any body has any idea so i can quit this ****?????

[Gen-X]

SloBurn

I read a report somewhere (don't ask because I cannot remember) that said you get more TAR and carcinogenics from smoking pot than you do from cigarettes.

Everyone

Nothing "causes" cancer as far as I know... things like carcinogenics might increase the risk of getting cancer but they don't specifically CAUSE it.

I have known people that haven't touched a cigarette or anything BAD in their life and STILL got cancer... and I have known people that smoked like a train ALL their life and didn't.

I think what this means is that cancer is present in cells and that certain things might increase the chance of it turning into full blown cancer but it doesn't cause it.

Mih_Flyer

Oh do I have a cure for smoking for you... I guarantee that if you do this properly you wont smoke another cigarette again for the rest of your life.

Basically you are now in a stage that is habitual. This means you have neural pathways ingrained with the engrams for smoking. There are actually *2* engrams that smoking produces...

1. The craving for nicotine (Primary)
2. The habit of having something in your mouth (Secondary)

Ever notice how those people who give up smoking take up chewing gum, chewing the end of pens, must always hold something in their hand or generally feel like they are "missing" something? This is due to the second one.

Whenever you put something in your hands or in your mouth like you would a cigarette the triggering of this neural pathway automatically triggers the Primary which begins your craving for nicotine.

You have to remember that in your brain there are 2 friggen massively wide pathways that get traversed whenever the urge to smoke takes you (these can be triggered by anything from "seeing" someone else smoking to smelling it yourself or even remembering what it was like).

If you want to quit smoking you need to BREAK those engrams, you need to reduce this pathway so that it isn't so easy to traverse... the easiest way to do that is what is called aversion therapy.

So here is the cure :

1. Take one large jar with lid (large pickle jar should do)
2. When you finish a cigarette put the butt in the jar
3. When there are 10 butts in the jar add 200ml of water
4. Close the lid
5. Keep adding cigarette butts

Now... Once the jar looks absolutely digusting and black, keep it sealed and whenver you have the urge to smoke, open the lid and take a BIG and LONG smell of the contents of the jar. It will smell putrid. Now HAVE your cigarette. (Don't forget... you MUST have the cigarette afterwards).

Keep doing this over and over again.

What you are doing is building up a NEW engram that begins to associate the craving for nicotine with the disgusting and repugnant smell of rotting and burnt tobacco.

At some point in your future whenever you crave nocotine it will immediately trigger the aversion engram and thus cancel it out.

Give it a try ;-)

Will try immediatly !!!!!!! Thanks Dude

[SloBurn]

Oh ****, same thoughts as Flyer, well at least I'm gonna die on a high..

after reading this I feel like having a chuck.

[Iain17]

I remember i started a very similar topic a while ago. I was an addicted member then as well.

Unfortunatley i still am. I realised that until i want to give up, all the will power and nicotine replacement theropy in the world isn't going to make me quit.

BTW i smoke benny hedgehogs. 15 a day, unless i am down the pub, in which case it can easily reach 30-40.

[joey o.]

I smoke.I will be quitting permenently soon: when I die of cancer.

[Mih_Flyer]

thanx alot Gen-X, I will give it a try and see, i'v tried many things to quit smoking but i couldn't, and what said about the cancer it's 100% right, smoking doesn't cause cancer, but it increases the risk of gitting it, any way thanx alot

[noone]

Someone who smokes a joint a day gets more tar and crap then someone who smokes a pack a day, I belive it goes something like that. It has to do with the fact that when you smoke weed you hold it in your lungs longer too.

[Mih_Flyer]

noone's post is 100% right, I remember that i did study this thing before, and that's right, joints are more dangerous, but they are more ???? at the same time.
BTW, any one of you get high????

[noone]

Well I've experimented, but youthful indiscretion?
Last time was in April.

[SloBurn]

I said I only boil the bong on the weekends..If I did the stuff everyday I be out of a F**king job!!! Okay I'm gonna do less airplanes.

Totally Doped