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scsa20
Aug 11th, 2001, 08:59 PM
Can anyone tell me when is Windows XP coming out and how much it well cost?? Plus can you tell me if it's going to be better the all the other windows out there?? Thanks.

siyan
Aug 11th, 2001, 09:10 PM
Its gonna kick arse.

-C

Wynd
Aug 12th, 2001, 07:48 AM
I think it comes out October 25th.

filburt1
Aug 12th, 2001, 07:52 AM
MS hasn't disclosed the price.

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 07:56 AM
XP is crapola!

Only for pu$$ies who are still using WinME!

filburt1
Aug 12th, 2001, 07:59 AM
Justin, have you even USED Windows XP as a primary operating system for more than two weeks?

parksie
Aug 12th, 2001, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by filburt1
Justin, have you even USED Windows XP as a primary operating system for more than two weeks? You used it for two weeks!

AAAAAARRRGGGGGHHHHHH HE'S CONTRIBUTING TO THE SPREAD OF DOS ATTACKS DUE TO RAW SOCKET SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KILL HIM!!! MAIM HIS CHILDREN!!!

Kiddin' :) I'm sure you have a firewall :) The problem with raw sockets in a consumer OS (which doesn't include 2000's later addition) is that your average user won't have a firewall, or the knowledge of basic security.

filburt1
Aug 12th, 2001, 08:13 AM
ROTFLMAO, I wasn't connected to the net at the time, you silly. :p

parksie
Aug 12th, 2001, 08:17 AM
Silly computer user, the Internet is for kids ;)

filburt1
Aug 12th, 2001, 08:26 AM
Says the modem user. :p :D :D

parksie
Aug 12th, 2001, 08:30 AM
**** off :)

Although it's quite funny that BT are now millions in debt...HAHAHA TAKE THAT YOU GREEDY BASTARDS!!! BET YOU REGRET NOT GIVING US ADSL NOW, DON'T YA! HAHAHA!!!

:rolleyes:

parksie
Aug 12th, 2001, 08:31 AM
*cough*

I get over it by ranting away about how unlucky they are :D

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by filburt1
Justin, have you even USED Windows XP as a primary operating system for more than two weeks?

yeah..
not so much that it sucks but *** would i need it for

filburt1
Aug 12th, 2001, 08:42 AM
It looks cool. :D

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by filburt1
It looks cool. :D

Ack you are such a Dell-ite...:rolleyes: :p

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:43 AM
What's wrong with being a Dellite? I've bought lots of junk from Dell.

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:47 AM
ahem...filburt has a 200 watt PSU :p :p

seriosly if u want a real computing machine for a low price build yo own mofo :D :D :D

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:51 AM
I found that building 30 computers would be a waste of several weekends, so I ordered them from Dell. No regrets.

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by aknisely
I found that building 30 computers would be a waste of several weekends, so I ordered them from Dell. No regrets.

You have a good point...but that's for business probably...

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:54 AM
Business... well, yes I suppose! Business, of course!!

scsa20
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:55 AM
does anyone recomand to get Windows XP?? or just should I just stay with Windows Me??

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:56 AM
Get rid of Windows ME at your earliest convenience.

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:57 AM
30 PCs at home...man you must have 2 or 3 in every room! :D :D

jk

for business i can see buying a dell, as corporate users aren't exactly overclocking, crunching SETI, and playing Quake 3 on corporate machines. plus dell is reliable.

but for home? CB is a must! :)

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by scsa20
does anyone recomand to get Windows XP?? or just should I just stay with Windows Me??

if you own 98 or ME and have a small budget: get XP!
If you own 2000: don't bother!

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 09:59 AM
Well, assuming my home has ten rooms, yes that'd be mathematically accurate :eek:

I even put on 3 extra machines for the bosses to use at home.



So...



Pzah!!!

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:01 AM
Besides that, I get warranties and customer service from Dell.

scsa20
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by jpbtennisman


if you own 98 or ME and have a small budget: get XP!
If you own 2000: don't bother!

ok, I'll get XP whenever it gets out for public.

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:03 AM
It's been out in public for at least a year now...

scsa20
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:05 AM
the unbeta one, I meant

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:05 AM
It ships with Dell (etc) in september, and retail in october.

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by aknisely
Besides that, I get warranties and customer service from Dell.

manufacturers have warranties too :p and if they don't you buy a replacement component that is bigger and better

i never use customer service cuz i upgrade my OS anyway and sony tech spt sux0rz :p

i'd rather overclock and have optimal cooling and a 400w PSU

just a matter of personal preference i guess :D :D :D

scsa20
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:08 AM
all the computer Co. (like Dell and Hp) has it alreadly (well...I don't mean alreadly, but sooner)??

