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HarryW
Feb 22nd, 2001, 12:05 AM
Hey all. I've been wondering recently about how secure firewalls are. I mean, I have a firewall, but are there ways around it? Also, what can you do once you identify an IP that is trying to get access to your computer?

Feb 22nd, 2001, 02:15 AM
Harry, Harry, Harry,

I've had a hacker nuke me and all sorts of stuff, but luckily my firewall was just strong enough to get his IP. I couldn't do anything withit later, but it lets me know firewalls work.

Anyway, for a good security sites visit:
http://www.sub-list.com/

Basically that is a site which links to other sites. It links to illegal warez sites, but don't head off in that direction, go to the Hacking section. Don't be fooled by the sub-title, there are far more security sites than hacking sites.

An interesting fact though, apparently a lot of people mistake a cracker for a hacker, and vice versa. A cracker is actually the one that invades computers, and a hacker only does stuff like disassemble programs. But times have changed and so have the meanings...

Feb 22nd, 2001, 05:24 AM
I recomend AtGuard... it's a really good firewall.

It costs money, but Mike said that they accidently released a free version. http://www.parksie.uklinux.net/build11.zip

After you get the persons IP, use Sams Spade to get the ISP they use and report them.

http://www.samspade.org/ssw/

parksie
Feb 22nd, 2001, 05:31 AM
AtGuard is now a part of Norton Internet Security, and they've dropped NT4 support.

Feb 22nd, 2001, 05:36 AM
Is norton any good?

I've never used it, because when I installed norton system works(includes ghost, antivirus, utilities, pc doctor, etc), my machine slowed down by about 50%

Feb 22nd, 2001, 05:46 AM
I think that Norton can't get any worse. When I installed CrashGuard, my computer, ironically, crashed. And I really hate the one where when you try to uninstall something it goes 'You do not need to uninstall Norton right now'

Feb 22nd, 2001, 05:48 AM
My system crashed 50% more when I installed crashguard... But it only tried to crash... crashguard prevented it... but odly, after 'preventing' the crash, the system went down harder than I've seen before.... :(

Active
Feb 22nd, 2001, 09:00 AM
Any one dare to attack me ??

My IP is 127.0.0.1

Jeff_1
Feb 22nd, 2001, 09:53 AM
funny active.... haha

alexmac
Feb 22nd, 2001, 10:22 AM
Dennis I have used Nortons firewall and it is a resorce hungry monster. It also docent restrict traffic from your computer (e.g. spyware) which some free ones like Zone Alarm do. It looked pretty through and had lots of options to fiddle with!

Alex

parksie
Feb 22nd, 2001, 11:08 AM
It's a shame really, since AtGuard takes virtually no resources on mine, and blocks both directions.

marnitzg
Feb 22nd, 2001, 12:06 PM
Someone managed to crash my university's firewall by querying it with 4500 http requests. Don't know what firewall it was running, but it has since been upgraded

zmerlinz
Feb 22nd, 2001, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by sunnyl
I think that Norton can't get any worse. When I installed CrashGuard, my computer, ironically, crashed. And I really hate the one where when you try to uninstall something it goes 'You do not need to uninstall Norton right now'

i had the same problem, also when i put mcaffe office on mine that was supposed to save my computer, but instead it ate nearly all of the resources and made my computer vunerable to crashes, i am better off without it, i prefer blackice, but i am giving that one that Dennis suggested a go.

zmerlinz
Feb 22nd, 2001, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by denniswrenn
I recomend AtGuard... it's a really good firewall.

It costs money, but Mike said that they accidently released a free version. http://www.parksie.uklinux.net/build11.zip



beware all that download this file, i just did and installed it and when my computer restarted it had a windows protection error, and i had to restore the system, thankfully windows ME sorted this out for me

so if yo have ME be CAREFUL

parksie
Feb 22nd, 2001, 05:18 PM
It'll be the system file protection, since AtGuard actually hooks into the main networking subsystem so it can filter packets before the OS gets it's sticky paws on them.

