Big new technological advancements ?

[SJWhiteley]

with the advent of wifi, some of the posters probably posted their ideas FROM the toilet.

Next Survey Incoming? Who uses their wifi device on the can?

[baja_yu]

Next Survey Incoming? Who uses their wifi device on the can?

Why else would someone buy a wifi router?

[Niya]

Why else would someone buy a wifi router?

LOL good comeback rofl

[namrekka]

Who uses their wifi device on the can?

Huh....to put the results on Face Book?

[thebuffalo]

Back to the serious side of this thread... IPv? Address', what is next? I've been hearing a lot lately that there will be a new type of IP Address, anybody have info on this? I feel like this is a big technological advancement and is going to lead to a lot of good but probably more bad things. I can't find anything on google, except for my local news story. Is this just going to be a global IPv6 switch?

http://baynews9.com/content/news/bay...not_quite.html

[SJWhiteley]

Back to the serious side of this thread... IPv? Address', what is next? I've been hearing a lot lately that there will be a new type of IP Address, anybody have info on this? I feel like this is a big technological advancement and is going to lead to a lot of good but probably more bad things. I can't find anything on google, except for my local news story. Is this just going to be a global IPv6 switch?

http://baynews9.com/content/news/bay...not_quite.html

Try remembering an IPv6 number...but I don't really see it as a 'big new technological advancement': what kind of 'good' things or 'bad things' can you envision? I haven't seen anything in the protocol spec that allows it to do anything IPv4 could do.

[baja_yu]

It's not about what it can "do", it's about IPv4 running out of available addresses. We are coming to a point where we have more devices than there are addresses. IPv6 was designed to address that.

[thebuffalo]

Try remembering an IPv6 number...but I don't really see it as a 'big new technological advancement': what kind of 'good' things or 'bad things' can you envision? I haven't seen anything in the protocol spec that allows it to do anything IPv4 could do.

We've been using IPv6 addresses for like... 8-10 years.. thats what this is showing up on my TV in the morning for? Everyone else is finally starting to use them? They are so much harder to remember

And as far as I'm sure, I don't believe that many devices currently made can handle using an IPv6 Address, phone companies 5 years ago weren't saying "hey, remember to be sure they work with IPv6!". I still use a G2, so phones that old are still in use!
Does OnStar use IP addresses for their devices? I sure would hate to buy a 2007 Escalade and not be able to setup my OnStar because GM/OnStar didnt make sure they worked with IPv6. Is 12.123.12.123 as an IPv4, doesn't it have an IPv6 value already? Kind of like abc1:23::ab1:23ab?

[Shaggy Hiker]

You surf based on IP address? If not, why are you remembering them?

[thebuffalo]

You surf based on IP address? If not, why are you remembering them?

Work IP's, we have like 20 different static IP's, possibly more, I only know of 20 though.

[Lord Orwell]

Back to the serious side of this thread... IPv? Address', what is next? I've been hearing a lot lately that there will be a new type of IP Address, anybody have info on this? I feel like this is a big technological advancement and is going to lead to a lot of good but probably more bad things. I can't find anything on google, except for my local news story. Is this just going to be a global IPv6 switch?

http://baynews9.com/content/news/bay...not_quite.html

ipv6 is now active. I believe monday was the rollout day.

[baja_yu]

Work IP's, we have like 20 different static IP's, possibly more, I only know of 20 though.

Pen and paper? A text file? Those can help, if you actually have to type those in 10 times a day.

It's appearing on your TV because several major companies and ISPs are making a switch to IPv6. Well, not really a switch. The new system runs in parallel and since the new system is not backwards compatible, there are systems in place for establishing communication between the two. So if you're on v6, you can still access stuff on v4. The point is to make a bigger push to try and eventually phase out the v4.

[dilettante]

Work IP's, we have like 20 different static IP's, possibly more, I only know of 20 though.

Part of the reason people have to memorize these static IPs in the workplace is because networks are managed by entirely out of control box jockeys.

There is almost always WINS, in house DNS, etc. to let you get to these machines by name but to make their own lives easier these tend to be given "inventory tag" names that are considerably more clumsy to remember than an IP(v4) address!

Examples:

S123A536HH5273Z234
KK000234V61DK456


I've seen this in shop after shop. The problem is really due to the cluelessness of management, and it results in all kinds of unnecessary horrors beyond this as well.

While you want to avoid periods in host names because it interferes with DNS, you can still build DNS-like hierarchies using hyphens or even underscores when desired. One shop I know of does this, but the results can get ugly there as well:

MET1-WEBPUB-13
MET1-DMZDB-3

Those two machines are on their "metropolitan network 1" and one is a public-facing web server (#13), the other a DMZ database server (#3). An advantage is that they can rework networks quite a bit and be free to change IP addresses and network numbers.

But even this breaks down and can result in cascading software configuration maintenance if a machine must be renamed to fit radical network changes.


Part of the reason this problem even exists is that when TCP/IP was designed the world was still host based, with a small number of hosts users accessed through non-IP terminals. There were never supposed to be that many hosts to worry about, so you could give them names such as colors, names from mythology, old girlfriends, whatever.

