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Dec 20th, 2000, 10:20 AM
Who was the European to reach North America?

paulw
Dec 20th, 2000, 10:23 AM
First European perhaps?

St. Brendan, Erik the Red, Monty Python?

Dec 20th, 2000, 10:26 AM
C'mon, Paul. I thought the question was a throw-away.

paulw
Dec 20th, 2000, 10:30 AM
Give me a date range (and no I do not mean AD1 - AD1999)

P.

tumblingdown
Dec 20th, 2000, 10:31 AM
America was discovered in 1964 by the four explorers John, Paul, George and Ringo.



td.

Dec 20th, 2000, 10:33 AM
Yeah, right.

Given a time frame the person/group I'm thinking of becomes
completely identifiable. I put these things up so I can
learn something too. I didn't realize that Brendan's
voyage was AD487. Of course, I don't think I would accept
that much of the evidence, either...

Dec 20th, 2000, 10:40 AM
Let's rephrase the question:


Who was the first European to SETTLE in North America?

tumblingdown
Dec 20th, 2000, 10:41 AM
Mick Jagger.


td.

barrk
Dec 20th, 2000, 10:44 AM
DerFarm....do you have something against onanism? I thought it was one of men's favorite past times??

tumblingdown
Dec 20th, 2000, 10:45 AM
yeah, i often like to get on one ;-)



td.

Dec 20th, 2000, 10:46 AM
Action without change
The ultimate narcissism

Dec 20th, 2000, 10:47 AM
TD, you're thinking of Onager. And you can't get on them,
because no one has yet domesticated them.

paulw
Dec 20th, 2000, 10:48 AM
Well maybe Brendan is a bit dodgy but the Vikings almost certainly visited N America (Vinland) in the ninth/tenth Century.

Cheers,

P.

Ianpbaker
Dec 20th, 2000, 10:59 AM
Chris columbus in October 1492, is usually asociated with the first person to find america, but I think I remember reading somewhere that it being disputed and that some-else beat him to it. can't remember who though

Ianpbaker
Dec 20th, 2000, 11:05 AM
Paul and derfarm

I found an interesting read on the viking discovery, check out

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01416a.htm

Dec 20th, 2000, 11:10 AM
Well, it appears that I was wrong in my first
supposition...by about 170 years.

I was thinking of Prince Madoc and the Welsh. They
supposedly landed in Mobile Bay around 1170

http://welshdragon.net/myths/madoc_usa.htm

however, it seems that Leif the Lucky and some of his not-
so-lucky compatriots made it to Newfoundland (or
thereabouts) around 1000.

http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/north/nor-i/thule/thu-020e.htm

Personally, having been to both Newfoundland and Mobile in
the winter, I think Madoc got the better of it.

paulw
Dec 20th, 2000, 06:27 PM
Well you live and learn. I thought it was Eric the Red and I thought he was a bit earlier than 985 but I had only vaguely heard of Madoc and I certainly would not have thought of him.

Cheers all,

P.

CyberSurfer
Dec 21st, 2000, 03:43 AM
I remember it being Eric the Red as well...Mind you, I dropped History last year, so I'll just shut up now!