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    Bug found when toggling TrustInfo between namespaces v2 and v3. Fixed.

    Additionally. As mentioned in post #21. It is possible to get two TrustInfo entries if merging multiple manifests, one using v2 and one using v3, depending if v2 exists in the selected manifest. Also mentioned in that post, you can simply unselect the one you don't want. When selecting the menu to toggle the namespace and 2 or more TrustInfo elements exist, the first element is the one that gets toggled. At that time, the others will be flagged so you can delete them via the tree node's context menu (right click)
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    Re: [VB6] Manifest Creator II

    thanks for the update

    EDIT:
    I noticed in your .vbp, you're using COMCTL32.OCX v1.3
    is that version bound to OS ? I got 1.4 on Win7
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    Thanks for your great work on this, LaVolpe
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    Quote Originally Posted by VbNetMatrix View Post
    I noticed in your .vbp, you're using COMCTL32.OCX v1.3
    is that version bound to OS ? I got 1.4 on Win7
    Yep, chose the v5 common controls so it would be themed. Theoretically, your version should take effect due to the option to update ActiveX automatically...
    Quote Originally Posted by msdn/vb6
    The Upgrade ActiveX Controls project property automatically updates any ActiveX controls if you have installed a newer version of them on your machine since the last time you opened the project.
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    Re: [VB6] Manifest Creator II

    if I get it correctly, in order for a project to be themed, I need to use the v1.3 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VbNetMatrix View Post
    if I get it correctly, in order for a project to be themed, I need to use the v1.3 ?
    Ensure version 5 vs. version 6 of the common controls. Note that the comctl32 (v5), the version is retrieved from the dll (comctl32.dll), not the ocx. In your VB components (Ctrl+T), look for entry: Microsoft Windows Common Controls 5.0. The v6 (components entry: Microsoft Windows Common Controls 6.0) is a usercontrol that can't be themed via a manifest.

    FYI: My version number from the DLL is 5.82 xxxxxxx

    Where the 1.3 or 1.4 comes from, I don't know. Here is a somewhat interesting link regarding the revisions of that dll.

    Edited: Theming does not occur in the IDE unless VB6.exe has a manifest (external or embedded)

    Follow-up. I went to Microsoft's site and re-downloaded SP6. After reinstalling, I now have v1.4. I had a cached version of SP6 previously, that I used whenever I reinstalled VB6. Obviously SP6 was upgraded a bit sometime afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaVolpe View Post
    Ensure version 5 vs. version 6 of the common controls. Note that the comctl32 (v5), the version is retrieved from the dll (comctl32.dll), not the ocx. In your VB components (Ctrl+T), look for entry: Microsoft Windows Common Controls 5.0. The v6 (components entry: Microsoft Windows Common Controls 6.0) is a usercontrol that can't be themed via a manifest.

    FYI: My version number from the DLL is 5.82 xxxxxxx

    Where the 1.3 or 1.4 comes from, I don't know. Here is a somewhat interesting link regarding the revisions of that dll.

    Edited: Theming does not occur in the IDE unless VB6.exe has a manifest (external or embedded)
    yes thanks, now I understand... I was aware about the v5 (themable dll) and v6 (static ocx)
    as for the vb6.exe, I don't use manifest on it because it cause too many problem in the IDE (the main one being the accessing the color)

    I also got 5.82, the next 4 number is the version of the OS (in my case 7601 mean Win7sp1) and the 5 other digit is the revision model, wich should be the same for everyone using the most recent version of the 5.82. I got 18837, do you have a most recent version ? just asking in case I missed a MS patch.

    btw, off topic, but is there a way so the forum when it send me email for new post doesn'T always send me to post #23 of page #1 of this thread ??? it seem to be keeping track of last comment I did instead of where I read.

    thanks for the link I'm reading it.

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    Re: [VB6] Manifest Creator II

    using 64 bit architecture it specifies 'ia64' this should be amd64 ? also a valid value is '*' for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vbLewis View Post
    using 64 bit architecture it specifies 'ia64' this should be amd64 ? also a valid value is '*' for all.
    I err on the side of official documentation. Per MSDN (Application Manifests)...
    Specifies the processor. The valid values are x86 for 32-bit Windows and ia64 for 64-bit Windows. Optional.
    However, here is another quote I found on a page describing how to enable visual themes. Note that this deals specifically with the common controls dependency. Based on the following, I am considering offering amd64 & * for the common controls entry.
    Set the processorArchitecture entry to "X86" if your application targets the 32 bit Windows platform, or to "amd64" if your application targets the 64 bit Windows platform. You can also specify "*", which ensures that all platforms are targeted.
    Note: You can override this by holding the shift key and right clicking on the item. Then select "Value" from the context menu, you'll see a "New Value" submenu... that provides the option to override. On the GDI+ and Common Controls entry, holding the shift key offers the "Show Attributes" option. Once that is selected, now you can override via the "New Value" submenu.

