Web Development

[dday9]

I'm wanting to start doing some web development, strictly as a hobby, eventually I will probolly make a webgame, but as of right now I don't work for anybody(in a programming aspect) and I don't plan on doing this as a job. What should I learn with these prerequisits:

What I want to do: game programming, database programming
What I can do: write pretty fluently in Vb.net, read C(kinda), and I fooled around with html once upon a time.

Any suggestions? Or am I even in the wrong forum?

[dilettante]

Well coming to a VB forum site to talk about Web "development" is a little bit like walking into a bar and ordering a glass of milk.

Haven't you found a good forum site that specializes in this? There are tons of different and fairly incompatible development tool sets once you move beyond the basics. If you are new enough at the game that you don't have a pre-chosen favorite perhaps you want an introductory tutorial site instead?

http://www.w3schools.com/ is one.

[Nightwalker83]

If you are terrible at the visual side of this I wouldn't bother! I achieved my diploma in web development at school a couple of years ago when I just wanted to do it as a hobby. The coding was alright even though, it was just html, css, java, flash and php but when it comes to the visual stuff such as the look and feel, matching colours, etc I suck.

[dday9]

Well coming to a VB forum site to talk about Web "development" is a little bit like walking into a bar and ordering a glass of milk.

asp.net?

If you are terrible at the visual side of this I wouldn't bother!

Well no, when I got into programming I choose visual basic because I could see the controls I added to the form. Like I can start with no idea of what I want to do, add a couple of controls and then bam get a whole project going. I think that's what I love most about visual basic. And I guess the whole reason I want to start with web development is to broaden what I've all ready learned. I mean, like I said I don't program for a living. I just love how you can put certain keywords together and from that build something huge!

[Nightwalker83]

Wait a minute! It sounds like you are confusing web development with software development! Even though they both use html, css and java only software development uses asp.net/jsp. ASP.net is software development because unlike the language mentioned previously it is a framework. The languages used with it are Visual Basic or C#.

[akhileshbc]

Since you know VB, I think, ASP.Net with VB would be an easy one for you.

And if you wanted, you could try PHP. It's like C style syntax, but easy to get a grip.

I was at first playing with VB6, then decided to move onto VB.Net. Then quickly moved to PHP.

At that time, I thought PHP is a way too higher than I could climb. Because when I checked the PHP manual, it looked like a ghost house.
And I never even bothered to read the tutorials or code samples since I had this feeling in my mind. Later decided to give it a try and with the help of we3school's PHP tutorials(which are written in pretty basic way), I was able to get the basics. Now I am in love with PHP rather than VB.

[dday9]

Wait a minute! It sounds like you are confusing web development with software development!

It sounds like I am. I'm sorry, I didn't know the differance between the two :P I think that I may try to jump into php. I would like to work with more of a C language. But I have heard not to work with java, because it could take 6 lines to show a string :P

[Zeuz]

If you are terrible at the visual side of this I wouldn't bother!

Hope you even use OOP with PHP code you write.

[Nightwalker83]

No because from what I have heard it can be a pain to convert object oriented code so that it works in php. php is not an oo language.

[brad jones]

In my opinion...
web development is a form of software development.


As to the focus of this thread - web develompent, I believe the comments of doing ASP.NET make sense based on you knowing some VB already.

Of course, if I were recommending a path today for someone that wanted to focus on the web, I'd suggest starting with HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript. While the hardcore coders on this forum are going to to go drop their jaw at this suggestion, it is a good suggestion for a variety of reasons. One is that your web app is likely to be more compatible across the variety of browsers. Additionally, this knowledge will be usable for mobile and Windows 8 apps as well. Even if you use PHP or ASP.NET, you'd still likely be messing with some HTML, CSS, and Javascript anyway.

Just a thought....

Brad!