[SJWhiteley]

You surf based on IP address? If not, why are you remembering them?

IP addresses aren't just used on the internet.

But that's the point - the internet addresses map to user friendly names which we use for browsing. So, really, what does IPv6 really bring to the table over IPv4?

[thebuffalo]

IP addresses aren't just used on the internet.

But that's the point - the internet addresses map to user friendly names which we use for browsing. So, really, what does IPv6 really bring to the table over IPv4?

A bunch of numbers and letters.

[baja_yu]

IP addresses aren't just used on the internet.

But that's the point - the internet addresses map to user friendly names which we use for browsing. So, really, what does IPv6 really bring to the table over IPv4?

IP addresses are used by all connected devices, not just those hosting websites. In fact, a lot of different websites can and are hosted on one server, technically linking to the same IP address. The number of available IP addresses in IPv4 is running out because there are only so many combinations you can make in a 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255 range. IPv6 brings LOADS more addresses.

[thebuffalo]

IP addresses are used by all connected devices, not just those hosting websites. In fact, a lot of different websites can and are hosted on one server, technically linking to the same IP address. The number of available IP addresses in IPv4 is running out because there are only so many combinations you can make in a 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255 range. IPv6 brings LOADS more addresses.

And the possibility for custom IP's!

1337:N00b::34T3R:4LYF

[Shaggy Hiker]

there are only so many combinations you can make in a 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255 range.

Yeah, 2^32, to be exact. A pathetically small number for the web these days.

[CVMichael]

Actually it's 2^30 since IPs that start with 10 and 192 are used for local networks. I am not sure about IPs that start with 127, or 0. Are there public IPs that start with 127 or 0?

[baja_yu]

Actually it's 2^30 since IPs that start with 10 and 192 are used for local networks. I am not sure about IPs that start with 127, or 0. Are there public IPs that start with 127 or 0?

This seems to be a list of all special-use addresses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve...IPv4_addresses

[CVMichael]

So...

2^32 = 4,294,967,296 - 592,708,608 = 3,702,258,688 IPs available

[Shaggy Hiker]

I'm amazed that we made it this long.

[thebuffalo]

I'm amazed that we made it this long.

I got them off of the toilet talk. Talent.

[dilettante]

I was replying to someone. But uhh... what does "poop" have to do with technological advancements? xD... Poo hijacked this thread!

Ahh, could have sworn it said scatalogical advancements.

[Icyculyr]

Ahh, could have sworn it said scatalogical advancements.

I assure you it did not, and still does not

[Lord Orwell]

i am not sure about some of the numbers, but i can tell you that 0 is not used and 255 is used for broadcasting to every address in that subnet.

[Icyculyr]

MacBook Pro with Retina display

Bring on the super high resolution displays! (I'm wanting a 27 inch 5120x2880 display btw.)

[SJWhiteley]

MacBook Pro with Retina display

Bring on the super high resolution displays! (I'm wanting a 27 inch 5120x2880 display btw.)

I was wondering when the new macbook would make a showing...

[baja_yu]

Hmm... a full speced new MBP for $3800 (plus tax), or a car? I can't decide yet

[thebuffalo]

Hmm... a full speced new MBP for $3800 (plus tax), or a car? I can't decide yet

I could rebuild my weekend warrior, and pay for my NBA finals tickets with that.

[FunkyDexter]

Meh, I didn't really need that new heart transplant anyway.

[techgnome]

Meh, I didn't really need that new heart transplant anyway.

Given some of the posts I've seen around here... that's far safer than a pacemaker...


-tg

[Icyculyr]

Hmm... a full speced new MBP for $3800 (plus tax), or a car? I can't decide yet

The SSD will go faster

[EntityX]

When I saw this article I immediately thought of this thread.

New toilet technology after 150 years of waste

The United Nations estimates disease caused by unsafe sanitation results in about half the hospitalizations in the developing world. About 1.5 million children die each year from diarrheal disease.

Scientists believe most of these deaths could be prevented with proper sanitation, along with safe drinking water and improved hygiene.

[ahmedkhairy]

computerized transportation - home utilities are going to be connected to internet - vehicles wont need driver any more

[dilettante]

Cheese stuffed bacon.

[FunkyDexter]

Mmmmmm... Cheese Stuffed Bacon... with fried onion sprinkles.

[baja_yu]

computerized transportation - home utilities are going to be connected to internet - vehicles wont need driver any more

I can't wait for my water heater to be connected and have its own Twitter feed so it can tweet the water temperature. I just hope it doesn't go crazy and post naked pictures of me while I'm showering.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Water heaters have no interest in posting naked pictures of humans. That's not what turns them on. Instead, it will post pictures of your shower when you are not in it. To a water heater, that's a naked shower, and that's what gets them going. You can tell this is true, too: Consider that the water cools off if you are in the shower long enough. That means that the water in the tank is hottest when the shower isn't being used.

[baja_yu]

Yeah, but also, using up the hot water is what will get the heater 'turned on' by its thermostat.