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ShIzO
Feb 13th, 2001, 12:30 PM
anybody got this one yet?!

after decryption:

<SNIP - Do not post malicious code on the forums - James>

and thanks Fox for your Bulletin Tool....

CyberSurfer
Feb 13th, 2001, 12:34 PM
No, but I'd recommend deleting this post before John sees it...He doesn't take kindly to virus posts...

Feb 13th, 2001, 01:29 PM
What the hell does this thing do anyway?

I don't know much VBS, but this looks like it does nothing but send an email to everybody on your contact list.

ShIzO
Feb 13th, 2001, 01:39 PM
yeah, that's exacly what it does...

originally it looks like this:

<SNIP - Do not post malicious code on the forums - James>

Feb 13th, 2001, 01:39 PM
....Its supposed to bog up Email systems

Fox
Feb 13th, 2001, 01:50 PM
Just another crap virus trying to imitate "I love you" or "Melissa" ... nothing special.

But was nice to see my program working anyways ;)

nukem996
Feb 13th, 2001, 03:35 PM
what it dose is it puts a pic of Melissa on ur screen, i dont know where or how big. it was designed for out look. this shows how stuipid out look is. it goes threw all ur addresss and sends them the picture. this is y i dont use out look, cause virus r designed for it.

parksie
Feb 13th, 2001, 03:43 PM
Looks like Sheriff James just walked into the thread :p

I still use Outlook, but the thing these viruses rely on is human stupidity. I mean, why on earth would you run something with a .vbs extension?

Duh..... :rolleyes:

Feb 13th, 2001, 06:30 PM
The ClanoftheRustySpoon are every where!! MWAHAHA!

nukem996
Feb 13th, 2001, 08:45 PM
basicly my school dosent have virus protection. and any one can use them. i told a kid that typeing in /con/con in run would make his net connections go faster, he belived me. that was funney.

the truth is most people dont know anything about computers. they know how to use windows thats it. they dont know what vbs or even exe is! thats y. but it wouldnt be spreading if they didnt use outlook.

Feb 14th, 2001, 04:05 AM
Originally posted by nukem996
the truth is most people dont know anything about computers.

That used to be the case but the amount of people using computers have grown to very large amounts!

one thing which i think is funny is trying to show them where the "anykey" is.... duh!

alex_read
Feb 14th, 2001, 05:06 AM
I know vbs but can't see the point of writing viruses myself, waste of my time more than anything.

Anyway, it's like the I love you one, I have a mate that got it 3 times yesterday & it puts an entry into the registry :
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\software\onthefly

If your worried, a lot of the virus checker companies have already got the fix if you just update yours, you should be ok. A specific fix for this is attached though :

Just 1 more point : it's spelt ANNA KOURNIKOVA

Feb 14th, 2001, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by nukem996
basicly my school dosent have virus protection. and any one can use them. i told a kid that typeing in /con/con in run would make his net connections go faster, he belived me. that was funney.

the truth is most people dont know anything about computers. they know how to use windows thats it. they dont know what vbs or even exe is! thats y. but it wouldnt be spreading if they didnt use outlook.

Why was it funny to see another computer crash? his connections? He had more than one? Why?


the truth is most people dont know anything about computers.


That is true, but it's not their fault, they need somebody to teach them, it's not like you just wake up and know C++ or ASM. You have to learn it, and obviously they haven't yet.


but it wouldnt be spreading if they didnt use outlook.


You're saying, that we shouldn't use Outlook because viruses are designed for it. following that logic, we should all stop using all computers. There are viruses for the PalmOS, Macintosh, *Nix, Windows(obviously), etc. And they were all made for these specific systems, so we should just stop using these? Or perhaps make an OS of our own and not let anybody know about it.

alex_read
Feb 14th, 2001, 05:26 AM
Good points there, I agree with them all, and would like to add to the last one,

More & more higher hackers are targeting other apps than Outlook (trust me, I'm a techie & actually read all the surveys in loads of sites & Pc mags etc)

Linux is boasting that it's security is the best, and it appears the trend for viruses is to move toward this, some sort of power thing - MS is too easy, Look world, I can crash Linux type thing.

There have also been plenty written for Lotus Notes & other apps too. I think Outlook is hit because it supports more formats.

