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Mark Sreeves
Feb 14th, 2001, 06:45 AM
anyone use free internet access though NTL World via a normal BT phone line?
(NOT cable)

If so, what's the connection like?


I used to use World-Online at home but it was a real pile of s h i t e!

or comments on any other "free" UK ISP please.

Feb 14th, 2001, 06:56 AM
Ok im gonna get killed for this...but i use AOL, every1 says you keep getting cut of and the connection is ****, but ive left it for more than 48hours with out being "kicked" or disconnected and i disconnected it myself at the end of that 48 hours, the connections i get are always above 50000 which is better than a lot of other ISPs, software is a bit crap, neva crashed on me thou, but if you have a fast enough pc you can still use IE or *cough LOUDLY "netscape navigator" *

it gets me on the internet and thats all i want...

alexmac
Feb 14th, 2001, 10:06 AM
I use NTL world through a normal BT line and its by far the best connection I have used. I get on first time 99% of the time and the speed is good.
Alex

Jeff_1
Feb 14th, 2001, 11:16 AM
How dare you chenko ;)

Mark Sreeves
Feb 15th, 2001, 02:20 AM
Thanks for your comments

I think I might give NTL a try because it looks like it might work out cheaper than AOL.

I used to have an AOL account about 5 years ago and it was soooo slow. I expect they've improved their servers now though!


Anyone else care to comment on ISPs before I sell my soul to NTL?

HarryW
Feb 15th, 2001, 03:22 AM
I recommend cable if you're in an area that allows it. I'm on cable with NTL, and it's £20 a month for constant access. I bought the cable modem though. If you rent one, it totals at £26 a month I believe.

512k downstream, 128k upstream. It's not as fast as they have overseas, but it's just about the best available here. ADSL is the same I think, although I have a feeling it doesn't get clogged up so easily when there are a lot of users.

Gaffer
Feb 15th, 2001, 03:41 AM
Harry,

Cable modem? Know where I can get more info about this? I'm on NTL (well, ex C&Wireless), but just got a BT line installed for the purposes of ADSL. They installed it, and the little monkeys turned round and said that the line quality wasn't good enough for ADSL. I NEED an alternative...

Mark Sreeves
Feb 15th, 2001, 03:57 AM
Cable's not available where I live :(
nor is ADSL for that matter

Gaffer
Feb 15th, 2001, 04:12 AM
I've just looked at the NTL site, and they say Cable Modem is not available to C&W customers yet. Does this mean i can use a C&W cable modem instead?

What a nightmare this is man....

Feb 15th, 2001, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by Jeff_1
How dare you chenko ;)

*simon hangs his head im shame*

You lucky bastard Harry, cable at £20 a month! bloody cheap!! we dont even have aDSL around here yet and that ive seen will cost bout £40 a month!
Does your cable connection have a Fixed IP address?

zmerlinz
Feb 15th, 2001, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by Mark Sreeves
Cable's not available where I live :(
nor is ADSL for that matter

yeah i know how you feel, i live in the fens aaaghhhh

where abouts in the uk do you live ??żż

Mark Sreeves
Feb 15th, 2001, 08:38 AM
I live in the Midlands about 20 miles south of Birmingham

Hmm.. this brings me on to another gripe.

ITV advertise programs that they are showing on ITV2

Yep, you guessed it! We can't get that either.

zmerlinz
Feb 15th, 2001, 08:44 AM
yeah and adverts on channel 4 for new series's of things and then they say, only on E4 thatn really pisses me off !!

chrisjk
Feb 17th, 2001, 09:25 PM
Well get Ondigital, then you get E4 and ITV2 (which is a waste of time - you ain't missing nothing) plus Sky One and other cool stuff like MTV.

I can get it and this is one *sleepy* village. Of course nearest cable is about 6 miles away.

Zaf Khan
Feb 18th, 2001, 08:14 AM
Hi All Ntl Users,

Do you all get disconnected after 2 Hrs?

And has anyone wrote an app to reconnect you automatically?

If not maybe we could all get together and write an app.

We could even sell it to NON-VBWORLD users and give it for FREE to VB-World users?

DocZaf
{;->

I Live in Leicester (Midlands)
anyone else in Leicester visit this website?
maybe could go for a pint and a chat at the same time?

alexmac
Feb 18th, 2001, 01:10 PM
Yeah I thought about doing it Zaf but the timeout is there for a reason, if a lot of people had this app then there would be a few people on all the time and the rest of us wouldnt be able to get on.
Admitably when it cuts off after 2 hours in the middle of a download it is irritating but I guess the whole NTL world deal is pretty sweet anyway. Ive also heard that some other ISPs kicked users off for "abusing" the service.

Just my thoughts

Alex

Zaf Khan
Feb 18th, 2001, 02:01 PM
I think you've convinced me Alex,

It's more the thought of not being able to get on as (like you said) some people may be connected 24/7.

And just out of curiosity.....

I usually connect at either 48000 or 49333 but just lately i've been connecting at 32xxx has anyone else noticed a drop in connection speed?

DocZaf
{;->

alexmac
Feb 18th, 2001, 02:10 PM
I am currently connected at 33,333 bps it does seem to vary a little but I think this is the speed of data from the modem to your computer not the true connection speed not sure through

Alex

Zaf Khan
Feb 18th, 2001, 02:49 PM
The speed of data from the MODEM to COMPUTER can usually be found by RESTTING the modem with a modem string the two main reset codes (one or the other never both together) are:

AT&F

or

AT&Z

when connecting after using any of those strings the modem connection speed usually reports 115000

DocZaf
{;->
course all the above is for a 56k modem

alexmac
Feb 18th, 2001, 03:12 PM
How do you send those strings to the modem?

Alex

Zaf Khan
Feb 18th, 2001, 03:21 PM
From the start button on the taskbar

START

SETTINGS

CONTROL PANEL

MODEMS


Then Once the modem properties is visible
Highlight the current modem if more than one then click on the PROPERTIES button

When the Modem Properties Window Opens
Click on the CONNECTION tab
then on the ADVANCED button

phew....

And then you will see a FRAME title EXTRA SETTINGS and it should contain a TEXTBOX, you type it in there.

DocZaf
{;->