Calling all ROM & Emu lovers

[tweak]

Anyone interrested in making a "Naptser" type Client/server for ROMs ??

[Cander]

There was one, but i think it is gone know becuase he got sued (from what I heared)! I wouldnt dare with the way these companies are starting to crack down on ROM distribution. What I dont understand is why people who make file swapping programs always advertise it for piracy uses. It always gets them in trouble. Just make a file sharing program and do not mention anything about MP3, ROMS, or whatever else!

[parksie]

Yeah, but with most ROMs the companies don't make any money from them anyway - so if they're moving around the net for free how can it be a problem. Although it's not good if people sell them.

[Cander]

Thats not the point! Whether the company still makes money off them or not is moot! Find me a law that says that they cant sue you for distributing roms that they dont make money on anymore!

But that was not the point of my message. The point was, was dont put yourself in the position to get in trouble.

[parksie]

There is no law. The companies are quite entitled to sue you. However, they don't, never have done, and never will. Both Sega and Nintendo have unofficially stated that they don't care (as it were).

But I get your meaning though.

[Cander]

While Sega is kinda slack on it, I know Nintendo cares big time. In fact they believe emulators themself are illegal(what a crock of bull!!). At any rate, I hope they give in one day. If these companies where smart, they'd offer distribution rights or CD's of large colelctions of there games for a small fee. I gladly pay 30 bucks for a cd of 100 or so SNES games to make it legal! Not that I am admitting anything (wink, wink ^_-)

[BitBlt]

I see your point, but c'mon these days you can get sued just for looking at someone.
And that CD idea isn't such a bad one. Maybe we should send them an Email or something.Then we wouldn't have to spend all day downloading 60mb NeoGeo's :)
I don't believe in useing emulators for current console like N64, but as for bleem! I don't see what sony's problem is, I'm a PC user so I'm not going to fork out R1500 for bad graphics, besides I don't even know if i still have a TV :)

[macai]

Originally posted by BitBlt
I see your point, but c'mon these days you can get sued just for looking at someone.
And that CD idea isn't such a bad one. Maybe we should send them an Email or something.Then we wouldn't have to spend all day downloading 60mb NeoGeo's :)
I don't believe in useing emulators for current console like N64, but as for bleem! I don't see what sony's problem is, I'm a PC user so I'm not going to fork out R1500 for bad graphics, besides I don't even know if i still have a TV :) Exactly! Thats like saying any and all programs written for
Windows are automatically the property of Microsoft!

[JoeCool]

1. I haven't heard of Nintendo sueing yet, but I know there have been cease-and-desist orders issued in Canada (and if they're here, chances are it's happened in the US too).

2. It's still their intellectual property, that's a very broad copyright definition. In some cases, it's easier to get out of, but when you're blatently pirating it, have fun in court, hehe.

3. More than enough games are constantly being rehashed. Being permissive with ROMs is totally screwing their future authority on their own property. Developers don't know what they might want to use next and thusly don't want to lose something that might make them $$$ in the future.

-Joe
P.S. This letter isn't condescending on roms, just the stupid idea of making a P2P program for sharing them. You can already download roms off Kazaa for anything from NES to Gameboy Advance to N64. It's a lot more legally protective for you and frankly, a hell of a lot easier :D

[gorounreal]

Have the actual people who make the emulators been sued yet because what is the difference between you making a program that distributes roms and a program that allows you to play them.

[Cander]

because en emu is not illegal and protected by some laws covering reverse engineering for educational purposes, distributing copyrighted material is illegal

[agent]

Originally posted by BitBlt
I see your point, but c'mon these days you can get sued just for looking at someone.

Only if you can provide some sort of documentation that the act of looking at you cost you money or should require some sort of compensation (i.e. it freaked you out so bad that you can't hold a steady job). You’ll also need to prove that the defendant actually looked at you...

(I watch the Practice too much on tv)

[agent]

Originally posted by macai
Exactly! Thats like saying any and all programs written for
Windows are automatically the property of Microsoft!

Actually, while Sega and Nintendo do produce games, most of the games from the older systems were acutually produced by third-party companies, such as Kanomi, Accolade, and SquareSoft. Sony is not going to sue you if you copy and sell Final Fantasy 7, but SquareSoft is probably not going to be too happy about it...

It's the same with x86 software: if you copy windows, Microsoft will have problems with you; if you copy Norton SystemWorks, Symantec will have problems with you.


BTW, I must admire the bravery of Bill Gates in naming his company Microsoft... Takes a lot of guts to admit you have a problem, but to name a company after it... wow...