Feb 14th, 2001, 05:34 AM
Plus, Outlook is microsoft, which means used by a lot of people. Why target Eudora when there's a chance you're going to affect less than 30% of the people who recieve the virus?

alex_read
Feb 14th, 2001, 05:36 AM
Plus it's Microsoft full stop ;)

They've given us enough bugs, why not give them some back is another reason a few people use (have just been looking at these news pieces I've saved up...) :D

Paul Warren
Feb 14th, 2001, 07:54 AM
Is no-one bothered about the arse who tried to post a virus on the forum ? If I were John ( oh, just the thought of it ... ) er, I would block the sh*t's IP address and delete his account.

Come on John, sort him out.

Paul Warren
Feb 14th, 2001, 08:43 AM
Oh yes I'm the a**hole, the one posting a virus for people to download. Sorry to bother you, your majesty. Keep up the good work.

Of course the fact that there are lots of beginners on this site who won't know what a vbs file is doesn't matter does it ?

alex_read
Feb 14th, 2001, 08:48 AM
I would agree that there is a type of intrest in knowing how these top people code and write these viruses, but this is a good, clean site that's for genral VB help, you can goto somewhere like hacker.net for all this type of stuff, but I agree with Paul that it's not a good idea promoting or pasting the code here.

HarryW
Feb 14th, 2001, 08:58 AM
It's not a good idea, I agree, but there's no need to get militant about it. I missed the code, which I'm kinda disappointed about cos it would be interesting to see it, but it shouldn't really be here. So remove the code. It's done. Don't have to start blocking people's IPs and deleting their accounts (not that either of those actions would make a blind bit of difference).

parksie
Feb 14th, 2001, 09:15 AM
If you really want the code then I can email it to you in a non-accidentally-runnable format.

HarryW
Feb 14th, 2001, 09:19 AM
Cool. Are you on ICQ?

alex_read
Feb 14th, 2001, 09:19 AM
Parksie, can I have a copy please?

alex.read@avnet.com any chance of editing so it doesn't work though (change extension, shove <!-- & --> around it etc?)

Thanks

parksie
Feb 14th, 2001, 09:28 AM
Sent it!

parksie
Feb 14th, 2001, 09:31 AM
Erm....it kinda kicked me out :(

alex_read
Feb 14th, 2001, 09:33 AM
I noticed, my *}:#£$%! virus checker did it's job I suppose, could you try zipping it ? or turning it into a word document or something ?

I missed the last 2 vbs viruses because of this [sigh]

parksie
Feb 14th, 2001, 09:39 AM
Idea! PDF File!

<<< cranks out LaTeX...

Paul Warren
Feb 14th, 2001, 09:42 AM
OK. I over reacted. *hangs head* Sorry ShIzO if I was a bit in your face but I think you've got to agree that the general point was valid.

I'd still like to know if an IP address can be blocked from the site ?

alex_read
Feb 14th, 2001, 09:44 AM
An IP address can be blocked from any server, or ISP, so that's a yes.

However, I did find a tool a while back that allowed you to surf "invisibally" - it hid your IP address & you could look at any site, so there are ways around it.

ShIzO
Feb 14th, 2001, 11:51 AM
Paul, i see your point, not only yours but everybodys so i just would like to appologize for posting this ****ty code on this great forum i promise not to do it again...

and sorry paul for my previous post yelling at you and stuff (sometimes i get brutal and i say things i don't really mean)


peace.

nukem996
Feb 14th, 2001, 02:29 PM
notice all these programs r made in vb? and they dont do that much damage. it means its just a joke from a kid. i saw a show on hackers last night. it showed a kid, 15 who hacked into nasa and took the new space station control programs. he had complete control of it. he got cought and is under 6 months house arrest. its shows that these virus r made to get attention to themselfs. a real hacker would just do it, not get cough and tell no one.

parksie
Feb 14th, 2001, 02:31 PM
You do have a point there :)
Although I'm going to be pedantic here...

A hacker is someone who enjoys using computers and writes small/fast code as a matter of personal pride. A cracker is someone who breaks into systems.

The really dangerous crackers are those who work the stuff out, rather than the "script kiddies" who do it -- it's like America's 3-strikes-and-you're-out policy. They're punishing the users & small-time dealers, rather than the big producers and international smugglers.

