Defrag Cleaner

**Digi Programmer** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 06:10 AM

Allright m8s how are you all doing, Fine i hope. What i want to know is does anyone know were i can download a free Defrag Cleaner. I run Windows 98 se.

Best and Kind Regards

Take Care all of you

**Pc_Madness** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 06:12 AM

Whats wrong with the one on Windows?

**Digi Programmer** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 06:39 AM

I cant seem to get it working. Every time i try and Defrag my computer the screen goes white and the percentages go from 0% to 2% then back to 0% any ideas what could be the problem any help or information would be a big help thanks for your time and help it is very much appreciated.

Best Regards

Take Care

**Pc_Madness** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 06:42 AM

You can't be doing anything while running Defrag.

Say you start the Defrag, then deciede to go and play a game of solitaire, you've gone and changed the harddrive by opening the program, so Defrag has to recheck everything again.

**vfluckey** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 08:07 AM

You also need to shutdown everything except the programs that windows needs to run. anything else can make it restart.

**msimmons** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 09:42 AM

The trick used to be to ctrl+alt+del everything except for Explorer & systray. This no longer works for me as I cannot get past 7%. I think Norton has a problem even though it claims to not be running. Since these companies want to be so in control and remove themselves from the ctrl+alt+del menu I plan to defrag the best way I know how. I am burning all my data to CD's now and am going to wipe the whole hard drive.

Michael

**Rick Bull** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 10:43 AM

If you go into safe mode it shouldn't run too many unessacary apps should it? I assume it's fine to defrag from there?

**msimmons** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Rick Bull
If you go into safe mode it shouldn't run too many unessacary apps should it? I assume it's fine to defrag from there?

I tried that and had the same problem. Not sure what program is doing it but something is accessing the hard drive and writing to it so windows is all "darn it I have to start over!"
Michael

**Rick Bull** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 01:02 PM

Wouldn't be caused by a bad sector or somethingon the HDD would it? Have you tried doing a thorough scan disk?

**msimmons** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Rick Bull
Wouldn't be caused by a bad sector or somethingon the HDD would it? Have you tried doing a thorough scan disk?

Yes, ScannDisk runs fine (both via DOS & Windows)
Michael

**Rick Bull** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 03:00 PM

Have you run msconfig and stopped all apps from loading at start-up? I can't remember whether I've already asked you that

**msimmons** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 03:03 PM

no i didn't do that... I guess I should have but I figured if it was in there that booting in safe mode would have been the same thing... which I did try to no avail.
Michael

**Celest** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 04:23 PM

I am suprised to see that nobody has mentioned that you must turn off your screensaver. Ctrl-alt-del everything except Explorer and Systray and make sure your screensaver is set to None. Go to bed and wake up in the morning with a lovely fresh PC

**msimmons** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 04:25 PM

I didn't think of that cos I keep mine off anyway but on that note make sure your harddrives arn't set to shut down either

Michael

**Pc_Madness** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Celest
I am suprised to see that nobody has mentioned that you must turn off your screensaver. Ctrl-alt-del everything except Explorer and Systray and make sure your screensaver is set to None. Go to bed and wake up in the morning with a lovely fresh PC

Defraging doesn't seem to make that much of a difference.

**Guv** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 08:54 PM

I use a utility called Enditall to shut down all but the essential programs before running degrag or installing software.

I think I downloaded it from the PC magazine site or from download.com It has solved some problems from me.

www.zdnet.com
www.download.com.com

**JoshT** · Sep 23rd, 2002, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Pc_Madness
Defraging doesn't seem to make that much of a difference.

Actually, if the File System was well designed, it should be able to handle fragmentation. I hardly ever defrag a NTFS disk and have never heard of a defragger for Linux.

**msimmons** · Sep 24th, 2002, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by Pc_Madness
Defraging doesn't seem to make that much of a difference.

Nothing beats a good ol fashioned format

I just finished backing up all my non replaceable data and will be doing it myself soon (cos I swapped motherboards and Windows just dosent like that, I did a overwrite but she was never the same after that). I think I'm going to put on Win2K and see how I like that.
Michael

**nabeels786** · Sep 24th, 2002, 04:15 PM

run it in safe mode, that works better

**siyan** · Sep 24th, 2002, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by JoshT
Actually, if the File System was well designed, it should be able to handle fragmentation. I hardly ever defrag a NTFS disk and have never heard of a defragger for Linux.

I once had 48% file fragmentation on a NTFS disk (30GB, about 18 used). Man that was slow....Warcraft 3 would be ultra choppy.

Try Norton SpeedDisk (non NT) for this...

-C

**parksie** · Sep 24th, 2002, 06:14 PM

On NTFS, the main problem is the MFT getting fragmented, but this is simple to rectify at boot-time using Diskeeper.

No, I haven't heard much about defragmentation for Linux. At least, ext2 partitions.

**DiGiTaIErRoR** · Sep 24th, 2002, 06:52 PM

Can't get defrag working. Lol.

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