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Considering this forum doesnt have a high amount of inquiries in those fields, it doesnt seem like it would justify the need to have one. You could easily fit those into more general forums like General PC, General Developer, Database Design, etc.
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dclamp
Considering this forum doesnt have a high amount of inquiries in those fields, it doesnt seem like it would justify the need to have one. You could easily fit those into more general forums like General PC, General Developer, Database Design, etc.
Security needs to be encouraged because people who write insecure code can affect us all. And it's a very large topic with many components. I could see that forum taking off.
Companies and governments alike are starting to acknowledge that computer security is a real big problem. In a basic nutshell, there is going to be more security jobs in our future.
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Perhaps you should bring this up in the Forum Feedback section. Have Brad give his input.
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I certainly think that it's an interesting topic, but I'm not sure that it would gain all that much traction. After all, the bulk of posts seem to be from students, which might not have much of a following in security. On the other hand, it might be about as active as General Developer, which wouldn't be too bad.
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I certainly think that it's an interesting topic, but I'm not sure that it would gain all that much traction.
While I agree that the topics are interesting and critical, Shaggy sums it up. I'm not sure how much traffic it would drive. If this is something that will only drive a few threads, then we are better to place the discussions within an existing forum.
I suggest that a few discussions be started in General PC or the current, existing most relevant forum and lets see what traction happens. If it can be shown that people will discuss these topics, then we'll see about rolling them into their own area.
In the mean time.... Mavin - if you feel these need more coverage, I'd be willing to commission a couple of articles to be posted on Developer.com on topics within these areas. If you are qualified to write on these topics or have a person that is qualified, then send me a title and short description of the articles you would like to create and we can go from there!
Brad!
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While I agree that the topics are interesting and critical, Shaggy sums it up. I'm not sure how much traffic it would drive. If this is something that will only drive a few threads, then we are better to place the discussions within an existing forum.
I suggest that a few discussions be started in General PC or the current, existing most relevant forum and lets see what traction happens. If it can be shown that people will discuss these topics, then we'll see about rolling them into their own area.
In the mean time.... Mavin - if you feel these need more coverage, I'd be willing to commission a couple of articles to be posted on Developer.com on topics within these areas. If you are qualified to write on these topics or have a person that is qualified, then send me a title and short description of the articles you would like to create and we can go from there!
Brad!
I sent you a PM.
But yes, I think the issue is becoming increasingly important to address. Maybe writing some articles would be a good way to introduce security concepts to the community. At any rate, we are in a situation today where security holes are opening much faster than computer scientists can close them. And all of this comes at a time when very sophisticated hacking teams are operating internationally.
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There are problems with both of these issues:
Computer law - there are very few lawyers who would post; everyone will basically refer you to a lawyer, even where the situation (e.g. reading an EULA) is clear as day. We could discuss it until we are blue in the face. General developer forum would be a good place for the rare law discussion, that is productive.
Security - who is going to discuss 'how' viruses work? You cannot have a reasonable discussion about computer security with disseminating the specifics of how malware, viruses, etc. do their job (sic). I'd love to see the specifics of certain viruses, so that combatting them can be more effective - we have all seen the 'dive by' warnings, but I'm mystified how these viruses actually work, since 'code execution' is the only way a virus can work. The Stuxnet details are quite fascinating in it's dissection as it directly affected some of the work I do.
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There are problems with both of these issues:
Computer law - there are very few lawyers who would post; everyone will basically refer you to a lawyer, even where the situation (e.g. reading an EULA) is clear as day. We could discuss it until we are blue in the face. General developer forum would be a good place for the rare law discussion, that is productive.
Security - who is going to discuss 'how' viruses work? You cannot have a reasonable discussion about computer security with disseminating the specifics of how malware, viruses, etc. do their job (sic). I'd love to see the specifics of certain viruses, so that combatting them can be more effective - we have all seen the 'dive by' warnings, but I'm mystified how these viruses actually work, since 'code execution' is the only way a virus can work. The Stuxnet details are quite fascinating in it's dissection as it directly affected some of the work I do.
A lot of computer scientists take an elective in computer law. There is a difference between legal advice and knowledge of what is taking place in law. For example, Alice v. CLS Bank is an important case to watch; however, if you get sued for patent infringement, consult a lawyer. Law would be a good little sub topic like world events. What happens in law can have huge consequences for programmers in general.
Security is a very broad topic, and it's not limited to virus files. At any rate, why can't one have a discussion about them? I could write an article on a step by step demonstration of the aurora hack that drove Google out of China. The main problem with these kinds of articles is all of the setup required. You need to have virtual machines with many different operating systems. For example with Aurora, one would need an unpatched XP running on a virtual machine. College students could probably get everything they need through dreamspark, but I'm not sure about everyone else.
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I could write an article on a step by step demonstration of the aurora hack that drove Google out of China. The main problem with these kinds of articles is all of the setup required. You need to have virtual machines with many different operating systems. For example with Aurora, one would need an unpatched XP running on a virtual machine. College students could probably get everything they need through dreamspark, but I'm not sure about everyone else.
I am listening...
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I am listening...
I'll make a post on it in general developer.
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I'll make a post on it in general developer.
Ya, I'll be reading that one, too.
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Ya, I'll be reading that one, too.
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...-hacking-works
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Thanks. I am going to read it now.
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Is it just me... or is the link broken
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Is it just me... or is the link broken
I was going to say it was just you but sadly that is not the case! [Computer Security] Demonstration of the aurora hack: how hacking works. is the thread in question.
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I ended up visiting the other forum and found it.
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