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msdnexpert
Feb 4th, 2001, 07:41 AM
Which is the best web browser?

compuGEEK
Feb 5th, 2001, 03:26 PM
By far, the best browser is IE!

kiesmithuk
Feb 5th, 2001, 05:14 PM
my own Browser ;-)

Wynd
Feb 5th, 2001, 06:27 PM
I like IE better.

sail3005
Feb 5th, 2001, 09:09 PM
i use multiple browsers, for testing my sites, and for viewing other peoples sites. Why can't every browser just support the w3c standards? what a wonderful world it would be...!

Feb 6th, 2001, 04:38 AM
IE every time. No matter how much we all despise Microshaft.

JoshT
Feb 6th, 2001, 06:45 AM
Netscape was a great company until AOL bought them. IE seems to support web standards better, so I think IE is better. I still like Netscape's email client, though. way fewer security holes than Outlook/OE.

Josh

Feb 6th, 2001, 06:52 AM
ideally what we all really want is a single standardised browser. I dont care who produces/markets it, but it needs to support all the relevant features currently available. it'd be nice if it had up to date flash support, CSS2 etc. one day, all of our internet glitches will be ironed out. the way things are going, its going to be down to IE

sail3005
Feb 6th, 2001, 08:06 AM
how about this, since no company can seem to get pages up to standards and such. Why doesn't an independent company/organization like w3c get together and write the base code for the browser like the html parser, css, javascript interpreters and all that stuff. then MS, ans NS can build their browser around that.

that way, even if it doesn't support everything right away at least all web pages will look the same!

too bad it will never happen....

Feb 6th, 2001, 09:31 AM
what a beautiful idea...:)

JoshT
Feb 6th, 2001, 10:25 AM
I would like there to be competing browsers, but they all must support the official standards. If they do support the official standards, then their producers could add as many proprietary features as they would want to.

Josh

Feb 6th, 2001, 10:30 AM
but decent proprietary features will end up as official standards...
and then where would we be? :confused:

MidgetsBro
Feb 7th, 2001, 03:08 PM
I used to care how my page looked in Netscape, until I got into using things like CSS and JavaScript. When I found out how hard it was to get it to work under both browsers, I just said screw it and dropped NutScrape. It was too much of a hassle. I have a warning on my main page of one of my sites that says, "If you are using anything other than IE, please leave!" That's how I feel about netscape.

sail3005
Feb 7th, 2001, 08:27 PM
yeah, it is hard to figure, i guess it all depends on who is going to be using your site. I am still suprised at the amount of people that use netscape. Most of the people i talk to on the internet use IE, but most of the people i know use NS. So i have to stick with both. Even though i don't really care for MS, their browser does support more, and i am tired of sacrificing functionality just to have support for netscape.

Rudy
Feb 7th, 2001, 10:02 PM
i used to have a webpage (no time for that anymore lol) and Netscape was the biggest pain in the ass, everytime i would come up with something cool it would work only in IE :( and Netscape crash too much lol they should like closed down :)

Feb 8th, 2001, 03:56 AM
I dont know how helpful this is, but I had to do a little browser research for a site I was building. have a look at

http://browserwatch.internet.com/news/story/news-990303-8.html

I'm not sure how up to date the stats are, but its quite eye opening...

bcx7
Feb 8th, 2001, 05:17 AM
I have to say IE is way better than Netscape. I know that Microsoft programs have bugs in them but if you have a stable machine (like the two of mine) they don't crash. We all payout Microsoft, but they make some of the best and easy-to-use programs. (Visual Basic - isn't this the point of VBWORLD? The only VB i've heard about is the Microsoft version.)

Thanks for listening/reading.

Feb 8th, 2001, 05:28 AM
its not so much that Microsoft is good or bad, but there's really no alternative, and if there were, it wouldnt be as widely used. I'm thinking specifically of the sort of people who say things like "i'm getting the Internet", without relly understanding the concept. These people would use IE because they would be unaware of any alternative. I'm not talking about stupid people (ignorant perhaps), but EVERYBODY has heard of Microsoft and a lot f people understand what their products are used for, whereas Tom, Dick or Harry in the street has probably never heard of Opera or Mozilla...

Bill Gates
Feb 12th, 2001, 02:31 AM
Personally, I prefer Netscape!

Feb 12th, 2001, 02:46 AM
Yep Internet Explorer is by far better!!!!! :)

Kira Roark
Feb 12th, 2001, 12:06 PM
Netscape is on the lonely road to nowhere, a slow, and painless death that will not be noticed by a sole.

Feb 13th, 2001, 04:12 AM
Like I say, I dont care who makes my browser as long as it works and does everything I need it to.

The only problem is the people I make sites for. You cant put a disclaimer on a site saying "If you're not viewing this in IE5, you can ***** off!"

(if only :D)

Feb 13th, 2001, 04:29 AM
Somethings just come up and I need a little help:

Im building a ite that incorporates a 4 frame set. The main frame includes a lot of text, but Netscape insists on applying a bottom scrollbar (unnecessary) along with a side scrollbar and it looks crappy.

Is there any way to remove it?

Feb 13th, 2001, 04:43 AM
whoops - problem solved. Thanks anyway.

Mark Sreeves
Feb 13th, 2001, 05:33 AM
One thing that anoys me about IE is that you can only have one version on your PC. This makes it a real pain when testing a website to make sure it renders OK in older browsers.

I have Netscape 3, 4 and 6 on my pc and
Internet Exploiter 5

(Yes I know it IS possible to write a VB ap using the IE3 webrowser component but that's not the point! I should be able to run multiple versions on a single PC!)

:(

On my PC IE5 stops responding in the afternoon so I then switch to Netscape 6 and it works fine.

Netscape is a pain though because my company uses Outlook for email and Netscape can't cope with that so mailto: links don't work.