>>>ATTENTION ALL YOUNG PROGRAMMERS!!!!<<<

ATTENTION ALL YOUNG PROGRAMMERS!!
I have started a Freeware/Shareware company for YOUNG PROGRAMMERS, and I'm looking for voluntary members. If you join and contribute to a project you will get a cut of the profit (if there is any). Anyone interested should E-Mail me AS SOON AS POSSIBLE or add to this thread:
ricmitch_uk@yahoo.com or visit te website below (yeah I know the stuff on there is crap, but I'm better now... honest ;) )
This is a great opertunity to help and learn from each other. (Cliché!).
You don't even have to be a great programmer, anyone with a basic knowledge of VB QBASIC or even BBC BASIC is welcome.

Thanks. - ricmitch_uk age 15
ricmitch_uk@yahoo.com
http://switchsoftware.scriptmania.com/
:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

Define young, please. Do you mean those who are temporally
challenged, or those who have been doing it for a short
time?

Any particular reason you don't want old farts?

[HarryW]

Temporally challenged.... I like that :)

When I say young I mean someone who has an age of less than 19 years, no matter what their ability. The only reason I don't want old farts is because I want the company to have young people with fresh ideas who are prepared to work as a group who will get on well with each other. I also have no respect for my elders.

[HarryW]

Then they will likely have no respect for you. It seems strange that I am classified as an 'old fart' at age 19, but if that's what you think, then good luck getting on well with everyone :rolleyes:

Sorry Harry. I don't mean to cause offence by this post... just meet some people who can join the company. If you don't like what I've said then complain... just not on this thread!!

"fresh ideas" hmmmmmmm.....maybe. Most likely tho, "re-
invent the wheel"

[wey97]

I was programming while you were in diapers.
I'll show you old fart you little f**k!

[JPRoy392]

Maybe this ricmitch_uk guy likes little boys. *****ing pervert!

[Xenonic_Rob]

Originally posted by wey97
I was programming while you were in diapers.
I'll show you old fart you little f**k!


I hope that was a joke...

[Xenonic_Rob]

Originally posted by JPRoy392
Maybe this ricmitch_uk guy likes little boys. *****ing pervert!

I hope that was a joke as well...

[JPRoy392]

Orginally posted by ricmitch_uk:

When I say young I mean someone who has an age of less than 19 years, no matter what their ability. The only reason I don't want old farts is because I want the company to have young people with fresh ideas who are prepared to work as a group who will get on well with each other. I also have no respect for my elders.

JPRoy392! If you have nothing better to do than spend your time sat infront of your moniter trying to interpret innocent threads making them sound like I'm a perv you lead a VERY SAD LIFE INDEED. I'm not some kind of sicko, all I want to do is meet some people my own age who have similar interests. Is that so wrong?
PS.
IS ANYONE INTERESTED IN THIS THREAD APART FROM TO INSULT ME?

[paulw]

Nope - you young whippersnapper you.

Not me. I live for insults, although usually they're aimed
at JP or Dennis.

[JPRoy392]

I never thought that at age 27 that I would be considered an old fart. Ricmitch is an infantile little cry baby. You show signs of your immaturity by using phrases like "...The only reason I don't want old farts is because I want the company to have young people with fresh ideas ..." and "...I also have no respect for my elders...."

Why would anyone want to work with you or for you? If age determines how fresh your ideas are, then I think that you are missing something.

Why don't you go play with your Play Station 2 and listen to some BackStreet Boys CD's or something. I'm sure that mommy and daddy got you that really cool poster of N'Sync for Christmas. Why don't you just butter your corn to that! (Age discrimination is a b!tch, isn't it?)

Well there goes another New Years Resolution to treat people nice. And it is only the third day of the year!

[zmerlinz]

i think that we should give him some support, come on Kovans company http://www.alkitab.net is going strong (which i am a part of). but as for having fresh ideas from kids i think that you would be better off employing anyone from any age range, because the "older generation" have been here for longer nad understand things more,
JP - i think that he prefers Westlife

and why the hell does he live up a Male sheep Arse ?

