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    3 6.52%
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  • Firefox (identified as Mozilla before 2005)

    27 58.70%
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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    IE7

    And I've got IE8 on one workstation...

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    There was no multiple choice questions.

    I would've also chose Google Chrome, Opera, IE7, and IE8.

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    Opera.
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    Firefox 3 has proven itself to be the ultimate assistance in web development. I'd be an idiot not to use it.

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    I don't want to derail marty's thread here - he's looking for browser stats...

    @timeshifter...

    Are you saying you use FF3 to test all your web development for production use?

    Are you using IE8 to proof your web development as well?

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    I build my sites in Fx, because it has so many tools that help me pin down any issues very quickly. Once I have it doing what it needs to, I go back in IE7 and handle any stray CSS issues. I pride my sites in being fully cross-browser compatible.

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Quote Originally Posted by timeshifter
    I build my sites in Fx, because it has so many tools that help me pin down any issues very quickly.
    You have you love Firebug, it's great!!!

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    Firebug, Web Developer, Color Picker, IETab... all wonderful tools

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    About 2/3rd's use FF. Is that the global average or are we just special? I thought the various versions of IE had something like 70% of the browser market or did I just make that number up before Kregg did?
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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Sadly, IE still holds the majority of the market. I'd bet the reason the numbers are so much higher for Fx on this forum is because the people who do web development know that Fx is without question the superior tool for the job.

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Quote Originally Posted by timeshifter
    Firebug, Web Developer, Color Picker, IETab... all wonderful tools
    I just tried to find the Color Picker that you made mention of, but couldn't find it. I currently use pixie. And not a FF tool, but this ruler is very handy!! Already had the other tools installed

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    I'm using FF3 as my primary Web Browser.
    IE and Opera for testing.

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Quote Originally Posted by Foxer
    About 2/3rd's use FF. Is that the global average or are we just special? I thought the various versions of IE had something like 70% of the browser market or did I just make that number up before Kregg did?
    I think (but am not sure that) IE is down to under 50% now.

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    I will Go with IE,Chrome,Opera
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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Quote Originally Posted by Foxer
    ... did I just make that number up before Kregg did?
    What do you mean by that?

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    IE7 or FF... it's a 50/50 split really, just whichever icon catches my eye first.


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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    @kregg...

    That link is accurate - info like this has been discussed in the investment papers for the past couple of weeks - since Google announced Chrome.

    The only big players are IE - they have 75% market. Then FF has nearly 20%.

    The others are fluff - not players at all.

    The point in the papers has been that Google has enough muscle to move Chrome into a 20% share like FF has done by itself over the past 2 or 3 years.

    I guess if you want to believe things like this you would then run and buy shares of Google...

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Quote Originally Posted by szlamany
    The others are fluff - not players at all.
    I wouldn't go as far to say that they are all fluff - remember, they all have some portion of the market, and they are all in competition with Microsoft and Mozilla.

    OK, so they won't really make such a big dent in their market, but it's a portion of the market share that isn't theirs anymore. In a business, I would've thought that every consumer counts, and brand loyalty is important - if shiny browsers come in the way, then IE will have to buff their browser a bit more.

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    Marty, why not just grep VBF's php access log file to get the user agent strings then sort them, count them and then you'll have a correct spectrum of browser usage.

    You could do this on a forum by forum level too.

    This poll is a browser flame war waiting to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wossname
    Marty, why not just grep VBF's php access log file to get the user agent strings then sort them, count them and then you'll have a correct spectrum of browser usage.

    You could do this on a forum by forum level too.

    This poll is a browser flame war waiting to happen.
    I don't have that ability.

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Presumably the original reason for the poll was in order to tune the content in VBF to make it a better experience for the majority of people that use browser X?

    Or are you just being nosey?

    I imagine the people who do have access to the logs will be happy to provide you with these stats, as long as they are anonymous. I can't see any legal problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kregg
    ...In a business, I would've thought that every consumer counts, and brand loyalty is important...
    Back in the 80's Pepsi and Coke had contracts with the grocery stores - each one bought 26 weeks of "end of the isle" display space. They alternated in some fashion.

    I'm not sure that this is done anymore...

    So when RC Cola came along they could only get "in-isle" display space...

    The big boys make the rules and play their own game - the others are ignored.

    You are always going to have consumers that don't go Pepsi or Coke - they don't care about those consumers - they were lost anyway.

    But the battle between Pepsi and Coke - that's the real war they fight...

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Quote Originally Posted by wossname
    Presumably the original reason for the poll was in order to tune the content in VBF to make it a better experience for the majority of people that use browser X?

    Or are you just being nosey?
    A little of both but the main reason has to do with a very small change we'd like to make that doesn't work with IE6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinLiss
    A little of both but the main reason has to do with a very small change we'd like to make that doesn't work with IE6.
    Have you all seen how the forum mis-behaves with IE8?

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    [Injured loyalty]IE8 misbehaves with the forum, not the other way around.[/IL]
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    I have twin 7 years old boys - when they misbehave it's a team effort

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    @marty - funny you should mention IE6. I just had a client instruct me to log into their FTP site to grab a file. I tried with IE7 to no avail - wouldn't get the un/pw pop-up. They finally told me it only worked with IE6...

    I was lucky enough to get around it with a real GUI FTP client tool...

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Firefox 3

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    IE6 (work), IE7 (laptop), IE8 (dev), Safari, Chrome

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    I liked the ftp support in IE 6, but let's face it, there are free and better alternatives out there on teh intarwebs.

    (I still miss my IE6 FTP feature )

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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    31 replies and no one has yet mentioned the fact that Survey has been spelt Servey. Closest to a sigh smilie.

    So Martin, as one of the only 2 IE6 users here so far, might I enquire as to
    the nature of the change you are planning that will not work with IE6.
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    Re: A Serious Servey Concerning Your Browser

    Quote Originally Posted by kregg
    I liked the ftp support in IE 6, but let's face it, there are free and better alternatives out there on teh intarwebs.

    (I still miss my IE6 FTP feature )

    they just moved it from Internet Explorer to Windows Explorer.

    Open up a windows explorer window and type an ftp address in the addressbar, it works just like IE6 did.
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    can you believe it ? I have only heard about "opera" yesterday,
    there are currently more than 2000 browsers available.

    I think google chrome may be the next big thing, its a matter of branding.

    lets all make a browser together, lets call it "vbforum browser".

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    2000 browsers available? I doubt it.. There may be that many using other browsers engines.. I mean anyone and their mom can plop a webbrowser control on a winform in .NET and call it a browser if they want, but its still IE.
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    Why am I the only one that has voted for chrome? Doesn't anyone else want to give google even more access into their personal lives?
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