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Thread: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

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    NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    I just read an article on Digg that said the Director of the US National Security Administration (NSA) is concerned that the hacktivist group "Anonymous" may attack the US power grid in a couple years.

    While I can respect their opinions, I believe they and all the hacktivists group - including, but not limited to, "LulzSec," who was apparently going to launch an attack on US national banks that have Websites for online account management - should be hunted down and arrested.
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    In a couple of years?!?

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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    There are a few crimes that you can be arrested for attempting, but I'm not sure that you can arrest an organization, only individuals. Anybody who does take down the power grid deliberately has certainly committed a crime, but they might be a bit hard to identify. I doubt it will be easy to bring the case, but I have no doubt that it will be brought if they take noticeable action.
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    Quote Originally Posted by moonman239 View Post
    hacktivist group "Anonymous" may attack the US power grid in a couple years.
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    What any government official or representative says really should be taken with a pinch of salt. While such statements have an element of truth, they are almost always embellished.

    Additionally, why is the NSA telling everyone this in a public statement (apparently)? Ah, somehow these statements have been 'leaked' as it was private briefings. This is a lot like Chinese Whispers with the media spinning it the way they need.

    Just like the 6 o'clock news: "YOUR CHILDREN ARE ABOUT TO DIE!!! ... More at 11"
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid
    NSA telling everyone this in a public statement
    I did no such thing!, definitely not in public anyway.
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    Quote Originally Posted by NeedSomeAnswers View Post
    I did no such thing!, definitely not in public anyway.
    Good one! Now, let's be serious.
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    I think it's just scare tactics.

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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    Suspecting that someone may commit a crime is not valid cause for arrest (unless you can provide proof of conspiracy), nor is disagreeing with their opinion/position. Aside from that, it wouldn't work: if you arrested every single person who currently constitutes Anonymous, you'd just have an entirely new Anonymous to contend with.

    And if Anonymous were to significantly damage our power grid, I'd be blaming those in charge of its security who failed to protect it.

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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    Quote Originally Posted by SambaNeko View Post
    Suspecting that someone may commit a crime is not valid cause for arrest (unless you can provide proof of conspiracy), nor is disagreeing with their opinion/position.
    I never said they should be arrested because they might commit a crime or because I disagree. What I mean is, I assume they already did something wrong since they're hacktivists. If I am correct, then they deserve to be arrested.

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    Aside from that, it wouldn't work: if you arrested every single person who currently constitutes Anonymous, you'd just have an entirely new Anonymous to contend with.
    Maybe not. But at least the original "Anonymous" would be arrested.

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    And if Anonymous were to significantly damage our power grid, I'd be blaming those in charge of its security who failed to protect it.
    There is a comment on that article that says the NSA also knew about the 9/11 before it happened, yet the agency didn't do anything about it.
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    What I mean is, I assume they already did something wrong since they're hacktivists. If I am correct, then they deserve to be arrested.
    Yes i fully agree we should in fact bring in a new law which allows the arrest of people assumed to already have done something wrong !

    Good one! Now, let's be serious.
    I find this very difficult with some of your posts !!!

    There is a comment on that article that says the NSA also knew about the 9/11 before it happened
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    When the power grid is down, "Anonymous" is out of business too. So they are digging their own grave?

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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    With so many ICS/SCADA systems connected to the Internet, it wouldn't be surprising.

    And "Anonymous" isn't a specific group of people. It's a "brand" or "label" that people apply when engaging in activism (or by people that want to make it look like something was done by "Anonymous"). In any case, the people engaging in the "anonymous" activities are most likely just peons for the real people running the show.
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

    A movie?
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    Re: NSA warns "Anonymous" could attack US power grid

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