[JPRoy392]

I never even heard of Westlife!! I had to look them up on http://www.google.com . Maybe I really am an old fart. :)

Where's my walking stick? I have to go to lunch.

[zmerlinz]

i wish i was that ignorant, i hate pop music

bTw ricmitch_uk, your link to your website don't work, just thought i would tell u

Sorry I've fixed the link You can now get to my website via.
http://switchsoftware.scriptmania.com/

Nice page, ric.

Thanx DerFarm. Sahme about the crap downloads though. I made most of them years ago in QBASIC.
PS. Westlife Suck only girls like them. Tey can't play instruments, they can't sing, they can't even mime! If someone likes them they deserve to be shot.

[JPRoy392]

Website isn't too bad. Good luck with your business.

JPRoy392 thinks to himself "today was not a good day to quit drinking coffee."

"Where's my wheelchair?"

Don't put yourself down too much JPRoy392 You're not ancient, hell you've not even hit middle age yet.

[barrk]

You have no idea what knowledge and companionship you will miss if you limit the amount of people who are worthy of your time.....you brat!

[JPRoy392]

Katie, are you calling me a brat?

[Benjamin]

ricmitch:

Please do not call anyone older than 19 an old fart.... no I am not over 19, I am 14, but I have quite a few friends that are over 19.... one is 27 and he's a hell of a lot more fun, and smarter than any 14 year old I know.


Why don't you go play with your Play Station 2 and listen to some BackStreet Boys CD's or something. I'm sure that mommy and daddy got you that really cool poster of N'Sync for Christmas. Why don't you just butter your corn to that! (Age discrimination is a b!tch, isn't it?)


Jim is right... I hate when people think of me as a "normal teenager"... ****ing stereotypes piss me off.... they just assume "we" are all alike....
just like you assumed that all peoples over 19 are old farts....

and Jim, backstreet boys isn't really the "thing" anymore.... now it's rap :( horrible, horrible HORRIBLE... I hate that music..... I hate those "boy bands" too, but I would rather listen to them then rap...... god I hate rap......

and one more thing, I never heard of westlife either.... and I don't think I want to know... :p


ricmitch_uk:
I might think about joining your group... do you accept C++ programmers?
I can program in DOS as well as windows.

[barrk]

JPRoy...I wasn't calling you a brat...you've always treated everyone like a person...regardless of their age...as far as I know! Didn't mean to upset you.

[JPRoy392]

You could never upset me, Katie. Just for the record, I think that the "younger" generation is in great hands because of level-headed programers that are on this web site. There are plenty of talented young programmers that visit this site often enough that one neophyte can not ruin the bunch. I just like to bust them because for some reason, no one will admit that they listen to the BackStreet Boys and N'Sync, yet their record sales are though the roof!

Have a peaceful new year everyone!

[HarryW]

*Looks innocent* It wasn't me :rolleyes: I have very different musical tastes to that, just check the lyrics thread to see for yourself.

[barrk]

It was every single one on my daughter's girlfriends

Sure Benjamin mail me for more details! Everyone is welcome. You're the first person to actually express any interest in this. Come on everyone, jump on board!

If you're less than 19, that is.

[HarryW]

Looks like it's zimmer frame shopping for me tomorrow :rolleyes:

[barrk]

Originally posted by ricmitch_uk
Sure Benjamin mail me for more details! Everyone is welcome. You're the first person to actually express any interest in this. Come on everyone, jump on board!


Could that possibly be because you come across as a spoiled, arrogant brat????????

[parksie]

Do I detect a hint of friction between you two? :rolleyes:

[barrk]

Just read the entire thread. The question answers itself.

[parksie]

I did read the thread...I was being slightly cynical / sarcastic / whatever you want to call it.

rcmitch_uk - I really think you might benefit from being a little more tactful in your wording ;)

Yeah, and Attila the Hun could have been a little less
aggressive.

[JPRoy392]

Katie, for the record, you can call me a brat anytime you want!

[barrk]

If I felt that way about you I would but...you seem like a very sensible, intelligent and humorous young man! Unlike the author of this thread.

