Play SWF without flash player installed (not creating projector)

[Daroncha]

Is it possible to play flash without flash-player installed? I heard that SWF file and flash player itself may be included into one EXE file. It cannot be decised with creating projector. Please Help!

[NeedSomeAnswers]

Is it possible to play flash without flash-player installed?

I am gonna stick my neck out and say No, Funnily enough You need the Player to Play the .swf file.

[Nightwalker83]

I am gonna stick my neck out and say No, Funnily enough You need the Player to Play the .swf file.

No, you are incorrect! You can create your own flash player and to do that all you need apart from a programming language is the .ocx. Which is installed with flash player anyway but can be used to make a flash player here is a basic flash player I created in VB6.0.

[dilettante]

No, you are incorrect! You can create your own flash player and to do that all you need apart from a programming language is the .ocx. Which is installed with flash player anyway but can be used to make a flash player here is a basic flash player I created in VB6.0.

If you check you will find that redistributing this product requires (a.) a developer license from Adobe, and (b.) even then the licensing terms require that you redistribute the entire Flash installer and do not suppress the "user experience" (i.e. installer dialogs).

Anything less is piracy, plain and simple.

[Daroncha]

And how about Flajector? One friend advised me it.

[Nightwalker83]

I wouldn't know because I have never used it! Wouldn't that be the same as creating a projector in Flash anyway?

[MastAvalons]

Of course you can. So many ways. Previously required to have a flash player on your computer to play flash. Now everything has changed.
Regarding flajector - an interesting application. Flash developers in my office use it. As far as I know, then it can be used to convert SWF to EXE.

[NeedSomeAnswers]

No, you are incorrect! You can create your own flash player and to do that all you need apart from a programming language is the .ocx. Which is installed with flash player anyway

So you need the Flash Player then !!! that .ocx you are talking about is part of the Flash Player

And how about Flajector? One friend advised me it.

Now I hadn't hear of that, sounds like the answer the OP is looking for.

[Nightwalker83]

Well, considering this thread is over two years old and dilettante already warned me about it in my thread above it is pointless in continuing the arguement. I still haven't been able to find a 100% free version of what that .ocx does.

[dilettante]

Well, getting a license from Adobe seems to be free, you just have to apply and get accepted and then stick to their redistribution requirements.

[Nightwalker83]

Well, getting a license from Adobe seems to be free, you just have to apply and get accepted and then stick to their redistribution requirements.

I'm still trying to get my head around the point of someone creating their own flash player needing to install Adobe's Flash player in-order for theirs to work. They wouldn't need to create their own because Adobe has already it for them. It's a pity that Adobe doesn't allow for each component to be lincensed seperately and used without flash player.

[KiwiDexter]

I'm still trying to get my head around the point of someone creating their own flash player needing to install Adobe's Flash player in-order for theirs to work. They wouldn't need to create their own because Adobe has already it for them. It's a pity that Adobe doesn't allow for each component to be lincensed seperately and used without flash player.

There were a number of people back in the day ceating winzip clones in order to add compression etc to their applications ... so I guess anything is possible.

I'm not aware of needing Adobe licencing for swf players, could be wrong of course.

[dilettante]

I'm not aware of needing Adobe licencing for swf players, could be wrong of course.

Yeah and I never heard of gravity so I'm exempt too!

http://www.adobe.com/licensing/


Of course that has no impact of Flash players that don't use Adobe's software.

[KiwiDexter]

Yeah and I never heard of gravity so I'm exempt too!

http://www.adobe.com/licensing/


Of course that has no impact of Flash players that don't use Adobe's software.

Strangely Adobe doesn't own the licence to every SWF player, ergo you don't need an Adobe licence if going down that path apparently. Haven't tried myself to be honest.

[MastAvalons]

guys, you're wrong. You can pack the Flash player together with your files.
I did this with flajector and f-in-boks many times

[Nightwalker83]

guys, you're wrong. You can pack the Flash player together with your files.
I did this with flajector and f-in-boks many times

Wrong on what count? Are you referring to post #4?

[dilettante]

guys, you're wrong. You can pack the Flash player together with your files.
I did this with flajector and f-in-boks many times

Illegal!

Licensee must use the installers as-is without modification.

http://www.adobe.com/products/player...tribution.html

[MastAvalons]

Illegal!


http://www.adobe.com/products/player...tribution.html

I'm sure the owners of flajector and f-in-box take care of legal side of the issue

[dilettante]

I'm sure the owners of flajector and f-in-box take care of legal side of the issue

Nothing that I've seen prevents you from handling Flash using your own code. The only restrictions I've seen are those around the use of Adobe's components.

This entire thread was about the use of Adobe's components, what the first post calls "the flash player itself."

If you can roll your own or find somebody else's (open source, cheap royalty-free license, etc.) then as far as I can tell you're free to do as you please. I haven't seen any kind of licensing requirement around the data format itself.

[Big Pig]

Daroncha is right, it is possible.
3 years ago it was not possible. 2 years ago it was very difficult. but now there are different ways to do it.
I like that I can use the flash without the flash player!it is comfortably, in some cases it is necessary!

[Big Pig]

My head might explode from this dispute!
We must turn to the experts ...

[Nightwalker83]

My head might explode from this dispute!
We must turn to the experts ...

Read the link dilettante posted in post #16. That is from the experts!

[MastAvalons]

Read the link dilettante posted in post #16. That is from the experts!

... but you're wrong

[Nightwalker83]

... but you're wrong

If you are referring to the use of HTML5 then I guess I am other than that I'm right.

[dilettante]

I'm not sure what the big deal is anyway.

Just require that your users have Flash installed as a prerequisite, or else aply for a license (pretty sure it is free) and abide by the redistribution terms (provide the user with the full Flash installer, make them opt in to installing by clicking something clearly labeled as installing Flash, don't suppress any of the Flash installer dialogs).

Sounds easy enough.

[Big Pig]

Nightwalker83, you're too hot! As for me - the main thing is that the program works. Personally for me the rest does not make sense.

[MastAvalons]

I think you are right