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Apr 18th, 2009, 04:54 PM
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Visual Basic - Java
Hello
Please I want to learn a programing language because I have some projects that need to be done.
Please I am thinking about any of VB or Java, but I do not know what to go for or which one to pick.
I know that I am a newbie to a place like this forum which is full of many advanced experienced people, and may be a newbie guy like me asking a silly thing, but I hope that you have some patient with me.
Please I want to know what is the main difference between VB and Java?
And yes I've goggled before I came here but was not able to find an answer for my question.
Also I'd like to know what is the main outline for learning programing?
Thanks and I hope to hear from you
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 08:21 AM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
well, welcome to the forums...
as to the differences between VB and JAVA, the main thing i can think of ATM is "Object Oriented Programming - OOP".
"Object-oriented programming (OOP) is a programming paradigm that uses "objects" and their interactions to design applications and computer programs. Programming techniques may include features such as encapsulation, modularity, polymorphism, and inheritance."
as defined by WikiPedia.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 08:46 AM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
 Originally Posted by modpluz
well, welcome to the forums...
as to the differences between VB and JAVA, the main thing i can think of ATM is "Object Oriented Programming - OOP".
"Object-oriented programming (OOP) is a programming paradigm that uses "objects" and their interactions to design applications and computer programs. Programming techniques may include features such as encapsulation, modularity, polymorphism, and inheritance."
as defined by WikiPedia.
Thats true if we're talking about VB6. VB.NET is a fully object-oriented programming language.
I dont know what version MGadAllah is refering to, but I cant imagine that it isnt VB.NET.
To the differences..
Java and VB.NET are fairly similar. The main difference is that Java is platform independent, in that sense that it only requires that the computer running the java application also has a JVM installed. The same could also be said about VB.NET...theoretically it could be platform independent if the computer running the application has the .NET CLR installed. But thats not the case. Basically VB.NET is for developing applications that'll run on Windows PCs.
Moreover I just find the rest of the differences to be personal preferences. I myself find the .NET framework better structured, and thus easier to work with, than the Java equivallent.
Welcome to VBForums, by the way.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 08:53 AM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
my bad, i assumed that the OP is talking about VB6, not VB.NET.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 12:13 PM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
Thanks for replying guys 
Ok, I will go for VB, but please let me ask if I should start with VB 6 or go directly to 2008 version or go directly to vb.net?
and regarding my question about outline for learning programing ... what shall I learn 1st as if we are saying what is the elements for the introduction for programing?
Thanks a lot.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 12:18 PM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
Welcome to the forums. 
 Originally Posted by MGadAllah
but please let me ask if I should start with VB 6 or go directly to 2008 version or go directly to vb.net?
We are not going to answer this question.
You are going to answer that question by answering this question:
You want to learn how to drive a car.
You have a choice between learning with a brand new Mercedes or learning with a 12 year old Mercedes.
Which do you pick?
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 12:36 PM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
 Originally Posted by Hack
Welcome to the forums.  We are not going to answer this question.
You are going to answer that question by answering this question:
You want to learn how to drive a car.
You have a choice between learning with a brand new Mercedes or learning with a 12 year old Mercedes.
Which do you pick?
Thanks a lot for this amazing fast reply.
lol ... hahahaha
Actually (in case I got your point correctly) the answer will depend and vary:
- pick a Mercedes to learn with easily but you may get some damage which will be costly but again you will learn with too much ease due to the large facilities it has over the old one.
- pick an old one will do the same job but with some hard way beside no harm at all ... lol.
So please if I get your point wrong please correct me and tell me the right approach.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 12:41 PM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
 Originally Posted by MGadAllah
Thanks a lot for this amazing fast reply.
lol ... hahahaha
Actually (in case I got your point correctly) the answer will depend and vary:
- pick a Mercedes to learn with easily but you may get some damage which will be costly but again you will learn with too much ease due to the large facilities it has over the old one.
- pick an old one will do the same job but with some hard way beside no harm at all ... lol.
So please if I get your point wrong please correct me and tell me the right approach.
The right approach is to not over think this...out with the old in with the new.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 12:43 PM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
Thanks for replying 
Please excuse my poor English as I do not follow or understand quite well your expression :
 Originally Posted by Hack
out with the old in with the new.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 12:48 PM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
Hack means go for VB.NET (2008).
Unless you have a very good reason to go with VB6 (and the money to purchase a license).
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 12:54 PM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
No I do not have a problem to get a license at all.
I mean is it any good to start with vb6 and then go up towards vb.net.
That was my point of view
Last edited by MGadAllah; Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:37 PM.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 12:58 PM
#12
Re: Visual Basic - Java
Forget VB6 exists....just go with .NET and don't look back.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 01:06 PM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
Thanks a lot.
Guys ... you really saved me a lot of time.
Please tell me if I should use ebooks or use video tutorials?
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Apr 23rd, 2009, 06:44 AM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
 Originally Posted by MGadAllah
Please tell me if I should use ebooks or use video tutorials?
that is yours to decide, which best suit you?
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Apr 26th, 2009, 04:19 AM
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Re: Visual Basic - Java
@MGadAllah
That really depends on how you want to learn. I personally feel that video tutorials are great. Not only do you learn about a topic very quickly, but you also pick up lots of others information like using the IDE and other things.
There are lots of video tutorials how there that you might want to take a look at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/bb629407.aspx
There are also lots of companies out there the specialize in creating videos, one that I have used in the past, and found very good are:
http://www.learnvisualstudio.net/
Hope that helps!
Gary
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