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CadDragon
Dec 26th, 2000, 07:48 PM
Just wondering, are there any other WWF (or wrestling in general) fans in the wonderful world of VB? If so, who's your fav?
Sophtware
Dec 26th, 2000, 09:04 PM
I dont watch it as much as a used to because the story line nowadays is so damn lame.
I mean everyone you want to win ..never does.. and the people you hate are the winners all the time...
My fav. wrestler is stone cold steve austin.. he drinks beer, he gives everyone the finger..he talks **** to the boss, he cusses.. whatever the boss tells him to do he does the exact opposite and then kics the bosses ass ;).
Did you see last weeks smackdown? when austin was supposedly *punished* for beating up the refferee..so the boss made austin a ref for the match between hardcore holly and william regal... hahaha he had two beers in one hand the whole time! hahaha that was cool.
CadDragon
Dec 26th, 2000, 09:33 PM
I have to completely agree with you on the storylines... About this time last year, they were smoking, even with Stone Cold gone. I think the storyline would pick up a bit if they killed out the Stephanie/HHH marriage thing, and got rid of Right To Sensor... They've dragged those out WAAAY too long. Hey, got a question for ya. Do you have trouble hearing the announcers on Smackdown. I have no trouble on RAW, but Smackdown is drowned out too much by the crowd. Is it just my area? or is it everywhere???
Sophtware
Dec 26th, 2000, 11:26 PM
Hmmm i dont see what your problem could be...
The only thing that i have a problem with is sometimes, when one of the superstars will cuss...you hear them cuss and then the bleep.. like the censorship guardian is a tad bit late on bushing the bleep button.
Not that i want them to stop cussing..but if they are going to bleep it out..they should go that extra mile and actually bleep it out at the right time.
Here's a reference that might interest you guys:
http://www.1wrestlinglegends.com/index2.html
I must say, however, that it's certainly not complete. Not
much mention of Haystack Calhoun, and NO mention of his
country cousin "The Needle" .... otherwise known as
DerFarm
Sophtware
Dec 27th, 2000, 03:27 PM
You dont like anything do you?
DerFarm.. i admit.. i am a wrestling poser... but i still like to watch it.
I like it too. It's applied dance. Kinda like Ballet with
blood. Where else can you see 450lb men jump off a 5ft
rope on top of somebody and no one gets hurt?
The current crop of rasslers are not as good as they were
27 years ago. But this isn't something just any fat guy
can do.
CadDragon
Dec 28th, 2000, 07:54 AM
I know it's mostly choreographed (however you spell it), but it's still unreal to watch how they do some of this crap without getting seriously injured.
Kinda like a Soap Opera, just with a lot more testosterone (however you spell that)
No mostly about it, son, it's ALL choreographed. These
guys go to school for about 6 months to learn the basics
and then join a junior circuit.
Sophtware
Dec 28th, 2000, 10:52 AM
But you have to love those unplanned punches and chair shots and bottle breakings...
Like that match between the big boss man and hardcodre holly (i think )...holley grabbed a class pitcher of water and threw it right at bossman's face and when it broke some of the glass went in bossmans eye!!! arrrrghhh did you see how fast his eye swelled up? ick...
And sometimes when the wrestlers are exghanging blows..you can sometimes here a loud "bap" hehehe those well planned fake punches actually turn into a real punch ;)
CadDragon
Dec 28th, 2000, 01:22 PM
Choreographed or not, these guys take a serious beating, J.R. does a report every Friday called the Ross Report (http://www.wwf.com/news/rossreport/), it's posted on the WWF (http://www.wwf.com) website.
It has details of injured wrestlers as far as what REALLY happened to them, not just what they tell you on the show.
You just have to keep in mind, quoting Vince McMahon himself, "Professional wrestling is not a competition, but an exhibition.".
[Edited by CadDragon on 12-28-2000 at 02:27 PM]
Jareware
Dec 28th, 2000, 11:06 PM
It sucks
-JR-
No, professional cricket sucks. Wrestling merely blows.
HarryW
Dec 29th, 2000, 01:09 PM
Well at least it's not as bad as baseball.
CadDragon
Dec 29th, 2000, 02:44 PM
My assumption tells me that not too many people in the computer world are also into wresting....True?
Probably. Most are wusses. Especially the sherry sippers
from the South of England.
Sophtware
Dec 29th, 2000, 03:26 PM
Ok mind telling me how the game of cricket is played? ;)
?
