FORUM ISSUES: Report Upgraded Issues in this thread

[Niya]

Sorting in the member's list page returns a server error.

[NiTrOwow]

http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...09#post4206909

I know wrong posted, sorry. Just found the global Announcement.

[JamieWarren09]

How can I view all threads that I have created?

[Nightwalker83]

Use the method in post #5.

[akhileshbc]

It was showing "Database Error" for the last half hour when I try to access this page !

[stanav]

The site's performance has been terrible ever since the upgrade. Any page takes at least 15 seconds to load if lucky. Many times it will time out. To me, this issue should be the #1 priority to get fixed. What the advantages of having a nice UI yet it doesn't load?

[techgnome]

Way I figure it, it's going to be a couple days when the indexing is done before things settle down. My experience has been mixed... Just when I think things are getting better... it tanks... I jsut hope it doesn't drive away people. I'm trying to be patient with things, major upgrades are never 100% smooth....

-tg

[J Andersson]

What has happened to my account? As soon as I try to log on to the system I get a HTML 500 error message. I also noticed that I can't view any threads I have replied to. I had to create this new account just to be able to report this issue I'm having. Everyone elses account seems to be working.

[dday9]

It was showing "Database Error" for the last half hour when I try to access this page !

I've been getting that all morning. As well as when I try to access my usercp, that's all messed up.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Well, it is all working...very inconsistently.

This morning, I've tried on IE9 and Chrome. Both browsers are having troubles, though the troubles seem to be different for each. At first, I got a post or two in IE9, and all was well, then I went back to the list of posts, and there weren't any. I had the breadcrumbs, and the rest of the page, but not a single thread. I went back to the highest level, and had all the forums, but all the formatting was gone, so it was nearly a plain text site, side to side on the browser, no graphics. I then switched to Chrome, and the initial page loaded correctly, but every forum was without formatting. That meant that the bottom of every post overran some of the text of the post. It was usable as such, but just barely. Word wrapping is pretty well hosed, too.

Switched back and forth between the browsers, and neither was rendering the page correctly. Most content was missing from both. I am now posting this on Chrome. Word wrapping is wrong, but other than that, this page is currently working fine. As a general rule, things are going better on Chrome than IE9, but neither one is 100%. Loading times are both horrendous, though, and database errors are frequent.

At this point, I would have to say that the roll out is too unstable to be considered a success. It is barely usable.

[si_the_geek]

Joacim, we are aware of the issue (Koolsid has the same), and it is being looked in to. Hopefully it wont take too long to correct.

[JuggaloBrotha]

This is probably already on the list to eventually be addressed, but the "Mark Thread Resolved" on the thread tools menu is missing.

[gep13]

Joacim, we are aware of the issue (Koolsid has the same), and it is being looked in to. Hopefully it wont take too long to correct.

Brad should be away to be emailing you about this Joacim. You might want to DM him as well.

Gary

[brad jones]

The issue with Joacim and Koolsid should now be resolved (both should be able to log in and use the forum). Additionally, the issue with the 'white out' pages on threads where the two of them have posted should now be resolved.

We are continuing to work on the other issues.

Thanks everyone for the continued feedback.

As a note, VBForums is a *huge* forum. It is also the one of the oldest -- if not the oldest -- forum using vBulletin (the original owners are the guys that do vBulletin). As such, there are a few items showing up here that didn't happen in our previous migrations. The site also has a gremlin or two (like the whiteout issue we just addressed). It is all of these things (the history, not the gremlins) that help make this such a cool forum! That and you guys - the community!

Brad!

[Siddharth Rout]

@Brad: Yup. Hurray!!!!!!! It is sorted. I was monitoring this thread in Offline mode.

I LIKE THE NEW LOOK!!!! :THUMB:

[Niya]

The site's performance has been terrible ever since the upgrade. Any page takes at least 15 seconds to load if lucky. Many times it will time out.

I'm getting this problem too.

[Niya]

Oh my, now I can't find the members list page. I think its missing.

Also, whenever typing a reply, I see an auto save thing pop up from time to time. Can anyone tell me what that is about ? Where does it save ?

[kareninstructor]

All appears mostly fine on my computers at this time but was not until about one hour ago which I figure is par for the course with an operation like this.
Not crazy about the large icons for each thread but will get use to them.

[Joacim Andersson]

Yeah, I'm back . BTW, how do you mark a thread as resolved, I can't find it in the thread tools menu anymore?

[techgnome]

The trend I'm noticing is that newer threads tend to be more responsive than ones that existed prior to the conversion... it wouldn't surprise me to to discover that the indexing process is what's interfering with things.

-tg

[Shaggy Hiker]

I assume that the constantly changing behavior is due to fixes and work that is ongoing. At the moment, all the issues I was having earlier this morning are all gone. Everything is working as I would expect, just as it did pretty much all of yesterday.

[NiTrOwow]

Indeed website is really really slow. Takes more than 10 seconds to load for me.
Same for UK and USA vpn. Seems to be the server i guess, and not my network.

[brad jones]

To answer a few questions --

Yes - there are developers looking at this site and some of the others that were perviously migrated as something being reviewed impact multiple sites.
Yes - There was a fix that should have helped speed up the forum, and yes, indexing is still happening which might have some pull on the speed, but it shouldn't have much.
Auto-save in replies is done so that if you have an issue with the browser, you don't loose what you had typed. This was an issue in previous versions of vBulletin. I assume it saves to cache, but I don't really know. Someone else might know where it is saving to.
Noted - I see that the resolve thread is missing as well. The main developer is reviewing this thread, so it will be noted by them as well.