Hey JP, can I call you a brat?


BRAT
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[parksie]

Shall we have a big brat-fest? I'll continue:

brat
brat
brat
brat
bratwurst
bratwurst mit currysosse
bratwurst ohne alles

[JPRoy392]

Sure, why not! I'm drinking coffee again so the world is ok. No one could possibly p!ss me off today. I love caffine!

And I am a brat.

[JPRoy392]

we sure are killing this thread. seems like all the young programmers are off somewhere else.

[parksie]

They've all gone to join rmitch_uk's company... :rolleyes:

[Benjamin]

I'm here... been reading the thread real close.... just not posting.... ;)

[barrk]

Originally posted by JPRoy392
we sure are killing this thread. seems like all the young programmers are off somewhere.

They certainly are.

[Benjamin]

huh?

[HarryW]

My point exactly.

[barrk]

Not you Dennis....for some reason I don't think of you as a typical "young programmer"

[Benjamin]

huh?
I still don't understand why the bold "off"

do you possibly mean wrong or something..?


sorry for being so slow, I am a little tired today... and I have one helluva headache :(

[HarryW]

I try not to think of Dennis if I can help it.

[Jareware]

This was a while ago but anyways...

Originally posted by zmerlinz
Merlin ¿
"I am not vegetarian because I don't like meat, I am vegetarian because I don't like plants."


Where did you see that vegetarian thing? Just curious, I saw it in a bumper sticker a few weeks ago and laughed my brains out of my head (that's why I keep posting messages like this :)). I've got to come up with a signature like that. And "Live long and prosper" is alrady taken... darn...

PS. This thread has been delightful to follow. Keep up the good work!


-JR-

[Benjamin]

Why do you do that H?
:rolleyes:

[barrk]

Originally posted by Benjamin

do you possibly mean wrong or something..?


Yes, Dennis I mean..

a few sandwiches short of a picnic

all their dog's aren't on one leash


etc. etc. etc........

[Benjamin]

oh, that clears things up..... :)

*Dennis tries to find bottle of advil or tylenol :(*

[HarryW]

What kind of nutter keeps more than one dog on a leash?

[SteveCRM]

Just one quick question...if your company is "switch" then why is your symbol a globe?

p.s. JP...brat...sorry had to join the fun :)

Am I the only one who is interested?!

Nope Fuzzy. I've had 2 e-mails so far from ppl who are intested. There is a meeting 4 NE1 interested 2Day on Yahoo! chat at 19:00 GMT (14:00 ET). Search for the user name ricmitch_uk and enter the room 2 find out more.

In the meantime NE1 can e-mail me @:
ricmitch_uk@yahoo.com
or ICQ me @:
103572071
See Y'all later.

[BoB]

hey man i have a young team of programmer you can join. http://www.psyvision-soft.net we are all tite in the company and alot of us has alot of talet e-mail me if you are welling to join ..

[BoB]

ummm, i quess that every one that is making cracks at somthing that he is taing very professinal , is i guess a 3 year old i know they arnt 19 because if they where they whould be more merture . i mean im only 15 and i quess i am more mutrue( cant spell)

[zmerlinz]

Originally posted by Jareware
This was a while ago but anyways...

Originally posted by zmerlinz
Merlin ¿
"I am not vegetarian because I don't like meat, I am vegetarian because I don't like plants."


Where did you see that vegetarian thing? Just curious, I saw it in a bumper sticker a few weeks ago and laughed my brains out of my head (that's why I keep posting messages like this :)). I've got to come up with a signature like that. And "Live long and prosper" is alrady taken... darn...

-JR-

i got it from joke of the day, and i thought that it was hillarious, thanks

[Jareware]

Yes, it is...


-JR-

[HarryW]

I am so 19, and mature, and I'll kick yer ass to prove it! ;)

(Just kidding in case you hadn't guessed)

Seriously though, do you think I jest unjustly? Gotta admit he was asking for it, with the attitude an all. Well the attitude that came across in text anyway, maybe there isn't one in RL.