Oh, please! not that! Anything but that!
Jareware
Dec 29th, 2000, 09:04 PM
I mean, I just can't believe my eyes when I turn to UPN and I see those guys jumping around the ring and making clowns of themselves, and people cheering for them. It would have SOME idea if the wrestlers were actually kicking each others ass but it's just a play. Guess it's one of those only-in-america things...
-JR-
YoungBuck
Dec 29th, 2000, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Jareware
I mean, I just can't believe my eyes when I turn to UPN and I see those guys jumping around the ring and making clowns of themselves, and people cheering for them.
Why else would you tune to UPN???
Wrestling is like the heterosexual ballet, there's only two reasons I watch TV anymore, WWF and South Park. There is just nothing more entertaining on TV. It is just about the only "sport" left that has any entertaining qualities, every other sport is full of whining, crying, pu$$ies who have no loyalties, and sure in wrestling you have those to, but at least you get to see them get their ass kicked. Then again maybe I love it because I'm just a big old REDNECK!!
HarryW
Dec 30th, 2000, 12:44 PM
Sopht - I could, but for the sake of what remains of DerFarm's sanity I won't ;)
I kinda like wrestling by the way, especially the womens' mud version :D *Ahem* I used to watch WCW when it was on terrestrial TV here in England a few years ago, and I occasionally watch WWF now that's on.
Over there in the US (where else) there's a kind of underground extreme version of the wrestling on TV where they actually do get the **** kicked out of them. They put drawing pins on the canvas and stuff. It's still an exhibition and all choreographed, but they don't pull any punches. You figure out the psychology of it all. Only in America folks ;)
Sophtware
Dec 30th, 2000, 04:25 PM
I think you are talking about ECW harry (Extreme challenge wrestling) this is where WWF and ECW got all the *hardcore matches* and all the real violence from.
ECW is fing crazy...they sent tables on fire..and they slam each other through them...they do everything.... it is cool.
Jareware
Dec 30th, 2000, 08:31 PM
I tune to UPN to watch ST: Voyager that starts immediately after that WWF crap every thursday I think.
-JR-
YoungBuck
Dec 30th, 2000, 10:43 PM
I used to loved the original Star Trek and Next Generation but I've totally lost any hope in that series with Deep Space 9 & Voyager, that is truly horrible TV.
Sophtware
Dec 31st, 2000, 12:20 PM
I thought DS9 was pretty good... at least that series is halfway believeable... i mean come on... with ST Voyager..
they are stuck in a ship 200,0000 lightyears away from home... and they are still surviving?! :eek: no one is that resoruceful.. not even in the future..
HarryW
Dec 31st, 2000, 12:28 PM
Too right, Voyager sucks. DS9 is good, especially when the station gets attacked and they break out all the retro-fitted weapon turrets ;)
parksie
Dec 31st, 2000, 12:47 PM
DS9 is great fun - I like those turrets too :) That huge battle between them, the klingons, and the dominion was outstanding.
Voyager - they had The Rock in one of their episodes :D
G.Kumaraguru
Dec 31st, 2000, 04:56 PM
KIDS Enough...
Enough Watching Wrestling...Go do You Work...
Jareware
Dec 31st, 2000, 06:45 PM
I know, the episode with the Rock was on just a few weeks ago or so. Thank god for his small role in it...
PS. ST:Vgr rules.
-JR-
Sophtware
Jan 1st, 2001, 03:57 PM
I forgot how awesome those effects were when the station went into battle...
Even though i like wrestling... i thought it was kind of dumb that the rock was on ST votager as a ..wait let me guess,, a futuristic wrestler... at least they could have gave him a role of like some kind of space pirate king or something.
;););)
Jareware
Jan 1st, 2001, 04:36 PM
Well, that woulda been kinda ok too. But he didn't have that big of a role anyway so it don't matter. I know it's not that realistic that one single ship, lost a couple of thousand lightyears from home in an environment that's totally unkown to them, can survive. Altough the goal of a scifi series has never been to be completely realistic, it's science FICTION after all. And I like the crew of Voyager.
-JR-
parksie
Jan 1st, 2001, 04:38 PM
Especially the curves on you-know-who.
Sophtware
Jan 2nd, 2001, 02:35 AM
I did notice it is SCIENCE FICTION.
Yeah the curves of you know who are great..especially her "breasts" ;)
and she has a kid too... and she still has a great body :)
HarryW
Jan 2nd, 2001, 11:02 AM
They could replace Janeway with a log and still retain the same amount of acting talent.
parksie
Jan 2nd, 2001, 12:11 PM
Definitely keep Doc, though.
