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    Cannot access VBForums securly

    When I use https:// to access vbforums.com I get the following error and the page will not load:

    An error occurred during a connection to www.vbforums.com. SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. Error code: SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    Don't use HTTPS (leave off the "S")

    It'll be added to the site at some point in the near future.
    Wi-fi went down for five minutes, so I had to talk to my family....They seem like nice people.

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    It'll be added to the site at some point in the near future.


    It's now been a year since the issue of https was first raised!
    Last edited by 2kaud; Mar 18th, 2018 at 06:32 AM.
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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R Jones View Post
    Don't use HTTPS (leave off the "S")

    It'll be added to the site at some point in the near future.
    In all honesty it is getting embarrassing that something as simple and necessary as https is still not implemented on a developer forum. People coming here should not being seeing such poor practices when they are supposedly learning how to do things correctly.

    Https is a fundamental thing for any website that accepts any sort of information, especially if usernames and passwords are involved. Anyone running modern versions of chrome are already seeing a "not secure" message (see attached screen clipping) and this is only going to get worse in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlausiblyDamp View Post
    In all honesty it is getting embarrassing that something as simple and necessary as https is still not implemented on a developer forum. People coming here should not being seeing such poor practices when they are supposedly learning how to do things correctly.

    Https is a fundamental thing for any website that accepts any sort of information, especially if usernames and passwords are involved. Anyone running modern versions of chrome are already seeing a "not secure" message (see attached screen clipping) and this is only going to get worse in the future.
    I agree 100% and it is already getting worse. In Firefox, in addition to the little unsecure Lock to the left of the URL bar (like Chrome) when I focus the Username or Password field to login, I get a big drop down, explaining the lack of security. This is 2018, even forums about more mundane topics are using SSL now. This might actually be the last website in existence that doesn't at least have SSL as an option when logging in.

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    In Firefox, in addition to the little unsecure Lock to the left of the URL bar (like Chrome) when I focus the Username or Password field to login, I get a big drop down, explaining the lack of security.
    I've had this for a year now (reported 18 March 2017 via Codeguru)! The last update was 3 Jan 2018.

    We're working on implementing https on the forums. It should be completed in the next month or two.
    Suggestions for a non-celebration of the anniversary?
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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    I would imagine it has more to do with their ads and everything else embedded than them simply not adding the https to the site. If all they had to do was add the cert and create the redirect, I'm sure it would have been done a long time ago.

    As nice as the site is, their bottom line is the almighty dollar and if they lose a bunch of their advertisers because they switch to https and those ads don't support https, I would imagine the admins would get a bit of a slap.

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    There had been plans to get the certificate applied to this site and CG last year. I'm no longer with QuinStreet (Site owners), so I can't speak for them. As was mentioned above, the HTTPS is primarily a certificate issue. On a lot of sites it is also making sure any hard coded URLs don't have http in them on the site. This, however, can also be handled with redirects. Adding the HTTPS support isn't rocket science and there are entities that will provide certificates at low to no cost.

    It really is something that the site owners should have already put in place. As to advertisers, they are having to deal with this on other sites, so it shouldn't be anything new here. Not having HTTPS is also something that has the potential of hurting SEO rankings, so there are a lot of reasons to get this done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R Jones View Post
    Don't use HTTPS (leave off the "S")

    It'll be added to the site at some point in the near future.
    and even after the 'upgrade', there's still no sign of https. anything further to be seen from the crystal ball?
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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    This site hasn't been through the upgrade/server relocation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R Jones View Post
    This site hasn't been through the upgrade/server relocation
    I thought I saw an admin message saying it was to be upgraded last weekend?
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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    And it was.... it went through AN upgrade... not THE upgrade...

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    I'm 99% certain nothing happened last weekend.. The site is still on the old version of vBulletin.

    We found a real weird/nasty hiccup on sister sites.
    Wi-fi went down for five minutes, so I had to talk to my family....They seem like nice people.

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    OK... Now I'm 100% certain AND-> "It should be next week sometime."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R Jones View Post
    OK... Now I'm 100% certain AND-> "It should be next week sometime."
    Lets hope it brings some new features too. Like Spoilers.

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    Nah, more likely another humpty-jumpty advertising bar on the left. Soon the site will be unreadable except maximized on a 16:9 or wider monitor.

