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gRob_AndDerSon
Aug 9th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Hi There guys, Can you give me some advice on how to approach the hr for
salary increase because another company offer me a compensation higher than what Im earning now. But I Love my work in this company, so what should I do

Im only 4 months here but my working experience is 1 year in Visual Basic .Net, is it right to ask for salary increase?

Im workinh on a Consultancy Firm and this is my second job

FunkyDexter
Aug 9th, 2007, 07:29 AM
You may want to have a look at my 'Should I stay or should I go now' thread as I 've just gone through a very similar quandry.

Generally I'd say you shouldn't use the offer from another company to get a pay rise out of your current company unless your actually giving very serious consideration to taking up the offer. Its likely to be viewed as a bit threatening and may not do your career at the currrent company any good if you then decide to stay.

But I don't see any problem with asking for a pay rise and not mentioning the other offer. You need to be able to justify that you're worth it and you need to be professional about it. Ideally you should wait until you get an official review but alot of comapnies don't bother with reviews so you may have to aproach your boss direct (which can be a bit daunting).

Another slightly dishonest trick that can make it a little easier to ask, pretend there's something in your life that's costing you more money. You're landlord put the rent up or something like that. This gives you a good reason for making the aproach in the first place so it doesn't look like your just chancing it for as much money as you can get.

Good Luck:thumb:

Hack
Aug 9th, 2007, 08:27 AM
If I were your boss and you asked for a raise after only 4 months, I probably would not be enthusiastic. When is your next review due?

RhinoBull
Aug 9th, 2007, 08:31 AM
If I were your boss and you asked for a raise after only 4 months, I probably would not be enthusiastic. When is your next review due?
I will second this opinion - 4 months is a little too little if you ask me. ;)
And with your experience you need to learn more and gather as much experience as you can - don't think money, it'll come later so don't force the issue.

Hack
Aug 9th, 2007, 09:42 AM
Rhino is right....it takes a while to prove yourself.

And, I don't care what kind of a "God" you are in one company, when you move to another company you are an unproven commodity and will need to prove yourself all over again.

This will happen EVERY time you switch jobs.

RhinoBull
Aug 9th, 2007, 11:08 AM
Rhino is right....it takes a while to prove yourself.

And, I don't care what kind of a "God" you are in one company, when you move to another company you are an unproven commodity and will need to prove yourself all over again.

This will happen EVERY time you switch jobs.
But I just got neg repped by the OP for telling the "reality of life" and btw with all due respect... :ehh:
Thank you Mr. gRob_AndDerSon - I hope you go and ask for your raise now. :rolleyes:

Unbelievable.

Hack
Aug 9th, 2007, 01:07 PM
But I just got neg repped by the OP for telling the "reality of life" Yeah, me too. Ain't life grand? :D

RhinoBull
Aug 9th, 2007, 01:30 PM
Welcome to the club! :) :lol:

gRob_AndDerSon
Aug 10th, 2007, 01:34 AM
Thanks guys for your opinions, The reason why I'm asking for a salary increase is because I want to help my parents with the expenses of our family. My current compensation is just enough for myself,even though sometimes I'm shorting of money.

And I think, I deserve it. Life for me is not fair, so I'm just being practical and do my best all of times.

FunkyDexter
Aug 10th, 2007, 06:44 AM
Yeah, me too.Hah, I got a +ive:p

Seriously Rob, I'm not sure my post deserved a positive rep but I'm damn sure Hack's and Rhino's didn't deserve negative ones.

RhinoBull
Aug 10th, 2007, 08:01 AM
Thanks FD for support. :)
Some people just don't like being told what they don't like to hear. On the other hand, why bother asking? Right? :rolleyes:

CodedFire
Aug 10th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Most places only offer a raise after a review period! This again is generaly a 1 year term i would advise against it after a 4 month period! You could end up making your job harder to do!

nemaroller
Aug 10th, 2007, 03:32 PM
And, I don't care what kind of a "God" you are in one company, when you move to another company you are an unproven commodity and will need to prove yourself all over again.

This will happen EVERY time you switch jobs.

So if Anders Hejlsberg came to your company, you would call him unproven?

brad jones
Aug 27th, 2007, 08:09 AM
I know this thread is a couple of weeks old, but I had to respond....

I'd be curious to know whether you (gRob_AndDerSon) asked for the raise.

If someone I hired asked for more money after four months, it would raise a red flag for me. If you wanted -- or believed you were worth -- more money, then why didn't you ask for it four months earlier when you agreeed to take the job.. If you had done your research at that time, then you should have been able to determine your worth. You should not have agreed to the job unless you were going to commit to it for the price paid.

If you said they treated you unfairly, that the hours were not what you expected, that the job wasn't what you expected, then I'd support the consideration of changing jobs, but to leave solely for money in such little time is likely to come back to haunt you later. To ask for more money without being prepared to leave could also come back to haunt you.

Say you ask and the boss says no. Now he might always wonder if you are always going to be looking at other jobs and always. His commitment to you could go down. Worse yet, say that they don't believe your performance is that great. They may tell you to pack your stuff and go enjoy the new job.

Down the road, people are going to look at your resume/CV and ask the question -- why were you at this job for only four or five months? That is going to look like there was an issue. You wouldn't want to tell them you left because you wanted more money because again, that shows lack of commitment on your part. Generally when someone leaves a job in less than a year, then there was something unusual that happened.....

In summary - unless it was a truckload of money, I think you should be careful on what you do. When you get near a review period, it hurts a little less to drop comments about what others make; however, that usually doesn't happen before a year at a job.

Finally - I should also mention that if you are only looking at the dollars being paid, then you will eventually get burned. You should look at other items like insurance, time off, hours you have to work, amount of education and training provided, retirement benefits, the type of people you work with, etc. I'd work for less money if some of these other benefits are there.

So let me end by asking -- did you ask for a raise? :)

Brad!

brad jones
Aug 27th, 2007, 08:10 AM
So if Anders Hejlsberg came to your company, you would call him unproven?

If the job was for flipping burgers, then I'd have to say yes..... ;) :D

Brad!