    In the meantime, anyone can update the project to offer the other options:
    1. Find this line in cManifestEx class, pvValidateAttributes routine
    Code:
    .AddAttributeValueList "processorArchitecture", attr_HasValueList Or attr_CanBeBlank, "x86", "32 Bit", "ia64", "64 Bit"
    2. Suggested change
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    .AddAttributeValueList "processorArchitecture", attr_HasValueList Or attr_CanBeBlank, "x86", "32 Bit", "ia64", "64 Bit (Itanium)", "amd64", "64 Bit (AMD)", "*", "All Platforms"
    For VB applications (original intent of this project), 64-bit won't be in play. However, nice to know some may be using this for their non-VB projects.
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    Minor update. Had an itch I had to scratch.

    There is an undocumented 2014 WindowsSettings option: forceFocusBasedMouseWheel. This is undocumented and I only know about it because it exists in the registry. After some trial and error, I have added that option; hence the update

    What that option does is revert to pre-Win10 mousewheel behavior where the mousewheel only affects the window with the keyboard focus. As of Win10, per Raymond Chen, Windows broke this and allowed the wheel to affect any window under the mouse, regardless whether it had the focus or not. The newly added option prevents that for the thread only. So if you had 2 listboxes that have scrollbars, this option will only allow the mouse to scroll the one that has the focus, even if the mouse is over the other listbox.
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    Re: [VB6] Manifest Creator II

    Your release on 25 Oct 2017 shows version 2.0.4. So does your new version on 2 Sep 2019. Shouldn't it be incremented to at least 2.0.5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainMan View Post
    Shouldn't it be incremented to at least 2.0.5?
    Feel free to change it to whatever you want. I often get lazy on incrementing when only minor updates are applied.
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    Re: [VB6] Manifest Creator II

    Thanks for creating this invaluable tool. I've been using it for quite some time now and it has always come in handy!

    I recently stumbled over an incorrect configuration when trying to use the printerDriverIsolation windowsSetting. You've put this into the wrong namespace (2013). According to the docs it should belong into the "http://schemas.microsoft.com/SMI/2011/WindowsSettings" namespace. As soon as I corrected your base XML in the resource file the error went away.

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    @ Caine, thanx for the bug report. I'll be sure to fix it. After reviewing MSDN, yepper 2011 vs 2013

    FYI: Two new settings showed up on MSDN lately which I'll include in the next update:
    - for 2019: <activeCodePage>
    - for 2020: <heapType>
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    Project updated to address bug report in post 53 by Cain.

    In addition to aligning printerDriverIsolation to the correct namespace, also needed to do this with: highResolutionScrollingAware

    Following enhancements made:
    - added activeCodePage and heapType elements, using 2019 and 2020 namespaces respectively
    - for any elements that can have comma-delimited values, those values can now be placed in user-defined order. This is important for the dpiAwareness element because first-recognized, first-used is the rule of thumb for that element's values. Example
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    <dpiAwareness>permonitorv2, permonitor, system</dpiAwareness>
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaVolpe View Post
    If you want your VB6.exe to use an external manifest, unless you plan on using some 3rd party software to embed one into the exe (and hope it doesn't corrupt it), some annoyances are expected. Simply adding an external manifest along side of VB6.exe doesn't guarantee it will be used. You may very well need to change a registry setting to make it happen. After you are sure your manifest is being recognized, you will likely want to go and restore the setting:
    Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SideBySide
    Value: PreferExternalManifest
    Data: 1 = prefer, 0 = don't prefer
    After making the change and manifest still appears to not take effect, reboot. It is getting harder and harder to use external manifests within Windows -- and that's probably not a bad thing.
    I have been using resource files and manifests in my apps for quite some time but I've stumbled upon this thread while searching for how to update the user interface to reflect modern standards. Applying visual themes via the manifest file seems to be just the thing I was looking for. Your posts have helped me numerous times throughout the years, LaVolpe!

    Since you mentioned that it's possible to update the theme of the VB6 IDE itself, I definitely wanted to try that and I experienced the following outcomes:

    In both Windows 7 and Windows 10 the external manifest doesn't work unless you set "PreferExternalManifest=1" as you suggested. Setting it back to zero will ignore the external manifest again!

    If you set "PreferExternalManifest=1" there is an unexpected behavior in Windows 7. The "Network" icon will disappear from the taskbar (lower right corner, near the clock). Also clicking the clock will no longer display the calendar (nothing happens). These are fixed by setting PreferExternalManifest back to zero (requires reboot). In Windows 10 everything works correctly.

