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Matthew Gates
Jan 31st, 2001, 02:16 PM
The banner usually is on top...but it's here, in this thread now.
HarryW
Feb 1st, 2001, 09:21 AM
Wow, people are avoiding controversial topics now we have polls it seems. I thought you all loved a good fight ;)
JPRoy392
Feb 1st, 2001, 09:27 AM
Where is Gen-X when you need him? :)
Guv
Feb 2nd, 2001, 03:13 PM
The results so far are surprizing to me. I would never have guessed that over 40% are atheists.
Jeff_1
Feb 2nd, 2001, 07:06 PM
Goddamn it!!! jesus h. ****ing christ i cant believe that most of the votes are for atheists. ;) heh
normally I am light about things... but that really bugs me.... I say goddamnit, but I don't say God ******
they are different, God is God, god can refer to a greek god, or whatever, but God is a name, and it shouldn't be treated like that Jeffdamnit.
;)
same with Jesus Christ
I hate it when people use it in vein :mad:
Jeff_1
Feb 2nd, 2001, 07:29 PM
I thought you knew me by now... i dont do rude **** like this to be an ass... i do it just to get a rise out of people... dont take it personal..
BTW: Jeffdammit sounds cool .heh
I believe there is a god... but i have never spoke/seen him/her/whatever ..so i cant say i feel bad when someone/me uses god's name in vain... besides..if there is a god.. wouldnt he/she/whatever be above the use of insulting words such as goddamn?
I am not trying to say it is ok for me to say what i did..but i ma just getting a point across.
Jeffdamnit, you don't get the point, it doesn't matter if He minds or not, you're still using His name is veign, and it's not right, if you respect Something, you should never treat it like that Jeffdamnit...
;) ;) ;)
like I said, I use goddamnit, I may be wrong, but I would think that is something completely different, due to the fact that "god" in this sense is not His name...
could be wrong though
:confused:
nukem996
Feb 2nd, 2001, 07:38 PM
if god made all of us who made him?
nukem996
Feb 2nd, 2001, 07:42 PM
i think that we'll neaver know what or who made all of us. but god did come from long ago, they used god to explane what happend. for example, after a storm earth worms show up. people long ago thought that god sent them from the heavens. but now we know thats not true. they come out of the earth from the tunnel holes because they like the water.
and im really pissed off cause i cannt learn about the big band theory in school becuase of all those people.
nukem996
Feb 2nd, 2001, 07:42 PM
y every time something good happens its hes falt. but when something bad happens he neaver takes the blame?
think so?
Ever heard of an Act Of God?
and the reason He isn't blamed very much, is because He is everything, He made everything, He is our creator, and generally we don't complain about He who gave us life.
Why even ask who made Him?
If anybody ever did know, which they didn't, because God was created before everything, but if they did know, they would be dead now.
The Big Bang can also be viewed from a religious perspective, I beleive that God caused the big bang which in turn created all life.
nukem996
Feb 2nd, 2001, 08:00 PM
ever had a fight with your parents thier your creators, and everyone fights and blams thier parents.
not ultimatly. Who created them? their parents? etc. etc.
if it wasn't for God, none of them would exist, so ultimatly, God created everybody, your parents exist because previous generations, they exist because of God.
and all that evolution crap, if the lesser adapted species become exinct, then why are we(humans) here, along with apes?
nukem996
Feb 2nd, 2001, 08:19 PM
what if human scientist make a human. all u need to do it is the DNA and stuff, its possible and in England i think thier doing it.
so who created them?
nukem996
Feb 2nd, 2001, 08:24 PM
well what if we'er just a computer game/program and think we'er humans? what if we are some lab exparement in testing? "what if we'er just a grain of sand?" thier is a bunch of things we could be. this may sound crazy but, what if we'er all in the matrix and the movie was just a way to tell us we'er in it?
Jeff_1
Feb 2nd, 2001, 08:50 PM
Ever notice how you can never win an argument with someone is is religious??And then they try to force there views on you...and if that wasnt selfish enough..they say that you are "ignorant" or "evil" because you do not believe the same things that they do....Those are reasons enough for me not to be religious or go to church for whatever reason... no i am not atheist..nor do i believe in satan....i dont think that i have to go to a church where it depends on a material thing such as money..yet it claims to be a place of god...
i dont know...maybe geroge w. bush will make a new dollar bill that *he swears* will have god's true face on it..then he will completeley abolish the separation of church and state.
I assume all people are ignorant and evil before I ever hear them speak,
please refer to this thread:
http://forums.vb-world.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=224086#post224086
but, for expressing your opinions, you are not stupid or evil... infact, if you look at things logically, God cannot exist, I think this way, but I believe in God,
some poeple don't beleive in God, and I accept that, I cannot change them, but whether they like it or not they're going to hear my opinion, because where I live there is freedom of speach, and I am going to take every bit of advantage I can.
and the thing about the cloning.... God created them... God created the scientists, who in turn created the cloned person....
Oh my God, listen to all this crap I am talking.... I'm sorry everybody, I am just really upset right now..... I'm sorry..... I can't beleive I am saying these things, I usually don't, sure I beleive them, but I am starting to sound too religious, I beleive in God, and that he started life, but some of this crap is just a little too far.. I am so sorry.. I am very very upset at the moment and I am not thinking right at all.... I feel like getting drunk and going to sleep until vday is over.....
I'm sorry..... I'm just very upset..
crptcblade
Feb 2nd, 2001, 09:22 PM
I try not to believe that thereis a true God in the Christian/Catholic/Protestant sense. According to those religions, God sounds, I guess bi-polar would be the best way to describe it. He/She is all fine and happy and infinitely forgiving...that is until you do something "wrong". Then comes the ass-woopin'! Do you know that according to the Bible it is a sin to go to the bathroom??
I think everybody feels a certain drive to do something in their lifetime(whatever it may be...), and I think of God as a sort of guide to get you to your destination in life the right way. More or less like your conscience. So there is a differnet God for each of us.
Religion was created as a basis of law. To scare people into conformity and tolerance with threats of enternal torture. But you can see all over the world that it doesn't really work...People are confused about what God stands for anymore. Imagine, performing "God's work" by killing people. Doesn't make much sense to me...
I guess I'm just rambling, I'm bored and a little drunk...
BTW - If I'm wrong, I just repent on my death bed.
Jeff_1
Feb 2nd, 2001, 09:30 PM
Here is another "Religious thread"...and we are all going to have an opinion in it.
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