[samuelk]

Is there a link to the rules somewhere that I'm completely overlooking? (Am I imagining that there was one on the main page prior to the update?)

[dday9]

Is there a link to the rules somewhere that I'm completely overlooking? (Am I imagining that there was one on the main page prior to the update?)

If you scroll all the way down, then you'll see it right above "developer.com". The label's text is Acceptable Use Policy. Or you can click in my signature :P

[samuelk]

If you scroll all the way down, then you'll see it right above "developer.com". The label's text is Acceptable Use Policy. Or you can click in my signature :P

Ah, there it is. I tried various searches but didn't think about AUP. Probably wouldn't hurt to make that a little more visible. (Although now that I'm looking at it, I don't see some of the things that were in place prior to the upgrade. Didn't there used to be a rule against asking for help writing programs to hack games, auto-register accounts and such?)

[dday9]

If it's not there then it could fall in the very last rule:

•You will, if asked by a representative of the Websites, cease posting any Content, and/or links to Content, deemed offensive, objectionable, or in poor taste by the staff of the Websites

Edit-
It could also fall here:

•You will not violate any laws nor to discuss illegal activities

or here

•You will not post any copyrighted material, nor link to any copyrighted material (with the exception of publicly available sites and pages that the legal owners of the copyrights have created to make that material freely available to the general public), unless that copyright is owned by you or you otherwise have the rights to such Content.

[techgnome]

Ah, there it is. I tried various searches but didn't think about AUP. Probably wouldn't hurt to make that a little more visible. (Although now that I'm looking at it, I don't see some of the things that were in place prior to the upgrade. Didn't there used to be a rule against asking for help writing programs to hack games, auto-register accounts and such?)

Why? you planning on something?

-tg

[brad jones]

Didn't there used to be a rule against asking for help writing programs to hack games, auto-register accounts and such?)

That would be in the AUP. It doesn't blatantly say "we don't allow your to post information on illegally using other people's programs, nor does it explicity state that we don't allow you to create systems that allow you to spam other sites" but we do say things that on a more global level indicate that such activities are not tolerated here.

It is kind of like having a rule that says "no stealing." Such a a rule would cover robbing banks without the need to say "no robbing banks".

A good rule of thumb is -- if what you are asking were public information to everybody in the world with your name tied to it, would you still post it? In the case of 'hacking a game," would you make your post if the owner of the source to that game were here and could see your actual name?

Rules didn't change with the upgrade. If in doubt - use common sense.....

Brad!

[samuelk]

Why? you planning on something?

Most of the games I'd be hacking would require me to revert back to a VB for DOS or else port VB to the 6502 processor.

I was going to suggest someone read the rules in another thread but wanted to make sure the rule I had in mind was actually there first.

[dday9]

Check out the edit in my prior post and point to those bullets.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Why? you planning on something?

-tg

Nope, but I think I know the thread he is talking about. Clearly up to no good, but hasn't explicitly stated so....yet.

By the way, I just noted an oddity, which is utterly trivial. If you hover over the green gems, you get a tooltip showing some message about the reputation, as always. However, if you rep somebody, that tooltip goes away for the person you repped until you refresh the page. This was not a comprehensive test, though, as I am not certain that the problem doesn't only occur if the rep took the person to a different level.

[si_the_geek]

By the way, I just noted an oddity, which is utterly trivial. If you hover over the green gems, you get a tooltip showing some message about the reputation, as always. However, if you rep somebody, that tooltip goes away for the person you repped until you refresh the page. This was not a comprehensive test, though, as I am not certain that the problem doesn't only occur if the rep took the person to a different level.

That happened before the upgrade too, but I'm not sure if it varies based on level etc.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I'm pretty sure that it wasn't happening for me, but maybe I was just fooling myself. In any case, it pretty much doesn't matter.

[szlamany]

Minor irritant: The "Quick Links" menu option comes and goes... the "Quick Links" menu doesn't show up when I view New Posts (which is what I use more often than not) ... but Mark Forum Read is always there, which doesn't make sense if I'm viewing a search result.... ????


-tg

I also feel that this is missing - used it often and it's not always there.

I didn't see that tg's point was noted or addressed - maybe I missed it - but I second this one!

[.paul.]

i did notice all or most of these issues throughout the day, but most seem to be getting better now. 1 thing i did notice is there's no code/vbcode buttons in the quick reply window...

[brad jones]

1 thing i did notice is there's no code/vbcode buttons in the quick reply window...

Did the quick reply window have a code button before the upgrade?

[4x2y]

The most awful thing in the new look, when i browse What's New? tab, both Replies and Views are in the same column under each other, previously Replies was in its own column, so it was easy for my eyes to find out threads with no answer!

Is it possible to change that?

[.paul.]

Did the quick reply window have a code button before the upgrade?

yep + VBCode

[Shaggy Hiker]

Yes it did. I was about to post the same thing that .Paul just posted, but now I can just add another request to get those back. I almost never used anything OTHER than the quick reply window since it had all I needed. It had the code buttons, the quote button (which is still there), and a few others. The only thing I ever needed to Go Advanced for was the smileys, and I don't use many of those.