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barrk
Jul 17th, 2001, 12:31 PM
Does the expression, "We've always done it that way!" ring any
bells???

The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4
feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number.

Why was that gauge used?

Because that's the way they built them in England, and English
expatriates built the US Railroads.

Why did the English build them like that?

Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who
built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.

Why did they" use that gauge then?

Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.

Okay!

Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?

Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels
would break on some of the old, long distance roads in England, because that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.

So who built those old rutted roads?

Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (and
England) for their legions. The roads have been used ever since.


And the ruts in the roads?

Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, which everyone else
had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels. Since the
chariots were made for (or by) Imperial Rome, they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.

The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches
derives from the original specification for an Imperial Roman war
chariot.

Specifications and bureaucracies live forever. So the next time
you are handed a specification and wonder what horse's ass came up with it, you may be exactly right, because the Imperial Roman war chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of two war horses.

Now the twist to the story...

There's an interesting extension to the story about railroad
gauges and horses' behinds.

When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are
two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel
tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their factory at Utah. The engineers who designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains.

The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly
wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track is about as
wide as two horses' behinds. So, a major design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determined over two thousand years go by the width of a horse's ass.

...... and you thought being a HORSE'S ASS wasn't important...

Pix
Jul 17th, 2001, 12:41 PM
He he :)

Kzin
Jul 17th, 2001, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by barrk
Does the expression, "We've always done it that way!" ring any
bells???

The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4
feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number.



Its worse than that - Brunel built a full 7 foot gauge railway in Victorian times - the GWR (http://www.thehistorynet.com/BritishHeritage/articles/1999/01992_text.htm) (Great Western Railway also known as God's Wonderful Railway) and some Horse's Ass :( decided that they should lay a third rail inside the broad gauge tracks to let normal trains run on it so there was never any pressure to change (a bit like having a Windows emulator in Linux).

(:rolleyes: Horse's Ass ? sounds like a horse's girlfriend or something:confused: )

CiberTHuG
Jul 17th, 2001, 01:43 PM
I had heard the story Katie relayed before, though not with the SRB twist. Good thing the tunnel doesn't turn too much.

While I don't doubt that that story is true, as I understand it there was a time when American rail companies tried to lay different size track, much like the GWR. Their idea was, if you want to use our track, you will have to rent our special spacers to put onto your cars.

In other words, if you wanted to go from A to B and use someone elses track, you had to pay a tax. America began an early version of the Common Carrier Law. All track widths had to be the same, and no one could deny anyone else use of any track, though they could charge a very small tax.

The long distance phone companies have a common carrier law. For some reason I don't think the cable companies do, and this bothers me, a lot.

scoutt
Jul 17th, 2001, 01:55 PM
he he :D

Katie, I saw/read that same piece of information not too long ago. pretty informative and makes you think.

CiberTHuG
Jul 17th, 2001, 03:16 PM
I don't know where I heard this from, and I imagine the policy has sense been changed, but for a time, all British artillery units had an extra fifth man.

When someone looked into why the fifth man was assigned to the team, and what his job was supposed to be, they found out that he was supposed to hold the reins on the horse incase it should fright from the cannon.

Now that artillery doesn't rely on horses to get around, no one needs to hold those reins. The position just wasn't dissolved as fast as the necessity.

Beacon
Jul 17th, 2001, 08:08 PM
Perhaps tom's getting a bit bored with the same old styl;e katie?

I suggest try some others like the pretzel or spoon!

Liven it up a bit.

;) :D

chrisjk
Jul 17th, 2001, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Beacon
Perhaps tom's getting a bit bored with the same old styl;e katie?

I suggest try some others like the pretzel or spoon!

Liven it up a bit.

;) :D :D lets make a human pretzel baby, making love gravy love gravy love gravy ohh ohh ohhhh

parksie
Jul 17th, 2001, 08:11 PM
:eek:
That's sick...keep it up!

Beacon
Jul 17th, 2001, 08:44 PM
Chris:
You spilt some love gravy on the couch go clean it up.
:)

Jethro
Jul 17th, 2001, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Beacon
Perhaps tom's getting a bit bored with the same old styl;e katie?

I suggest try some others like the pretzel or spoon!

Liven it up a bit.

;) :D

It's probably against American Religous thought to adopt a position other than the missionary.:rolleyes:

Besides with Tom's recent heart condition katie will have to go easy on him. Guess the trip to Hooters is off then.

crptcblade
Jul 17th, 2001, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Beacon
Perhaps tom's getting a bit bored with the same old styl;e katie?

I suggest try some others like the pretzel or spoon!

Liven it up a bit.

;) :D

Two words : Gravity Boots. Let your imagination fill in the rest...

:D:D

barrk
Jul 18th, 2001, 10:09 AM
All excellent suggestions.......I particularily like the gravity boots idea!;)