Well i guess since rtbs aren't the most compatible with metafiles I'll have to use bitmaps instead. One reason why I was wanting to use metafiles is because their file size is very small. When I simply use the .Save method of the rich text box it creates very large files (which contain images) so I assume that it's saving in the .bmp format. How do you save rtf files whose images are in a smaller format like .gif?