[BoB]

The kid was serious and the people made fun of him , how do you think he feels i hate people that just make fun of people that try to do somthing for there lifes in the world . DO you seriously think that a mature/perfessional person whould make fun of someone because they where serious, i dont think so .

[HarryW]

Riiight..... so you think that it is mature and professional to call anybody more than 4 years older than you an old fart? You think that it is not in the least bit disrespectful, or even insulting to insinuate that said elders' ideas are less 'fresh', and even that they would not be able to get along with the other members of the group?

Hardly a professional or mature outlook. More than that, it's pretty ridiculous, which is the very point which I wanted to make, in a jovial kind of way.

Essentially, he insulted the majority of the forum members, and a lot of them haven't taken too kindly to it. Merely a human reaction, not an immature one. Besides, he doesn't need you to defend him, he's got no respect for anything anybody says anyway.

[Jareware]

I'm with Harry (although a not that contributing participant in the thread, but who cares). If someone offends you, (to my opinion) you certainly have the right to offend him back. And I doubt that this thread left any everlasting scars on him anyway.


-JR-

[Benjamin]

I would call Harry an old fart, but not necesarily everybody 19 or older... :rolleyes:

but seriously.. I am around the same agegroup as ricmitch,but I think he was acting like an ass....

[HarryW]

Well gee, thanks :)

[Benjamin]

I was just kidding H..... :p

[drewski]

I was programming while you were in diapers.
I'll show you old fart you little f**k!

Just curious, how old are you wey97?


drewski

[KnIgHt]

for a bunch of *old farts* you are pretty immature. I guess i'm going to be considered an *old fart* in another 2 years but right now i'm probably more mature than half of you. I think you should keep your rude comments to yourself and not try to put down the young ones learning. I've been programing since i was 8 years old in like 7 different programming languages and I'm still learning. So let us young ones be...We appreciate all the support and help that you *old farts* offer to us for the ones in training and I hope you will continue with your generous time and help.

As to the original post of this message, I would gladly like to help you out with your business. Right now I have absolutely no reason to program but for fun. If i could make a little profit that would be great.

d00d, you can email me back at Admin@ghostknights.com

l8tz

[parksie]

I didn't appreciate him calling others "old farts" just because they have maturity. It's a sign of that maturity that we don't like things like this!

BTW I'm only 17 and have been programming for 11 years...

[KnIgHt]

those that are mature would ignore a small offence like calling elders *old farts*.

In point of fact, the first person to use term old fart was
myself....I turned 50 a few days ago.

My personal disgust stems from the calm assumption that the
only "new" ideas can come from someone under a specified
age. It has been my experience that someone that young
does not have new ideas, but rather rediscovers old ones.

It is true that the great advances in computing languages
and OS's have (generally speaking) come from younger
minds. But these younger minds were in their late 20's and
early 30's when this occurred. They also had an enormous
amount of theory under their belts, and not just about
programming.

The underlying premise of "fresh ideas" due to youth is
flawed.

[KnIgHt]

that may be that we do rediscover old ideas....hell, i just finished writing a program to lock your system up untill a password is entered a few minutes ago.....it works perfectly....thats an old idea...its just redesigned in a way that I find it most effecient for use. Let him just have his fun....If he just wants the youth to be programming for him...let him be....this should be a concern only for him. If in your opinion you think that new ideas come from the more experienced and the wiser then you can stick with it....i'm not complaining....i just think you should let everyone decide for themselves what they want.

[barrk]

I'm with you DerFarm. What bothered me most was the idea that no ideas of value could possible come from someone over 18.

[KnIgHt]

he didn't say specifically that people over 18 or whatever didn't have new or fresh ideas......he just said that he wants younger people because of their new ideas....

in someway it is true that the younger people have new ideas.....why do you think that kids can amuse themselves for hours on end playing by themselves....they have excelent imaginations....the older you get.....the less creativity you have....i'm not saying that old people don't know how to make new stuff...i just mean that mind of a child is filled with millions of thoughts that can be brought out to the surface fast for new ideas.

[parksie]

Yeah...it's a bit of a blow to morale to find that in 6 months' time you'll suddenly find yourself "useless".