Jareware
Jan 2nd, 2001, 06:03 PM
You perverts :)
I think Doc's my favorite character too. I know, seven also has a great attitude toward life (just about everything is irrelevant). I don't think Janeway sucks, she just usually gets the most stupid-sounding repliques and overall has a pretty hard role to cover.
Voyager is slightly different from the other Star Treks. It certainly has seen pretty stupid episodes, just don't let them annoy you too much.
Sophtware
Jan 2nd, 2001, 08:30 PM
I like the episodes that actually have a SCIENCE FICTION meaning to them.... not a stupid problem that seven of nine is having adujsting to being human grrrr
Jareware
Jan 3rd, 2001, 11:33 PM
Last thing I was expecting to hear from you... so you actually are watching the series for the story and the like, not just for Jeri Ryans curves :)... I certainly am. Just kidding. I am so funny I could puke... :D
No, those (sevens struggle for being human) episodes (and the like) are usually OK, I just don't like those that are plain stupid, like Tuvok and Neelix beam up from a planet and because of some weird flower thingy their "matter streams" or something mix and come up as one fully functional being that is BOTH Neelix and Tuvok. And their alien physiologies mix perfectly. That's corny. But I don't care as long as those episodes keep in the small number they are in now. And the final season that's running now is almost free of that kinda stories.
-JR-
parksie
Jan 4th, 2001, 12:20 PM
I still think Year of Hell and The Killing Game are the best Voyager episodes, though.
Jareware
Jan 4th, 2001, 05:12 PM
Year of Hell was, yes, can you rerfresh my memory about Killing Game? Scorpion (or both of them actually) were also in the top 5 best episodes ever. To mention a fun one, Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy was ok too.
"Computer - Activate Emergency Command Hologram"
-JR-
Sophtware
Jan 4th, 2001, 07:56 PM
Yeah i am with you on that last bit about neelix and tuvok, jareware....
To be honest out of the three newest series.. the one i enjoyed the most was ST the next generation. then comes DS9..then comes errr ST voyager..
I cant remember the name of the episode on ST the next generation.... but it was the episode where the whole crew was infected with a type of gene (?i think) that *de-evolved* them back to there original species (i guess would be the right word) like warf was changed into some sort of monster that was roaming the enterprise for food and something too kill..and everyone was de-evolved into something..it was cool. :)
Jareware
Jan 4th, 2001, 08:43 PM
I don't know, I kinda was bitten by the Star Trek bug just last summer so my knowledge about any other series is limited to a couple of episodes from here and there. Yep, NextGen is pretty much the best one of the "new" series, but it's more like the "original" Star Trek to me since it was running when I was about 5 or so (not quite sure). Have seen a few episodes, like it very much. I have seen about ½ of a DS9 episode, so I won't start arguing with you about which one is better Vgr or DS9 :).
Live long and prosper.
-JR-
parksie
Jan 5th, 2001, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Sophtware
Yeah i am with you on that last bit about neelix and tuvok, jareware....
To be honest out of the three newest series.. the one i enjoyed the most was ST the next generation. then comes DS9..then comes errr ST voyager..
I cant remember the name of the episode on ST the next generation.... but it was the episode where the whole crew was infected with a type of gene (?i think) that *de-evolved* them back to there original species (i guess would be the right word) like warf was changed into some sort of monster that was roaming the enterprise for food and something too kill..and everyone was de-evolved into something..it was cool. :)
Ah - the one where Deanna devolved into a fish-thing?
Sophtware
Jan 5th, 2001, 01:57 PM
Yeah the fish thing... lol!
Jareware
Jan 5th, 2001, 05:52 PM
Another corny episode that comes to mind is the one (was it "concerning flight" or something) where they tried a transwarp flight and Tom started mutating into some weird thing. Til that point was OK, but when he hijacked Janeway and "transwarped" to a planet somewhere and there they both continued to mutate until they were these fish-lizard-idunno things and then they had children (or smaller fish-lizard-idunno things anyway) and then they were taken back by the crew and Doc reversed the whole thing. That was a bit cheesy...
Who's Deanna anyway?
-JR-
barrk
Jan 5th, 2001, 05:54 PM
Deanna is counselor Troi, the BetaZed....
Jareware
Jan 5th, 2001, 06:35 PM
Oh yes, Troi...
-JR-
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