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Active
Feb 28th, 2001, 08:32 AM
Foot and Mouth Disease.
What Exactly is this ?

Is this Realated to BSE ?

Feb 28th, 2001, 08:34 AM
* points at Active and laughs "HAHAHAHAHAHA" *

Active
Feb 28th, 2001, 08:37 AM
What ? I thought It can Only attack cattle and it doesn't
Make the victim laugh...I think... :D

Active
Feb 28th, 2001, 08:39 AM
But Seriously ....

I want to know why they call it by that Name .

crptcblade
Feb 28th, 2001, 08:43 AM
damn, and somebody just explained it to me yesterday, too...I think it's because you get sores on your hands and feet(hooves) and your mouth(mouth) or something like that...

Feb 28th, 2001, 08:51 AM
Well i know it can be spread by "foot & mouth"

This one place were spraying people shoes as they went in!!!

smh
Feb 28th, 2001, 09:13 AM
Look here:

http://www.dermnet.org.nz/index.html

My nephew had it last summer.

Feb 28th, 2001, 09:16 AM
Your Avitari always seams to make me smile :) Uh....NO, wait!....not smile....... * simon runs away *

Active
Feb 28th, 2001, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by smh
Look here:

http://www.dermnet.org.nz/index.html

My nephew had it last summer.

Thanks !
I even Saw a Picture of it..

http://dermnetnz.org/img/hfmf.jpg

simonm
Feb 28th, 2001, 11:15 AM
Foot and Mouth desiese is NOT related to BSE and it is not infecteous to humans (although we may carry it and pass it in).

In fact it only infects 'cloven hoof' animals (or so I was told) like cows, sheep and goat.

Babette
Feb 28th, 2001, 11:17 AM
Is that foot and mouth disease

http://hoshi.cic.sfu.ca/epix/topics/animal/f_m_d.htm

or hand, foot and mouth disease? They're completely different. It's generally accepted that foot and mouth isn't contracted by people, although there was one recorded case in the UK in 1966.

smh
Feb 28th, 2001, 11:18 AM
Your information is incorrect. It CAN infect humans. It is very very rare in older chilren and adults, but is very contagious if a child is infected.

Babette
Feb 28th, 2001, 11:21 AM
Are you sure you're talking about foot and mouth as opposed to hand, foot and mouth?

smh
Feb 28th, 2001, 11:25 AM
I am talking about the Hand, Foot, and Mouth disease. Sorry! Why didn't they name the Foot and Mouth disease the Hoof and Snout disease. I think it would have prevented some confusion! My nephew had the Hand, Foot, and Mouth disease. And by the way, why do they call the Hand, Foot, and Mouth disease a disease? The kids only have it for a short time.

smh
Feb 28th, 2001, 11:26 AM
Active,

Which one of the diseases were you really refering to? If it was the Foot and Mouth disease, I gave you the wrong information.

Xenonic_Rob
Feb 28th, 2001, 01:28 PM
OK OK OK let's sort this out.

Foot and Mouth disease is a disease of pigs, sheep, that kind of thing. It is totally harmless to humans.
It causes problems with the animals feet and mouth, and eventually kills them. It is HIGHLY contagious, and can be carried by humans on shoes etc., but it's not harmful at all... 22 farms (currently) have been quarantined in UK right now, and it's really gone out of control...

But that's what it is - a highly contagious disease of "farm" animals, carried but not harmful to humans.

parksie
Feb 28th, 2001, 01:50 PM
Apparently humans do show some symptoms, but recover quickly. Animals do not recover. Ever.

Active
Feb 28th, 2001, 06:39 PM
Damn.....Sometimes Naming a Disease with words
from Common Man's Dictionary causes a Lot of Confusion.
They Should Have called it by Technical Name.

simonm
Mar 1st, 2001, 03:08 AM
If you'd called it by it's proper name, none of us would have known what you were talking about. At least some of us did this time. The fact that others didn't (noticing also that they were british) is incredible since there's been nothing else in our news for the last week.

Babette
Mar 1st, 2001, 03:24 AM
Mike,

Animals do recover from foot and mouth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1191000/1191207.stm

The vaccine isn't usually used in Europe because it implies that the disease is out of control and he country loses it's disease free status, even if it helps to eradicate the outbreak.

Mar 1st, 2001, 04:03 AM
yet again, beaurocracy prevents problem solution...

Kzin
Mar 1st, 2001, 09:41 AM
Active - this might tell you more about the innoculation issues.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000142645239690&rtmo=LxlLKS7d&atmo=LxlLKS7d&pg=/et/01/3/1/nfoot501.html

BTW - you are safe if you don't have hooves ;)
The worry is it might be a finacial disaster to food producers who are already hard pressed after a rain of blows of this sort and that it might affect food supplies.

parksie
Mar 1st, 2001, 12:39 PM
Thanks for that, Babe. ;)

Shows how silly it is of me to listen to other people -- everyone else said it was incurable :mad: I hate disinformation :(

Hannes
Mar 2nd, 2001, 06:40 AM
Actually it seems FMD only kills off about some 4 percent of infected animals. The rest of the herd will be immune once they recovered, so in times of less intensive farming (maybe up to the 19th century) farmers used to infect their animals on purpuse once the disease was around.
The kind of overreaction to be seen right now is really a shame, especially since there is no real danger to people.
Again if you compare the hysteria in fighting FMD to the sloppiness and sometimes almost criminal practice of covering up information and all the lobbying against necessary measures when dealing with BSE you can only wish that the 'responsible' officials eat more beef... or maybe they already had too much...
EU agrarian practice stinks!

Hannes

chrisjk
Mar 2nd, 2001, 03:12 PM
Down with the EU...!!!

Oh, wait, wrong topic. Sorry

nukem996
Mar 2nd, 2001, 03:46 PM
plantars wort. u have to put acid on it to get it off. it hurts like a *****. or u can get an operation and that hurts like a ***** too.

parksie
Mar 2nd, 2001, 03:48 PM
Nuke, this isn't a thread about your skanky feet :rolleyes:

Hannes
Mar 4th, 2001, 08:53 AM
chrisjk:
to have a say you first need to join, hehe...

oops, wrong topic too!

parksie
Mar 4th, 2001, 10:02 AM
Nope. Honeybee -- a huge proportion of the open/common land in Britain has been closed now, even grass verges around the roads near where I live because sheep had been grazed there. They've closed off the Malvern Hills...and they're recommending people in rural areas stay inside.

Hannes
Mar 4th, 2001, 10:11 AM
Is it that severe parksie? I didn't know that. Do you mean that people are not allowed to take a stroll in the fields when they are/were used for grazing animals?
That's bad.
Anyway it seems the disease cannot be stopped in spite of all those measures. It's pretty much everywhere around the world now. To stay in Europe, it's reached the continent as far as I heard.

regards

Hannes

parksie
Mar 4th, 2001, 10:24 AM
Yeah :(

You can't go on any kind of agricultural land at all now :(

Hannes
Mar 4th, 2001, 11:06 AM
Sorry to hear that. Hope it won't be too long!

regards

Hannes

parksie
Mar 4th, 2001, 11:20 AM
Thanks :)

I'm sure we'll manage...Britain's got through bad times before ;)

chrisjk
Mar 4th, 2001, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Hannes
chrisjk:
to have a say you first need to join, hehe...

oops, wrong topic too!
Very true Hannes, but once your in, there's no escape ;)

Besides, we like sitting on fences :)