I haven't visited the forums in about a week due to the holiday weekend, being busy with other things, etc., but coming back today ... boy what a let down. Experiencing 30 to 60+ second page load times, it seems like things are getting worse...
It is starting to look like we are stuck with the poor and inconsistant performance. Some days it is slow other days it is very slow and sometimes it is totally unbearable. Even when the pages load at the fastest speed I have saw sice the upgrade they are still slow and other times they are 10 - 100 times slower than the normal slow. IMO loading these pages should never take more than 10-15 seconds and that would be slow but we almost never see that good a speed anymore yet other forums which are running vBulletin can load the posts in 1-3 seconds more often than not.
Edit: Took me 3 attempts to get the edit window to show with the text of my post in it. 1st try it did not show at all, 2nd try it showed but was empty. 3rd try I am able to type:
I don't know if this will help but I have noticed that anytime this forum is slow or experiencing problems Code Guru is also experiencing those same problems. Sometimes it seems that both forums are sharing a dail up modem
Last edited by DataMiser; Nov 27th, 2012 at 01:33 PM.
I discussed this with our development manager yesterday. He is building a new plan to dig into the vBulletin code again. My inclination is that there is some ad locking or something happening in the code somewhere. The randomness of the slowdowns makes this trickier to find.
I'll point out the trace dump in this thread as something for htem to look at as well (if they haven't arleady seen it).
I discussed this with our development manager yesterday. He is building a new plan to dig into the vBulletin code again. My inclination is that there is some ad locking or something happening in the code somewhere. The randomness of the slowdowns makes this trickier to find.
I'll point out the trace dump in this thread as something for htem to look at as well (if they haven't arleady seen it).
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I hope that you will keep us up to date.
The speed is horrible this morning, taking much longer to load each page than to read them. Pretty much unusable at this point.
Hard to believe that they have not found and corrected the problem already. I would hate to think it would take me even half this long to solve an issue like this. My customers would all jump ship if so.
I enjoy the forums but this is just so agravating waiting and waiting and waiting where even on the best days the pages take several seconds and on the worst days take minutes if they load at all.
The performance this morning has been the worst I have seen to date. However, there does appear to be a pattern forming. For me at least, on the days that I have seen horrible performance (many seconds to many minutes to load a page), the time that this has happened has all been around 10-12 MST, which would mean about 12-2 Eastern.
I don't have the feeling that this has happened every day, but I can't be certain that isn't a sampling error. I can't say definitively that I have been on the forum every weekday during those hours (though, based on my number of posts, I kind of suspect that I have).
I just pinged both, the dev and IT managers responsble.....
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Brad!
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At 1300 MST, performance was back to normal (and I am stuffed with pizza, so I can't say what happened in the middle).
This seems to support my observation that there is a narrow window of time when I, at least, am seeing poor performance. The window is an odd one, too, as it is mid-day on the east coast and mid-morning on the west coast.
It does seem to be at its worst in the mornings to mid afternoon here on the east coast but I have also had issues at all hours. This morning was the worst yet. I was online from around 12:30 until 2:00 and during that time I only managed to read 3 posts and reply twice both of which resulted in a db error and almost every page load was taking several minutes.
Both this site and Code Guru were apparently offline in the early am this morning. I tried to login around 1:30 AM EST and when I tried this site all I got was the generic IE error page that it could not connect. When I tried to login to Code Guru I got a message that the request could not be processed along with a long error code of some sort. Of course when I tried a different site it connected right away.
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I've seen the best performance I can ever remember seeing for the last few days. The one or two slow posts that occured always ended up with the duplicate message, so there is still some issue with that, but otherwise the speed is really zippy, for me.
Been off vbforums for a while (since the upgrade - couldn't stand the performance issue back then), came back today and I don't notice any improvement. Still slow. Still having database errors. Still double posting. Every post I posted today received "This forum requires that you wait 30 seconds between posts..." message. Is it only me or does anyone else experiences the same?
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Been off vbforums for a while (since the upgrade - couldn't stand the performance issue back then), came back today and I don't notice any improvement. Still slow. Still having database errors. Still double posting. Every post I posted today received "This forum requires that you wait 30 seconds between posts..." message. Is it only me or does anyone else experiences the same?
There were times when the performance was back to normal but it has been sporadic. It seems every week it switches between poor and good performance. Last week performance was superb.....for the most part. I haven't seen a db error in a couple weeks but I got that wait 30 seconds message just yesterday.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
Yesterday when I first logged in it was very slow and then the first post I tried to view generate a database error after that it seemed fine. This morning there seems to be an issue with typing where the text is very slow to appear at times. I am not a very good nor very fast typist but this morning I am able to get ahead of the text display while typing. Sometimes when I hit a key it is taking up to 1 second for the character to appear in the window and other time it appears quickly. Sometimes as I type I will complete a word and none of the characters have appeared then they all appear at once. Strange ....
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
I might have asked this before...
When you find the speed to slow down, please let me know what browser you are using. For example, I just had IE take a bit of time to load the page, but FireFox loaded a lot quicker.
Thanks,
Brad!
(I just refreshed the page and Firefix is twice as fast as IE.)
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C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
Most of the time I am using IE8 but I also use Firefox sometimes depending on which computer I use to log in. I have saw issues with both of them though at first it did seem that firefox was doing better.
I use only Firefox... And yes, performance is a lot better today... Haven't got any database errors or double postings yet. Slow loading still happens once in every while, but I can deal with that.
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Re: Speed - Again
Sloooooooooooooooooooooooooowww
It's been absolutely dragging this morning (UK time). I'm using IE8. It's been taking upwards of 20 mintues to open a page sometimes (at which point I've generally given up). In fact, I've been trying to post this all morning.
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The forum has been well behaved for me in the last few days. Speed is reasonably OK. Still got a hiccup once every while but it could be issues with my LAN or internet connection and not VBF entirely. No database errors. No double postings.
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I haven't been on much the past several days, but it has been slow when I was. Is this ever going to be fixed or are we going to have to learn to accept mediocrity?
I haven't had any issue for a couple weeks. The performance has been excellent for me. I would say this inconsistency for different people is probably about as maddening as the slowdown itself.
If I start at the page with all the sub forums listed and page-up/down or key up/down all is fine.
The following is, sometimes happens and other times does not.
Enter into a posting with say five average size replies and the original message is a couple of sentences, page down via key press or mouse and the page acts like it is still loading even thou it is completely finished loading, get to the bottom of the page, go back up, same thing.
There is too much script and too much garbage in general.
Can we do away with "today's birthdays" at the bottom of the home page? This is a huge load of crap, especially considering that most of the thousands of members don't even post here anymore.
As a general rule, pieces of software add features with each new version, which leads to progressive bloat. The same appears to be the case with the forum software. The new stuff is flashy, but performance seems to always ride the back of the bus....and when it comes to computers, how you ride the bus is really important.
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In my case it's mostly Christmas that has caused the progressive bloat.
Everything's running lickety split for me on the forum at the moment and has been over the whole festive period. That might be because there's less folks using it though.
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In my case it's mostly Christmas that has caused the progressive bloat.
Well, things should be back to how they were two week after Christmas because unless I am mistaken the northern hemisphere users have two weeks vacation over Christmas.
when you quote a post could you please do it via the "Reply With Quote" button or if it multiple post click the "''+" button then "Reply With Quote" button.
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