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:08 AM
You also like to steal music :)

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by scsa20
the unbeta one, I meant

cool new word, unbeta :D :D :D

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by aknisely
You also like to steal music :)

youre gettin ripped off, mofo ;)

scsa20
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by jpbtennisman


cool new word, unbeta :D :D :D

seems like you never heared the word "unbeta"

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by scsa20


seems like you never heared the word "unbeta"

it's called a final release, dummy :D :D

aknisely
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:19 AM
No I'm not. I think it's a sweet deal.

filburt1
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by aknisely
You also like to steal music :)

This isn't the thread for this, akinsely... :rolleyes:

scsa20
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by jpbtennisman


it's called a final release, dummy :D :D

Final Release, Unbeta Version; what's the differnts? :D

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:24 AM
unbeta could mean alpha :D :D :D

scsa20
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:26 AM
true, true

JungleMan
Aug 12th, 2001, 10:29 AM
yeawww

unbeta

i love that word :D :D :D

alex_read
Aug 13th, 2001, 08:25 AM
Useless - ignore it !

okay, I admit, I've been using it for about a month (pro & home editions). The actual one is out OCTOBER 25th & will be the same price as the others - £100 ish.

Leave it, everythings done for dumbasses - looks nice (questionable that bit) & hide all the functionality, MS have done a u turn & are basically saying "here you go, this os works, and there's lots of pretty screens you can look at, but you won't bugger this one up & call our support so much"


unbeta

i love that word
I like UMBONGO !

flufke
Aug 13th, 2001, 08:52 AM
WINDOWS XP SUCKS but
i will have the Windows XP Beta version tomorrow :) :)

nabeels786
Aug 13th, 2001, 10:51 AM
i heard XP was gonna be $30

according to the review of RC1 done by AnAndTech.com, it really really sucked. You need a machine that was 1.3x better to get the same performance.

im good with 2k. now only if i can get OpenGL to work...

filburt1
Aug 13th, 2001, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by nabeels786
i heard XP was gonna be $30

ROTFLMAO! An MS OS under $100? Yeah, right!

scsa20
Aug 13th, 2001, 01:13 PM
Microsoft Produnt (VB, VC, VS, VJ, OS, etc.) under $100!!! That's a new one on me.

JungleMan
Aug 13th, 2001, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by alex_read
Useless - ignore it !

okay, I admit, I've been using it for about a month (pro & home editions). The actual one is out OCTOBER 25th & will be the same price as the others - £100 ish.

Leave it, everythings done for dumbasses - looks nice (questionable that bit) & hide all the functionality, MS have done a u turn & are basically saying "here you go, this os works, and there's lots of pretty screens you can look at, but you won't bugger this one up & call our support so much"


I like UMBONGO !

right on, XP is Win2k for newbies who don't know their RAM from a floppy disk

Guv
Aug 13th, 2001, 06:30 PM
On a Tech forum i use, somebody said something like the following.They tried to make XP idiot proof and merely made it difficult to use.

BTW: Windows 98 SE seems to install with some option which does not show files in the Windows folder. Instead you get a Picture box which includes a message saying you can hurt the system by fooling with these files. There is a place to click if you want to see the files in spite of the warning. After you have viewed the files a few times, Explorer relents and displays the files just as for other folders.

Might XP get less idiot proof with use?

alex_read
Aug 13th, 2001, 11:06 PM
right on, XP is Win2k for newbies who don't know their RAM from a floppy disk
um, what's a floppy disk :eek: :D

Might XP get less idiot proof with use?

Not really Guv :rolleyes: , it saves the screens & options that you've been in before, so if you've managed to sieve through the crap & actually find the useful windows settings it's a bit easier the second time, but on the whole, not really.

win98 - best for games (ME's crap too)
win2000 - best for work

sorted !

prog_tom
Aug 13th, 2001, 11:49 PM
Well WinXP has 4 versions... Home Personal, Professional, Server, Advance Server.

in order of
$90-98
$199-213
$400-413
$1023-1040

No, it's not gonna be better than Win2k Pro.

DWillems
Aug 14th, 2001, 04:39 AM
What does XP stand for anyway ? Xtra Pathetic ? :p :p :p :p

HarryW
Aug 14th, 2001, 05:08 AM
Who in their right mind would want to run a server on XP?

After you have viewed the files a few times, Explorer relents and displays the files just as for other folders.

Might XP get less idiot proof with use?I've never found that it gets used to it, 98 just asks me every time unless I turn off the 'view folder as web page' option. Maybe I'm missing something? Win2k at least asks you only once, the first time after it starts that you go into the folder, and it doesn't ask you again unless you restart.

I doubt if XP will be any less protective than 98 already is, I am more inclined to expect double the number of warning screens.

I was quite annoyed when Win2k warned me 'there is no need to change these files' when I looked in Program Files for the first time. I find it mildly insulting somehow, as if it's saying I'm stupid.

alex_read
Aug 14th, 2001, 06:16 AM
well we didn't like to say ...

:D

I'm definitly sticking to 98

prog_tom
Aug 14th, 2001, 06:50 AM
Ha, Actually it means Xtra Porno:)
Nah, it means eXPerience.

I hate WinXP(Beta2).
I mean the ICONs are all big and stuff(in the folder view). You can change it for once, but when you view that folder again, it still is that large...
It's basically for beginners, in our world, it's considered BABIES:)

So they must design a crap for "Adults" like us:), but though I'm only 12.