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    Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Is it possible to play flash without flash-player installed? I heard that SWF file and flash player itself may be included into one EXE file. It cannot be decised with creating projector. Please Help!

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Is it possible to play flash without flash-player installed?
    I am gonna stick my neck out and say No, Funnily enough You need the Player to Play the .swf file.
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

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    I am gonna stick my neck out and say No, Funnily enough You need the Player to Play the .swf file.
    No, you are incorrect! You can create your own flash player and to do that all you need apart from a programming language is the .ocx. Which is installed with flash player anyway but can be used to make a flash player here is a basic flash player I created in VB6.0.
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    And how about Flajector? One friend advised me it.

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    I wouldn't know because I have never used it! Wouldn't that be the same as creating a projector in Flash anyway?
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Of course you can. So many ways. Previously required to have a flash player on your computer to play flash. Now everything has changed.
    Regarding flajector - an interesting application. Flash developers in my office use it. As far as I know, then it can be used to convert SWF to EXE.

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightwalker83 View Post
    No, you are incorrect! You can create your own flash player and to do that all you need apart from a programming language is the .ocx. Which is installed with flash player anyway but can be used to make a flash player here is a basic flash player I created in VB6.0.
    If you check you will find that redistributing this product requires (a.) a developer license from Adobe, and (b.) even then the licensing terms require that you redistribute the entire Flash installer and do not suppress the "user experience" (i.e. installer dialogs).

    Anything less is piracy, plain and simple.

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    No, you are incorrect! You can create your own flash player and to do that all you need apart from a programming language is the .ocx. Which is installed with flash player anyway
    So you need the Flash Player then !!! that .ocx you are talking about is part of the Flash Player

    And how about Flajector? One friend advised me it.
    Now I hadn't hear of that, sounds like the answer the OP is looking for.
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Well, considering this thread is over two years old and dilettante already warned me about it in my thread above it is pointless in continuing the arguement. I still haven't been able to find a 100% free version of what that .ocx does.
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Well, getting a license from Adobe seems to be free, you just have to apply and get accepted and then stick to their redistribution requirements.

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    Well, getting a license from Adobe seems to be free, you just have to apply and get accepted and then stick to their redistribution requirements.
    I'm still trying to get my head around the point of someone creating their own flash player needing to install Adobe's Flash player in-order for theirs to work. They wouldn't need to create their own because Adobe has already it for them. It's a pity that Adobe doesn't allow for each component to be lincensed seperately and used without flash player.
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    guys, you're wrong. You can pack the Flash player together with your files.
    I did this with flajector and f-in-boks many times

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Quote Originally Posted by MastAvalons View Post
    guys, you're wrong. You can pack the Flash player together with your files.
    I did this with flajector and f-in-boks many times
    Wrong on what count? Are you referring to post #4?
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightwalker83 View Post
    I'm still trying to get my head around the point of someone creating their own flash player needing to install Adobe's Flash player in-order for theirs to work. They wouldn't need to create their own because Adobe has already it for them. It's a pity that Adobe doesn't allow for each component to be lincensed seperately and used without flash player.
    There were a number of people back in the day ceating winzip clones in order to add compression etc to their applications ... so I guess anything is possible.

    I'm not aware of needing Adobe licencing for swf players, could be wrong of course.
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Daroncha is right, it is possible.
    3 years ago it was not possible. 2 years ago it was very difficult. but now there are different ways to do it.
    I like that I can use the flash without the flash player!it is comfortably, in some cases it is necessary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiDexter View Post
    I'm not aware of needing Adobe licencing for swf players, could be wrong of course.
    Yeah and I never heard of gravity so I'm exempt too!

    http://www.adobe.com/licensing/


    Of course that has no impact of Flash players that don't use Adobe's software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MastAvalons View Post
    guys, you're wrong. You can pack the Flash player together with your files.
    I did this with flajector and f-in-boks many times
    Illegal!

    Licensee must use the installers as-is without modification.
    http://www.adobe.com/products/player...tribution.html
    Last edited by dilettante; Apr 26th, 2012 at 11:52 AM.

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    My head might explode from this dispute!
    We must turn to the experts ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pig View Post
    My head might explode from this dispute!
    We must turn to the experts ...
    Read the link dilettante posted in post #16. That is from the experts!
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    I'm not sure what the big deal is anyway.

    Just require that your users have Flash installed as a prerequisite, or else aply for a license (pretty sure it is free) and abide by the redistribution terms (provide the user with the full Flash installer, make them opt in to installing by clicking something clearly labeled as installing Flash, don't suppress any of the Flash installer dialogs).

    Sounds easy enough.

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    I'm sure the owners of flajector and f-in-box take care of legal side of the issue

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    Nightwalker83, you're too hot! As for me - the main thing is that the program works. Personally for me the rest does not make sense.

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    Yeah and I never heard of gravity so I'm exempt too!

    http://www.adobe.com/licensing/


    Of course that has no impact of Flash players that don't use Adobe's software.
    Strangely Adobe doesn't own the licence to every SWF player, ergo you don't need an Adobe licence if going down that path apparently. Haven't tried myself to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiDexter View Post
    Strangely Adobe doesn't own the licence to every SWF player, ergo you don't need an Adobe licence if going down that path apparently. Haven't tried myself to be honest.

    I agree with you.

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightwalker83 View Post
    Read the link dilettante posted in post #16. That is from the experts!
    ... but you're wrong

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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Quote Originally Posted by MastAvalons View Post
    ... but you're wrong
    If you are referring to the use of HTML5 then I guess I am other than that I'm right.
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    Quote Originally Posted by MastAvalons View Post
    I'm sure the owners of flajector and f-in-box take care of legal side of the issue
    Nothing that I've seen prevents you from handling Flash using your own code. The only restrictions I've seen are those around the use of Adobe's components.

    This entire thread was about the use of Adobe's components, what the first post calls "the flash player itself."

    If you can roll your own or find somebody else's (open source, cheap royalty-free license, etc.) then as far as I can tell you're free to do as you please. I haven't seen any kind of licensing requirement around the data format itself.
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    Re: Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

    I think you are right

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