Active
Feb 22nd, 2001, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by zmerlinz
so if yo have ME be CAREFUL

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:11 PM
Norton is slowing down your computer because, you have your protection on full. That means it scans every file you open, or use. Thats why it slows down. Damn how much more stuiped can you people get. Do you need me to show you how to lower the protection to normal?

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:15 PM
We can get threw any thing and everything. You attemps will just slow us down, but not for long. Alot of people use the same type of computer anti $h!t. Once one person has it and we hack it we share how to do hack it.

Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Dark Programmer
Norton is slowing down your computer because, you have your protection on full. That means it scans every file you open, or use. Thats why it slows down. Damn how much more stuiped can you people get. Do you need me to show you how to lower the protection to normal?

Protection for what?

Norton WHAT?

Antivirus?
PC Doctor?

stop being an ass nukem.... I could've done that, but I decided it was over kill....

Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Dark Programmer
We can get threw any thing and everything. You attemps will just slow us down, but not for long. Alot of people use the same type of computer anti $h!t. Once one person has it and we hack it we share how to do hack it.

You are not a hacker nukem! you are a retarded 13 year old who has a huge ego and small brain.

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:40 PM
moron. im planning something for u all. once it unleashed ur all gona be fu<|<ed.

Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:45 PM
Oh Dear, I seem to have a friend who works at an Airforce base. I wonder if she will take that comment to her superiors, you will be the one who is ****ed.

Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:46 PM
well bring it on!

Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:50 PM
Ouch.. that's going to hurt in the morning..

Ya know, those 'Report This post to a Moderator' links seem to be very useful....

Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:52 PM
No, you retard.... you don't know any 'fbi ppl'...

even if you did, I'm sure they aren't willing to lose their jobs by attacking an inosent person just to help settle a grudge that a 13 year old has.

Jeff_1
Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:56 PM
WooooooHoooooooo!!! nukem you couldnt compromise a computer even if it was already compromised for you...haha


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:56 PM
what happend to dat chump who was cursing off us all, go him. wa he got warn or got his name taken away. wow i can make new names easly.

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 09:58 PM
stop stick dat gun up ur ass. well hell *** *fires gun* haha u got bullets up ur ass. eat dat *****.

ull all see.

im not afraid of the gov. if it gets bad i know ppl in cuba.

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:01 PM
right, you know people in cuba.....maybe they'll take down the entire us government just for you as well

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:01 PM
god damnit, I'm going to die from laughing if you don't stop posting....

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:02 PM
(not you sunnyl)

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:04 PM
no, i know ppl who will give me food a shelter.

Jeff_1
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:05 PM
hahahaha what???? nukem???


food a shelter?? HA!

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:07 PM
u think im afriad of u. well im not. i know ppl in virgina.

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:07 PM
then you should get packing now, you'd be better off over there

Jeff_1
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:08 PM
i could care boy... your idle threats dont scare me.

and *** does virginia have to do with ANYTHING??

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:10 PM
You know people in virginia, cuba and the fbi. Do you know any Martians?

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:14 PM
Virginia has to do with, that I live here....

and he thinks he is going to get people to harm me, when he doesn't even know my address.

BTW, I am not listed in the phone book, so don't even try it you ***.

YoungBuck
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:14 PM
These people he knows could just be his army of clones. :D :rolleyes:

Jeff_1
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:14 PM
Or the bermuda triangle?? or the lost city of atlanits?? heh i am sure they have computers in atlantis :rolleyes:

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:16 PM
miss me now u got to fu<|< ur mom.

lets c agient smith and Jones
cubans vannsa
virgina rebeca

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:21 PM
crap! thats too many people, i think i'm going to have to run for my life...

yea you know people in the fbi, you can't even spell agent properly

really please stop posting, i'm getting really tired from laughing

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:23 PM
Oh bother, somebody named Rebecca is going to kick my ass. I better go hide.

I know a few people in NJ that wouldn't mind pounding your ass into the ground.