[HarryW]

What he said was ridiculous, and it is certainly not immature to point it out. Bloody hell, who gives a **** who's being 'mature' anyway? Why bother when you could just have fun instead? If I was 12 I would still think what he said was stupid, and I wasn't particularly mature then.

Well bollocks to it anyway. I'm gonna enjoy myself, and if you think I'm being immature then that's your problem, and you deserve it.

[KnIgHt]

the whole point of this message post was for the guy who posted it to get some guyz around his own age to work together..... put it this way.........Would anyone older who has pretty much no time on their hands really want to try to start a company with a kid?

Its just something fun for teens to do....i personally enjoy programming....this is the perfect oportunity for others to learn and feel good about themselves once they've done something good.....

anywayz
l8tz

[HarryW]

I am a teen, at least for a few months yet.

[Benjamin]

I can understand only wanting to work with your age group, but that doesn't mean that any other age group should have been called a name.

[KnIgHt]

just let it go....jese....who cares..this whole conversation is so stupid...

[Joey72]

Can you put the (cant spell) though the entire post BoB...you cant spell for cacca.

Originally posted by BoB
ummm, i quess that every one that is making cracks at somthing that he is taing very professinal , is i guess a 3 year old i know they arnt 19 because if they where they whould be more merture . i mean im only 15 and i quess i am more mutrue( cant spell)

[planeswalker99]

Is this thread dead?

I'm a real sucker for the underdog, and this guy seems like he is getting POUNDED! Its pretty painful to watch... er read.

Uh, wait a sec. I was JUST going to stick up for the guy, but then I reread his posts. Man, he was being rude! He may not have been the first to call people old fart (and only said it in response to DerFarm [Nice Temporally Challened thing by the way]) but he just got more and more aggressive after that.

It is understandable though. He just wanted to make a post to recrute like-minded individuals, and instead he gets flamed up the wazoo (fun word).

So do us all a favor please, and cut the (now absent from this post) guy some slack and let this post dive to depths of the board where it belongs.

By the way, I am 18, Programming for 3 years, a relativly nice guy, oh and ... PLEASE DON'T HATE ME!

That is all.

[Zero]

I know why he wants people under 18. I've run up against people doing this before. Both mentally and legally people under 18 (minors) are easier to exploit, and it's easier to steal their ideas claiming they belong to "the company." I'd be careful if I were you...

~Zero the Inestimable

I don't want exploit people! All I want to do is start a group that programs in its spare time and produces freeware/shareware and everyone who works on it gets a cut of the profit depending on how much work they did. I'm not gonna get into any copyright rows with anyone!

I didn't come up with the phrase Old Fart. DerFarm did:

Define young, please. Do you mean those who are
temporally challenged, or those who have been doing it
for a short time?

Any particular reason you don't want old farts?

When I said it I was only quoting him. I just don't know how to do those quote things.

[tumblingdown]

I hadn't read this thread 'till now.
It had such a promising start. The first dozen or so posts were hilarious. What happened?

td.

[ricmitch_uk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know this thread is dead, (I'm a poet and I didn't know it). I just thought I'd start it up again, so everyone can be entertained by the wild insults thrown at me.

[billfaceuk]

Originally posted by ricmitch_uk
When I say young I mean someone who has an age of less than 19 years, no matter what their ability. The only reason I don't want old farts is because I want the company to have young people with fresh ideas who are prepared to work as a group who will get on well with each other. I also have no respect for my elders.

19 ain't exactually young...well it is to most people on this site!

[ricmitch_uk]

Well why do you think they were hastling me then?

[Pix]

What's going on here then? Who's hastling who and why? I'm too lazy to read the previous three pages

[barrk]

Mr ricmitchuk started this thread by insulting everyone who was over the age of 18 saying that they( us old farts) had nothing to offer (and he had absolutely no respect for any old people) and were totally useless (paraphrasing obviously) and it set off a flame war....then he acted like he couldn't understand why people were angry with him.:rolleyes: :eek: :mad:

[parksie]

Whatever...he seems to have settled down now so dropping it might be a good idea :rolleyes:

[chrisjk]

Glad I didn't get involved with this one...damn.

