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    Multi-Billion Dollar Idea

    Hey guys. You are not gonna believe what hit me like a ton of bricks while writing a VR app.

    Ok here me out. The current state of the internet is, whether you admit it or not, is still stuck in the dark ages. And what I mean by that is that webpages are what they are called...just pages. A fancy or static page full of buttons, images, text and media.

    But...

    What if the webpages weren't just pages? What if they were web "sites"? As in actual three dimensional locations you can visit in a virtual world. And Im not talking about some gigantic world such as the Oasis or the Matrix. Im talking millions of different realities.

    $$$ Im talking about Virtual Real Estate. $$$

    Imagine walking into a virtual library where you have access to billions of books and at the same time can visit real people at that such and such library. Imagine a virtual theme park where you can ride tons of different rides at your disposal (for a fee).
    Imagine visiting a virtual Amazon store where you can actually shop around countless isles of inventory at your disposal where you can actually examine and hold the item you want to buy before making a purchase. Imagine a virtual mini mart where you can select whatever junk food, cigarettes, and beer you want, check out, and have it delivered by drones in literally minutes. Imagine a virtual night club where you can meet other people to score a real life date.

    Each of these places can be in the form of virtual real estate where others can make real money off of. And with the launch of 5G networks, and more than capable devices, I feel that VR can take off in the form of being useful and vital as opposed to how it was in 2016 which was gimmicky. Problem is, is that Im not gonna be able to build all of these worlds and change the entire internet structure on my own. Im gonna need a team of developers and build a repetable software company from the ground up. And have all of these worlds linked by Googles search engine. Sounds good, right?

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    Read the book Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson, it includes just such a world. In a way, it melds Facebook and World of Warcraft.

    What you are describing is a bit like an immersive version of WoW, from what I've seen (never played the game, though, so I may be wrong). People running around in virtual buildings, working together, interacting with others, and so forth. It seems increasingly viable once we move away from HTML/JS and more to more WASM style stuff.
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    Not to sound too negative about some of those ideas but walking around a 3D virtual bookstore sounds a lot more effort and trouble than just typing something into a search box and having an e-book arrive on my kindle seconds later...

    A virtual reality that mimics the real world might look cool in the movies but it is probably not as efficient as what we currently have in our 2D pages. It would all depend on what you are trying to achieve though - retail is often about getting customers to hand over money quickly and encouraging them to spend more, Amazon and similar currently allow me to spend money pretty damn fast and I am not sure wandering around a 3D virtual store would do anything to make me spend money faster. This is coming from a person who one year spent so much money with Amazon that only my mortgage payments cost more

    Games, socialising or even visiting real world but distant locations however could certainly benefit from VR, I suppose the biggest costs there become the digitisation and storage as well as bandwidth and raw compute power to make it a reality.

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    That's a good point. I work with fish hatchery data. Some early programs suffered from the inability of people to figure out the interface. It's not a subject that is easy to describe to people who work at hatcheries, because there are so many disparate chunks of data that have to be entered in disparate places.

    After thinking about it for a time, I realized that what would be the easiest approach would be to make it like a game: Anything you did on the concrete, you did on the screen graphically. This made intuitive sense to people. If you wanted to move fish, you grabbed the fish from one raceway and dragged them to...well, wherever. You might release the fish by dragging them to a river (icon), or if they died, you might drag them to a cemetery (I wanted to be more respectful than just using a trash can, though that's what usually does happen). If you wanted to weigh the fish, you'd drag a scale to the fish. To feed them, you'd bring feed to the fish. And so on. Conceptually, it made sense to everybody. In practice, few people would want to use that interface for long. You might have 100 raceways. To feed all the fish....well, that would be a drag.

    The solution, in that case, was to use plugins. The drag and drop interface worked well in theory, and for some people it would be great in practice, but in other cases you wanted a spreadsheet-like interface, so that was also on offer.

    Basically, even in games that have a very graphical interface, you always want to drop out of that interface for certain types of transactions. That's not an impediment to the idea, though. You could still have your library, but you'd also need a kiosk front and center, so that the user could drop into a different mode of interaction when it became more convenient to do so. That's the approach I took with the hatchery program.
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    Re: Multi-Billion Dollar Idea

    The worlds will already feature a viable search via either by typing, or by voice recognition. At least until voice recognition becomes much more improved due to different accents and languages

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    Re: Multi-Billion Dollar Idea

    They already have virtual worlds, i.e. resorts where people are meeting and interacting in VR.
    I also know of local merchants that work with Google Street View so you can walk in and tour their store to look at merchandise they currently have on the floor. Of course, these are larger items, like furniture, and appliances, and not VR at the moment, but are steps on the way. Also, local grocery stores are jumping on the bandwagon to compete with Walmart, etc., by offering on-line shopping and same day delivery of groceries.

    So, not necessarily new ideas, just becoming more possible and practical as time goes by.

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    Isnt there a movie about this? Ralph breaks the internet or such that came out a few years ago?

    Sites, like mentioned, already have virtual walk throughs. One industry that has them is the real estate market. You want to buy a house and look at the listings, pick one out and take a virtual tour through the house
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    Sounds a lot like The Oasis from Ready Player One.
    Also sounds a lot like Second Life.... which... if I remember right... didn't work out so well.


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    Re: Multi-Billion Dollar Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by RobDog888 View Post
    One industry that has them is the real estate market. You want to buy a house and look at the listings, pick one out and take a virtual tour through the house
    Yeah, I did one of those. The fact that they had virtual junkies shooting up in one of the bathrooms was a bit unnerving.
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    One thing ive learned while making a VR app is that both lenses focal point needs positioned closer to the center to line up with your pupils. In my case i just changed the positions in 3d space with both lenses. Its why the rendering must be done twice. Otherwise with the VR helm on you end up with double vision. And searching this solution on Google gave out zero results. Mainly cause of already made VR librabries such as Unity and Unreal Engine 4. And noone had the balls like I did to make it without those libraries lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    Yeah, I did one of those. The fact that they had virtual junkies shooting up in one of the bathrooms was a bit unnerving.
    Tell me more, please.

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    I was also thinking of how ad revenue can be generated through VR. Instead of annoying ad banners, pop ups, or worse yet, full screen video ads with loud sound that interrupt the emmersive experience, you can have billboards on buildings, virtual tv sets playing something, ads in a virtual magazine, etc. So like the real world only in a virtual environment without interruption. Ad revenue combined with virtual real estate = $$$

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    I agree with PlausiblyDamp. A virtual world wouldn't work for online shopping. Most people prefer product results and info about it to be displayed instantaneously, so they wouldn't waste time walking through a new VR shop unless it offers products you can't get anywhere else online.

    Now if internet went all VR, then we wouldn't have a choice but get use to a slower pace of shopping online. Hell, this would create a boon for your local retailer and new ones where people prefer the physical world.

    VR could work for libraries, only for exploring their aisles to see what's available, but most small libraries wont have the funds or time to scan every single page of individual books for online reading. For meeting people in this VR world, I don't see libraries allowing that to be an option since this would more than likely attract tons of creeps that could put their customers at risk if they decide to meet in real life. Stalkers in this VR world might even pay a visit to this library in the physical world to see if their interests goes there in person, then follow them after they leave the building.
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    Thats where choice plays in. You can instantly search an item using voice chat and itll bring you to that item. Same with books. It doesnt have to be 1000s of isles to take hours to find that item you are looking for. But you could as a choice to be emmersed and end up coming across items you didnt know existed and end up buying them as well. Same holds true with books. Theres already millions of ebooks, emagazines, and ecomics out there online. Imagine all of that in one gigantic virtual bookstore or library.

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