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    Re: Breaking News, few guys in China wanna write a new basic language

    That sounds like a different language, though. There are plenty of options if you allow for different languages. Cordova does a pretty fair job of being kinda cross platform, but it's based on JavaScript/HTML, so is quite useless for people who want to port existing VB6 apps, which is usually what people are after.
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    Re: Breaking News, few guys in China wanna write a new basic language

    Any news of a replacement for the VB6 programming language is always interesting. I hope, one day, to actually see one be made available. The key feature of any replacement, imo, is how easily you can port existing VB6 source code. This is the area where VB.Net and other attempts failed.

    In related news, a new release 7 of NS Basic has just been launched (October 1). NSBasic uses a VB6-like IDE and a VB-like language. NS Basic is targeted at Web and Mobile (Android and iOS) apps. Many VB6 controls have equivalents in NSBasic. You can't directly migrate VB6 to NSBasic, but you can create forms in NSBasic and give them exactly the same name as the VB6 form. Then add controls to the form (again giving them the exact same name as the VB6 controls). You can then copy and paste the VB6 code to the NS Basic form.

    Much VB6 code can be re-used, that which can't is typically because of the differences between desktop and web apps. So, for example, no direct access to a database (except SQLite).

    You can keep your source code in Basic and continue to edit it in the IDE, NSBasic transcompiles to JavaScript/HTML.

    PhoneGap (Cordova) are supported.

    Interestingly version 7 supports Node.js (and also Bootstrap 4).

    I haven't downloaded version 7 yet, so I don't know the detail but I'm particularly interested in using node.js on desktops as well as servers.

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    https://wiki.nsbasic.com/Version_7

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    Re: Breaking News, few guys in China wanna write a new basic language

    I think a lot of people went to B4J as an aid in transitioning to Java and they just haven't looked back. Others have retired or expired, maybe the bigger reason why the community has shrunk so much.

    The B4J forum seems as busy or busier than this one. Not bad for a language from a small company.

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    Re: Breaking News, few guys in China wanna write a new basic language

    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    I think a lot of people went to B4J as an aid in transitioning to Java and they just haven't looked back. Others have retired or expired, maybe the bigger reason why the community has shrunk so much.

    The B4J forum seems as busy or busier than this one. Not bad for a language from a small company.
    I would like to add here. For mobile development solutions B4A and B4I are also used very profusely.

    Very few seem to switch to free and opensource FreeBasic (and FireFly IDE) as compare to B4J which is totally free and easier to use!

    Once upon a time when B4J was not that feature rich and powerful I used to use close source but free Jabaco (http://www.jabaco.org). But unfortunately this product has stagnated and there does not seem to be any worthwhile feature updates and it has still not crossed its Beat stage.

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    Re: Breaking News, few guys in China wanna write a new basic language

    That's another issue, of course. One of the things that MS brings is weight.

    What people would like is to have something that is well used, widely usable, and will be supported and updated for the rest of our careers, or at least as long as we are interested in it. That last part is out of the question, of course. If we look back over the fairly brief history of programming, the prospects of anything lasting more than two decades is pretty dismal. The hardware we target changes too fast, the OS changes too fast, and languages....change.
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    Re: Breaking News, few guys in China wanna write a new basic language

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    That's another issue, of course. One of the things that MS brings is weight.

    What people would like is to have something that is well used, widely usable, and will be supported and updated for the rest of our careers, or at least as long as we are interested in it. That last part is out of the question, of course. If we look back over the fairly brief history of programming, the prospects of anything lasting more than two decades is pretty dismal. The hardware we target changes too fast, the OS changes too fast, and languages....change.
    I would like to distinguish between what happen naturally and what happen "not naturally".
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    Re: Breaking News, few guys in China wanna write a new basic language

    I can't think of any answer to that which would be appropriate for this forum, so I guess you'd best elaborate.
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    Re: Breaking News, few guys in China wanna write a new basic language

    Yes, naturally is when something becomes obsolete because something better appears.
    People choose the better thing over the other.
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    Re: Breaking News, few guys in China wanna write a new basic language

    Quote Originally Posted by Eduardo- View Post
    And why don't you come here?
    OK. And what about doing an ice bucket challenge?
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