[Good Dreams]

Originally posted by parksie
Whatever...he seems to have settled down now so dropping it might be a good idea :rolleyes:

Thanks to you, I'll say nothing. But if I did, I would exploded anyway..

drop it my ass...

[parksie]

Do I detect a small rebellious streak there GD? I think I'm going to like you.... ;)

[chrisjk]

Originally posted by Goodreams
drop it my ass...Try matching the colour then we wouldn't have been able to see that...:rolleyes:

[Good Dreams]

Originally posted by parksie
Do I detect a small rebellious streak there GD? I think I'm going to like you.... ;)

I odn't know if that's good or bad. But
It's really better I don't say anything. Tomorrow it's the first day of school of the second period and I could eat a teacher alive. And today, in my last day of holidays, I run up with this ****ing thread, and...

silence is better...

[Beacon]

Your all BRATS.;)
haha Suck it Down.
Good idea on Starting your own business.$$$ ususally but most likelly $$$debt!

BRATS BRATS BRATS BRATS BRATS

[SurfDemon]

Originally posted by Goodreams

Tomorrow it's the first day of school of the second period and I could eat a teacher alive

Yeah, I felt the same way about the girls gym instructer (ess) when I was at school.

SD

[JasonLpz]

I would love to join just tell me hen how where nd ill do it. I am 16 (male) hehe :D

[Radar]

I'm lots older than most of you young sprites and I have alot of fresh/new ideas........Trouble is, I usually forget most of 'em about 10 minutes or less after I think 'em up :(

Hey rickmitch.....seriously.......good luck on the new venture....I'm hereby granting you young fellows 1 year from today to crank out some real kick-ass software :)

The VB Continuum will be watching..........

[Jamagei]

Yeah, just gonna throw in my bit, The idea is not a bad one i grant you, but it was a bit ill worded don't you think? And the bit saying that you have no respect for your elders, why is that? I mean what's the problem with your elders?

And what i wanna know is how do you propose to make money from freeware :confused:

(j/king)

[ricmitch_uk]

This one of the most misunderstood points on this thread, I didn't actually use the term old farts first, DerFarm did, when I used it I was just quoting him.
Originally posted by DerFarm
Define young, please. Do you mean those who are temporally
challenged, or those who have been doing it for a short
time?

Any particular reason you don't want old farts?

[Pix]

Hmmm...I don't think age matters but good luck anyway ricmitch_uk

[Jamagei]

ummm, i misunderstood nothing. i know you didn't start with the old farts thing, i was just curious as to why you have no respect for your elders as quoted in your intial post...

it had nothing to do with the fact that some one said old farts and it got blown out of proportion.

So why don't you have respect for your elders? and why do you think that only young people have fresh ideas? or is it that you wanted to come across as a non-conformist and wanted to sound like a rebel, and go into 'extreme programming' and not have anyone looking over your shoulder helping you with mistakes that you are gonna make....

[FirstKnight]

I wonder how old Einstein was when he thought up the theory of relativity?
:D

[Pix]

Do we care? :D

[ricmitch_uk]

I needed to think of an excuse for why I didn't want older ppl, it was the first thing that came to mind. Hey I was young and stupid then. I just want to work with ppl I'll get on with better and who won't try and be all: "I'm right 'cos I've worked for friggin' Dell for 15 years!!"
Y'know.

[drewski]

hey i think the old farts have more to them than some people think. like they've gone through most of their lives and they know what they want and what to look for while us youngsters are still developing and educated opinion.

just my 2 cents worth

[KnIgHt]

I'm horney:)!:D

[Jamagei]

Originally posted by ricmitch_uk
I needed to think of an excuse for why I didn't want older ppl, it was the first thing that came to mind.Hey I was young and stupid then. I just want to work with ppl I'll get on with better and who won't try and be all: "I'm right 'cos I've worked for friggin' Dell for 15 years!!"
Y'know.

Then!?! :D

[ricmitch_uk]

Hey, I'm like a cheese, I mature with age. And get smellier. :D