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    Mumbai attacks



    101 dead at this point, 250 wounded.

    My condolences and support to our Indian friends.
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    It's a horrible, horrible thing.

    Mumbai's one of my favourite cities in the world. I visited there with my family last year; we had dinner in the Oberoi hotel a couple of times, and had a couple of lunches at the Leopold Café. We spent a few hours at the railway station (VT) as well, watching the dabbawallahs. The first two places are full of Westerners (no doubt the main targets), but we were pretty much the only white people at VT when we went. Quite why they went in there and stated shooting is beyond me. Presumably they're going for places that tourists have heard of.

    I honestly don't know what they're hoping to achieve. Surely they can't imagine that this would help their cause, whatever it may be.
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    I honestly don't know what they're hoping to achieve
    All I've heard so far is that they were asking for a number of political prisoners to be released. I can't believe that's all there is to it, though, as this was an extremely well organised attack (7 places simultaneously). My guess is it's aimed either at disrupting the upcoming Indian Election or testing Obama as the new President Elect of the US.
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    You're thinking too globally. In virtually every attack, such as 9/11, one of the overriding motivations was to demonstrate your capability. This demonstration is not meant for your opponents as much as it is for your supporters. These groups need a large amount of money and a large number of enthusiastic recruits. Since they have no intrinsic financial ability (they sell nothing but idealism), their very existence relies on contributions of money, material, and manpower. Attacks like this have a variety of stated goals, but the ultimate purpose is simple advertising to bring in that which they need to continue existence. Take away any of the three Ms (Money, Manpower (a recruiting base), or Material (including mobility)), and the group will fade out. Leave those three pillars untouched and the group can never be stopped simply because they can attack ANYWHERE, and as long as they are visible, they get credit for the attack.
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    Re: Mumbai attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
    In virtually every attack, such as 9/11, one of the overriding motivations was to demonstrate your capability. This demonstration is not meant for your opponents as much as it is for your supporters.
    More on these lines:
    Al Qaeda's Fantasy Ideology, by Lee Harris

    A thought-provoking article, whether it holds any truth or not.

    Notice how often, immediately after a terrorist attack, one or two groups falsely claim credit for it.

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    Re: Mumbai attacks

    Israeli Proverb: All politics are local politics.


    The more you think about it, the more you see this is true in all places. It is individuals making decisions, even if they decide in committees. How many decisions are made based largely on the fact that several participants drank too much coffee and are desperately in need of resolution?

    There is no group so wise that they consider all aspects without bringing along their own personal baggage. In the case of all groups, a certain element will always be considering the long term viability of the group, rather than just the cause. That's life.
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    This is all the result of this ]...[ Indian Govt policy who have gone soft on the terrorists. When all other countries are making their laws tighter to counter them, these people scraped away POTA law which was specifically meant to fight terrorism.
    The country is ruled by a prime minister who takes orders from this italian lady and to whom none of his ministers give a ]...[
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    Re: Mumbai attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Pradeep1210
    This is all the result of this ]...[ Indian Govt policy who have gone soft on the terrorists. When all other countries are making their laws tighter to counter them, these people scraped away POTA law which was specifically meant to fight terrorism.
    The country is ruled by a prime minister who takes orders from this italian lady and to whom none of his ministers give a ]...[
    Agreed. Democracy in action is a wonderful thing, democracy in name only does not work and never will. Enact martial law, keep the politicians as well as the terrorists in check for 6 months to a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demotivater
    Agreed. Democracy in action is a wonderful thing, democracy in name only does not work and never will. Enact martial law, keep the politicians as well as the terrorists in check for 6 months to a year.
    Though, we could do with less of both, Martial Law is not really a solution.
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