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    *** VBForums is currently scheduled to start Wednesday July 18th and could take up to 24 hours to complete. ***

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    The upgrade and move to new server has been completed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    Nah, more likely another humpty-jumpty advertising bar on the left. Soon the site will be unreadable except maximized on a 16:9 or wider monitor.
    I just bought a 43" 4K TV to use as a monitor ($199 at Best Buy this week) and it works great, so I guess I'm prepared.

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    I noticed that jmc's posted code has gone missing (at least for me, I tried two browsers), which could be a side effect of the upgrade, perhaps?
    An example:
    http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...=1#post5303259

    p.s. Also, I seem to have a "rash" of posts trying to be posted more than once when I submit it, like my mouse might be bouncing or double-clicking on the submit button.
    Last edited by passel; Jul 18th, 2018 at 04:52 PM.

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    Quote Originally Posted by passel View Post
    I noticed that jmc's posted code has gone missing (at least for me, I tried two browsers), which could be a side effect of the upgrade, perhaps?
    An example:
    http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...=1#post5303259
    The code is still there (you can see it if you quote the post), it just isn't being displayed properly... the [Code] tags work properly, but the [HIGHLIGHT=vb.net] doesn't

    p.s. Also, I seem to have a "rash" of posts trying to be posted more than once when I submit it, like my mouse might be bouncing or double-clicking on the submit button.
    It's happening for me too.

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    Still no https though, and I got a whole bunch of PHP warnings when I logged in. They went away once the page refreshed so I didn't get a screen shot of them.

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    p.s. Also, I seem to have a "rash" of posts trying to be posted more than once when I submit it, like my mouse might be bouncing or double-clicking on the submit button.
    Same here running latest version of Chrome

    Also a bunch of PHP errors when accessing the following thread:
    http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...-during-search

    PHP Warning: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead in ..../includes/geshi.php on line 2147

    PHP Warning: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead in ..../includes/geshi.php on line 2147

    PHP Warning: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead in ..../includes/geshi.php on line 2147

    PHP Warning: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead in ..../includes/geshi.php on line 2147

    ...
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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    The PHP Errors are being looked at.

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    This thread also has errors, including one at the bottom of the page:

    http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...lor-of-a-pixel

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    This thread also has errors, including one at the bottom of the page:

    http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...lor-of-a-pixel

    I am also getting double posts every time I make a post.

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    I'm reporting this stuff....

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    Chrome 68 is being rolled out today, after mine updated I now get this Name:  Capture.JPG
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Size:  11.2 KB displayed, given how long ago google announced they were going to do this it really should be sorted. It honestly looks poor for a forum about programming, that supposedly advocates best practices, to be flagged in this manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlausiblyDamp View Post
    Chrome 68 is being rolled out today, after mine updated I now get this Name:  Capture.JPG
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Size:  11.2 KB displayed, given how long ago google announced they were going to do this it really should be sorted. It honestly looks poor for a forum about programming, that supposedly advocates best practices, to be flagged in this manner.
    A similar message from Firefox has been displayed for over a year! I first raised it 18 March 2017 on a sister forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2kaud View Post
    A similar message from Firefox has been displayed for over a year! I first raised it 18 March 2017 on a sister forum.
    I suppose it isn't too bad then, given the current browser statistics it is only going to be about 90% of browsers that will get the error, hardly worth bothering about

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    Re: Cannot access VBForums securly

    This thread is now over a year old and still no https://. I really do think this is the LAST web site on the entire internet that does NOT have SSL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverickz View Post
    This thread is now over a year old and still no https://. I really do think this is the LAST web site on the entire internet that does NOT have SSL.

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    I'm not sure why your image died when I deleted two of your duplicate posts.. Course the picture was pretty meaning less anyway.

    I received an email three weeks ago that started with-> "I’m working on converting forums to use SSL, and mixed content warnings have been a problem."

    The short version is that the ability to post images within signatures is going away. It will affect approx 20 active/current members.

    (((STAY TUNED)))

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    Is that going to squash DDay's bug? I don't know if he still has that in his signature, but it was pretty great.
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    His bug is still alive and waiting to be smashed.

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    Smashing the bug will signal the end of an era.
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    But if you dip into some chocolate you can have a nice little virtual snack.

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