thanks for your response, the top menu created in design mode is mnuTCategories,
In the submenu mnuTCategory, i added one item mnuTCategory(0) at design time and the rest loaded at runtime .
so in total mnuTCategory contacts 3 menus. but i cannot unload any of them at runtime

what am doing is removing all and reloading another set of items, but it wont allow me to do that