HarryW
Feb 14th, 2001, 02:45 PM
Now I find that definition odd, although I've heard it before, because of the origin of the work 'hacker'. Originally, before computers, a hacker was someone who wandered around. At least that's what I seem to have lodged in the back of my brain. So it seems sensible to me that a hacker should be someone who wanders around the internet in a determined kind of way, not letting anyone keep them out. So a hacker doesn't necessarily do damage, just accesses information.

Seems like an odd way of naming things to call that a cracker, although a cracker does bypass security. It's just the wandering bit that doesn't seem to fit in with the 'cracker' tag.

nukem996
Feb 14th, 2001, 03:12 PM
hacker - 1. cut with repeated irregular blows
2. cough in a short dry manner
3. manage successfully

so really hacker dosent mean one who breaks into ur computer and f*c|<s it up.

HarryW
Feb 14th, 2001, 03:14 PM
It's nothing to do with damage. It's to do with gaining access.

nukem996
Feb 14th, 2001, 03:15 PM
the way i was tought was a hacker was a person who will hack into ur computer and not do any thing bad or cause every little damage. a cracker will do magor illagle things, like steal bank cards, steal files, shut down sites, ect.

o yea a nomad is a person who wonders around.

Feb 14th, 2001, 03:15 PM
hacker - 1. cut with repeated irregular blows
2. cough in a short dry manner
3. manage successfully

that's the definition of hack not hacker.

nukem996
Feb 14th, 2001, 03:16 PM
i did say breaks into ur computer. they can f*c|< it up if they want.

HarryW
Feb 14th, 2001, 03:24 PM
Well thanks but I already knew what a nomad was. I'm not asking what someone who wanders around is called, I'm saying that one old name for that type of person was a hacker.

barrk
Feb 14th, 2001, 03:43 PM
A little late but better late than never!

http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/02/14/kournikova.virus.02/index.html

parksie
Feb 14th, 2001, 04:12 PM
Unexpected :eek:

"It's horrifying," says Hypponen. "Someone who doesn't know how to programme can produce a virus that infects hundreds of thousands of computers.
It's program...duh...

HarryW
Feb 14th, 2001, 04:38 PM
From CNN too... programme is the British spelling, although in the case of computer programming I'd say it ought to be 'program' anyway.

Chris_SE
Feb 15th, 2001, 01:57 PM
I agree with parksie(I think he said it):

Hacker is someone who writes short, hard to read but effiecient code
Cracker is someone who breaks into systems
Script Kiddies Are users who use scripts found online to do things they don't undertand, you can usually spot a script kiddie by language like: we R cool d00dz

nukem996
Feb 15th, 2001, 02:28 PM
we both said that. and its true.

Lemon Lime
Feb 15th, 2001, 03:10 PM
I have an idea to VBS without using the OUTLOOK.
it probobly will not send itself to all of you'r friends if you dont use outlook. but IT CAN WORK ON WEBMAIL!!!

just use vbs on html!!!
send the vicious html to you'r "friend" and then the VBS would run!!!

just that EZ!!!

nukem996
Feb 15th, 2001, 03:19 PM
make a e-mail program that blind mails to every combination of every char on ur keybord. say its from Microsoft fixes, e-mail fixes@microsoft.com
message.
we see ur useing microsoft products plz run this program to fix some errors in them.

attach: fixes.vbs

they run it u put in a progress bar that moving and its a virus, i bet every one would fall for it.

yeah i know microsoft would neaver do it, but most ppl will belive it.

Lemon Lime
Feb 15th, 2001, 03:24 PM
NICE idea!!!
but i dont think i would try to fix somethig that is not broken...

barrk
Feb 15th, 2001, 03:27 PM
What are you guys thinking???? You have absolutely NO business talking about this stuff here.

Get Serious!

nukem996
Feb 15th, 2001, 03:49 PM
the fix would be a virus really.
of coure no ones gona do it cause fbi or 00's would catch u.

John
Feb 15th, 2001, 03:50 PM
I don't think that this is the place that you should be discussing how to create malicious code. If you want to do that do it somewhere else. This forum is for VB help and creative (not destructive) discussion about VB code.

Thanks!

John