Maybe after I finish your Whois and report you to your ISP, things won't go so smoothly.

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:24 PM
try me *****.

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:26 PM
What was that in reference to?

YoungBuck
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Dark Programmer

lets c agient smith and Jones


Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones??

Be careful everybody or the Men In Black will be knocking at your door at his request!!

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:30 PM
Maybe when they use the little flashy pen thingy, I'll forget about it all and stop laughing at this retard.

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:32 PM
I wish they would, I just can't stop laughing.....

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:33 PM
how bout i shove ur head up ur ass.

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:36 PM
Notice how everytime he's got nothing else to say he tries to come up with another funny threat, insult or says he know people?

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:38 PM
You've basicly summed up every post he has ever made.

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:50 PM
at least i dont spend ALL my time here. I program.

dimava
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:53 PM
What do you program?
Viruses?
'Nukes'?
msgbox "hi" programs?



wait..... let me guess.......
you make programs for Bill Gates and you are his personal advisor


and most of us dont spend all day here, we play games (such as half-life, quake, star craft, etc.) we make 'useful' programs, we learn, and then in our free time we come here to argue with idiots as such

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:53 PM
So, you're saying, we can't program and be here at the same time?

dumb****

Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:56 PM
There you go, another subject change from him.

I use my laptop here, then, I move my mouse onto the taskbar and click Visual Basic, so I'm programming , then when I feel like it I move my mouse to the taskbar and click Internet Explorer, then I'm back at the forums again. I hope you get the point, I've simplified it as much as possible so it'll sink in for you.

Cybrg641
Feb 23rd, 2001, 10:56 PM
dragging buttons on a form and saying that you are cool in a message box is not programming. Try learning C++ or Assembly and you will know how really worthless you are.

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 11:02 PM
i = mcisendstring("play mpeg", 0&,0&,0&)

whois that?

Feb 23rd, 2001, 11:04 PM
what the **** are you talking about?

Cybrg641
Feb 23rd, 2001, 11:06 PM
If that was suppose to be C++, you missed the ending ";", stupid ****.

Dark Programmer
Feb 23rd, 2001, 11:08 PM
dumb ass thats vb

Feb 23rd, 2001, 11:08 PM
I feel another attempted subject change coming on

Feb 23rd, 2001, 11:10 PM
you see, no one can understand you when you write down a VB function and ask who it is. A VB function is not a person.

Cybrg641
Feb 23rd, 2001, 11:11 PM
OMG, guys look at what he can do!! That is absolutely amazing! How the hell did you do that?? You must be a ****ing genious or something to do that stuff!

dimava
Feb 23rd, 2001, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by dimava
What do you program?
Viruses?
'Nukes'?
msgbox "hi" programs?



wait..... let me guess.......
you make programs for Bill Gates and you are his personal advisor


and most of us dont spend all day here, we play games (such as half-life, quake, star craft, etc.) we make 'useful' programs, we learn, and then in our free time we come here to argue with idiots as such

I said in our free time we come to argue
I was just trying to say that we (most of us) have lives, and we (most of us) dont program all day because we have school, go places, do stuff.

Jeff_1
Feb 24th, 2001, 02:18 AM
Big deal you can program in vb...like what was mentioned before... try something in c++ OR assembly..you will see what being a programmer is when you do something besides drag a textbox onto a form...

Nukes??? muwhaha..no wait...i mean..MUWHAHAHAHAHA
I have used nukes before..and it only worked once!!!.. once!!! it worked!!! thats it..now if you think your going to do something horrible with a nuke..well then i say you should just kill yourself right now you l4m3r.

Infact if you think you are so 31337..then why not write your own nuke in c++..see how "talented" you are.

John
Feb 24th, 2001, 03:51 AM
This thread is going to stop right here. Please keep things clean.

Dark Programmer(/nukem/whatever), if you don't sort yourself now, I will have no option but to ban you. I don't like having to do that, so please clean up your language, be nice to people and do something useful with your life.

Thanks,
John