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    I had to Google Edward de Bono. He has some interesting ideas. From Wikipedia:

    In 2000, de Bono advised a UK Foreign Office committee that the Arab–Israeli conflict might be due, in part, to low levels of zinc found in people who eat unleavened bread (e.g. pita flatbread). De Bono argues that low zinc levels leads to heightened aggression. He suggested shipping out jars of Marmite to compensate.[7][8]

    Edward de Bono argued that companies could raise money just as governments now do – by printing it. He put forward the idea of private currency as a claim on products or services produced by the issuer. So IBM might issue “IBM Dollars” – theoretically redeemable for IBM equipment, but also practically tradable for other vouchers or cash. To make such a scheme work, IBM would have to learn to manage the supply of money to ensure that – with too many vouchers chasing too few goods – inflation does not destroy the value of their creations. But companies should be able to manage that trick at least as easily as governments do, particularly as they don’t have voters to cope with.
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    Those private currencies exist here and there. The major issue I have with them is that, if they ever became widely accepted, they would be super easy to counterfeit unless extraordinary design measures were taken, which would in turn render the script as useless as JavaScript on an abacus.
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    I may have a paid programming job, however...
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    It appears to be a large and time consuming project.
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    Also, I don't know if the guy will be able to afford the bid that I'd give him.
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    ??????

    Not fair - you post too fast....

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    How did you turn come up with the coding task list and how did you convert that into man hours?

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    I'm getting killed by conversion of data problems with one of my current jobs...

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    I figured that it would take me roughly two work weeks(80 hours) to complete the project and I'd bill at $20 an hour(I wanted to be cheap).
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    Also, moderators don't have a 30 second wait period.
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    So I can do quick post.
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    Like This.
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    You're seriously under pricing yourself there DD. You can pretty much double (or more) a typical "employed" salary to get a direct "provide a service" rate. Mind you, if it helps you get a few early contracts and build up a portfolio then go for it but always keep in the back of your mind that you're worth a lot more.

    Wow, I'm on holiday in Greece and I found time to post on VBF. Now that's some seriously mucked up priorities.
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    Sometimes when I want to give a deal to a first time client I do a "courtesy discount" of so much money.

    That way a precedent is not set for you hourly rate.

    Why not charge $25 and give a $5/hr first time client courtesy discount?

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    how did you convert that into man hours
    Personally I never do. At least, not formally. I give my clients an estimate based on gut feel but I always make it clear that it is an estimate and may go up or down. I almost always seem to deliver in less time anyway so my clients are pretty pleased. Apart from anything, if you give a hard quote the client usually subtly changes the spec anyway.
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    I actually gave him an option of $20 an hour or a flat $1,500 and told him that it will take me around 80 hours to finish, although considering how time consuming the project is I'm afraid that it could go over 80 hours.

    Whenever I gave him that price he told me that it was out of his price range and that he's wanting to get this application rewritten and distribute it not for profit. So him and somebody else are basically ponying up money for me to remake their favorite video game that was discontinued.

    I'm actually at the point where I don't want to start this project and then they back out at the last minute because of the price because like I said, this is going to take up a lot of my time.
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    today i dont feel doing anything! im not in mood to play video games! not in mood to code! not in mood to do penetration testing! not in mood to answer my phone calls & messages! idk why im writting this anyway ! do you ?
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    Because you're in the mood to contribute to the post race.
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    guess so!
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    The race is running too fast. I was going to quote post #59447, and modify the job to being a male stripper. Interestingly, pretty nearly all of the subsequent posts fit just as well with that job title, but they become more entertaining.
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    That gave me a good lol
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    Of course I don't really laugh out loud, more like I give a brief shot of air out my nostrils.
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    I alternate giving a brief shot of air out each nostril.

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    I go for more than just those two orifices.
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    I change upwards of $250/hour for my services. We won't discuss those services however.
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    Sunday night I made 50 bucks playing harmonica for two hours. Not quite dclamp money, but you take what you can get.
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    I drink and play pool.
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    Thabk God for iPhone autocorrect.
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    I sound like not drink
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    Belly.
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    Pffffggggfff
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    Radberrybb
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    This race has not ran since yesterday!
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    Once upon a time, there was a momma with twin sons named Boudreaux and Thibodeaux. Boudreaux was extremely optimistic where as Thibodeaux was extremely pessimistic. As the twins grew older, momma became concerned because Thibodeaux was having issues getting friends because of his pessimism so she decided to bring the twins to a psychiatrist.

    Whenever momma got pulled up to the psychiatrist's office, Boudreaux jumped out of the car and the psychiatrist asked him "hey little boy, would you like a sucker?" and Boudreaux replied excitedly "Oh boy sure!" Well Thibodeaux did not want to get out of the car and momma had to practically pull him out and when he approached the psychiatrist, the psychiatrist asked Thibodeaux the same question "hey little boy, would you like a sucker?" Thibodeaux shouted back "I'm not a little boy and I hate suckers!" and scooted away.

    The psychiatrist then explained to momma that his method is to take optimistic children and place them into an area of negativity to gauge how optimistic they really are or if they're faking it and take pessimistic children and place them into an area of positivity to try to encourage them. So the psychiatrist walked Boudreaux and placed him in a room full of manure and locked him in. The psychiatrist then walked Thibodeaux into a room full of toys and candy and locked him into the room.

    Momma patiently waited for 30 minutes until the time was up and practically ran to see if it worked on Thibodeaux. Whenever she opened the door she saw candy scattered every where and toys ripped apart. She turned to the psychiatrist and said "Oh no, what is to be of my poor Boudreaux?!" and sprinted to the room where Boudreaux was. Whenever she opened door, Boudreaux was clearing the manure into separate piles and had crap all in his hair, teeth, and body. When the mom asked why is he doing this(assuming he had gone crazy) and Boudreaux replied "Momma, with all this crap there is bound to be a pony somewhere!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by dday9 View Post
    This race has not ran since yesterday!
    Oh NOEZ!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dday9 View Post
    Once upon a time, there was a momma with twin sons named Boudreaux and Thibodeaux.
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    Boudreaux and Thibodeaux jokes are in Louisiana's culture.
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    Boudreaux sounds like:
    b - Like bat
    oo - Like food
    d - Like dog
    row - Like row
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