    I have found a way to embed the external manifest inside the VB6.EXE file by using the manifest tool (mt.exe) that comes with the Microsoft Windows SDK. If you don't have the SDK you can download just the mt.exe tool from: https://github.com/eladkarako/mt

    Code:
    mt.exe -manifest VB6.EXE.manifest -outputresource:VB6.EXE;1
    After running the command above, the new VB6.EXE will contain the manifest file embedded inside itself while somehow retaining the same file size as before and you will have the added benefit of the visual themes inside the IDE! Hope this helps.

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    Re: [VB6] Manifest Creator II

    FYI. Something I don't think I've used in over a decade was reported as an issue when project is manifested: frames inside frames

    In the old days of XP, some controls would not render correctly when placed in a frame, the option button was the biggest issue. The easy workaround then was to place those controls inside a picturebox, then put the picturebox inside the frame. After resizing, repositioning the picturebox and changing its backcolor as needed, you simply made it borderless. The controls that would not render properly in the frame would render properly in the picturebox inside the frame.

    Well, that problem can still arise when a frame is placed in another frame. The frame's caption won't render correctly. You can test this in a manifested IDE or compiled test project. The easy workaround is the same as was used back in the XP days ... place the frame inside a picturebox and that picturebox inside the other frame.

    I've added a note about this in post #2 (Tips, notes, etc)
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    It so happens that my project which needed a visual styles facelift also used several smaller frames inside one big frame so I was confronted with this bug right away. It seems that frames need to be hosted inside a container that has a DC (device context) and frame themselves don't have one, hence the need for the PictureBox.

    I wasn't going to add PictureBoxes at design time so I figured I could create temporary PictureBoxes at run time! For some reason this didn't work inside the Form_Load event so I had to use Form_Activate and also needed to make sure the Activate event didn't fire more than once:

    Code:
    Private Sub Form_Activate()
    Dim xControl As Control, PicContainer As PictureBox, i As Long
    Static bActivate as Boolean
        If bActivate Then Exit Sub
        bActivate = True
        i = 1
        For Each xControl In Me.Controls
            If TypeOf xControl Is Frame Then
                If TypeOf xControl.Container Is Frame Then
                    Set PicContainer = Me.Controls.Add("VB.PictureBox", "PictureBox" & i, xControl.Container)
                    i = i + 1 
                    With PicContainer
                        .BorderStyle = 0
                        .BackColor = xControl.Container.BackColor
                        .TabStop = False
                    End With
                    With xControl
                        PicContainer.Move .Left, .Top, .Width, .Height
                        Set .Container = PicContainer
                        .Move 0, 0
                    End With
                End If
            End If
        Next xControl
    End Sub
    This code runs very nicely and provides a PictureBox container for each frame hosted inside a bigger frame. Hope this helps!

    Edited. Thanks for the tip LaVolpe, you rock as usual!
    Last edited by VanGoghGaming; Apr 21st, 2020 at 02:45 PM. Reason: Minor code tweak thanks to LaVolpe!

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    Re: [VB6] Manifest Creator II

    Quote Originally Posted by VanGoghGaming View Post
    This code runs very nicely and provides a PictureBox container for each frame hosted inside a bigger frame. Hope this helps!
    Nice touch, could help others. Just to nit pick a tiny bit... You could test the frame's container type instead of testing for Me, i.e., test for Frame specifically. If the container is a frame, then apply the dynamically loaded picturebox workaround, else don't. Worse case scenario otherwise is loading up unneeded picturebox controls, i.e., frame is in a picturebox already or frame added to some other ocx/control for example. Would be a small tweak and still remain generic.

    The only potential flaw I can see, and it would be on per-user scenarios, is ZOrder when it must matter to the user. I think that in majority of scenarios, your code should work just fine.

    Edited. If you want to tweak your code a bit, just update the above post vs. adding it again. Either way, I'm going to point people to your posting as an option for that specific problem.
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    Re: [VB6] Manifest Creator II

    I notice that if I disable a frame (or label), it doesn't "gray out" anymore. Is there a workaround?

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    Well, if you are theming the controls, and don't like the way the theme is applied to some controls, not sure what anyone can say. The options seem to be just a couple: a) don't theme or b) subclass and draw the control yourself, c) use a custom control. You might be able to apply your own theme? In any case, that is a question that should be asked in the general VB forum section.

    Edited: The frame is probably a button-like control behind the scenes. It uses a window-style that includes the value 7 which is also the value for BS_GROUPBOX. Based on that and the description of a group-box, sounds a lot like a frame. And if actually a 'button' behind the scenes, that would explain why the theme is taking precedence.
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    Re: [VB6] Manifest Creator II

    When manifesting the IDE to have it themed, that popup palette for color selection doesn't display correctly. The listbox of system colors works, but the palette is blank/erased. I have a remedy in an add-in that you can use. See this thread
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