Teen-Agers

I am a teenager, and there are lots of not very smart, and not very considerate people out there who fall into the same catagory("teenager").

but I hate being stereotyped into this bullshit catagory because I am 14, and not <12 or >20..

people think of "us" as irrisponsible, inconsiderate, mean, and liking this music called "rap" and "satanic rock", and always being thought of as deeply depressed and suicidal...
and last of all, mad... at the world..

I know this because of many people I have talked to "in person"

it pisses me off SO MUCH...
I am fairly responsible, I consider other peoples feelings, and well, I am mean sometimes... but only when I am joking around... and I absolutely HATE rap and satanic rock, I like country, and "normal" rock, I also like alternative, like joan osborne, mellisa etherage, and jewel, I also like Hooty & The Blowfish(not sure what catagory that falls under), and sure, sometimes I get depressed, but it's not for the reasons people think(the reasons most people think is "nothing", no reason at all), it's because of... stuff... for example, there is this girl I like, but I never see her and can't ask her out.... Ok, I don't need to start talking about that, but by all means that is not nothing, and as for the "suicidal" thing, I realize life is one of the most precious things you have, and I don't want to end it because I feel bad... it wouldn't matter what emotional pain I was in, what physical shape i was in, I would still want to live, although I am a religious person and do beleive in reincarnation to a point, but I am not 100% sure that reincarnation can really happen, or has happened, so I treasure every precious moment that I have in life, I would never ever kill myself or another person because i realize the value of life.. and a lot of people don't...

what also pisses me off is the way teenagers are pissed at the world, well, who the hell cares?

just because you're too fat, or too skinny, or black or white, that is no reason to be mad at anybody, thats the way it is, if you're too fat or too skinny you may be able to help that, but don't be pissed at everybody for it....

and what REALLY REALLY pisses me off is the kids who would prefer to be a different race, for example, an American("white") wanting to be African American("black")


although you may find the other race more attractive, or better, you know it can't be done unless you pull a michael jackson and get your skin bleached/dyed but that doesn't work all that well, you can still tell MJ is not a "natural white person"

I wish people would just accept who they are... I have and I feel much better about myself than I did when I didn't accept myself...

I realize I am not the best looking person in the world, I realize I am pretty overwieght, and i realize I am not the smartest person, but I accept that... I accept that I am not perfect and never will be. and i accept the fact that I am an Irish and German "white person", and I don't want to be any other race or color because this is who I am.

and i like to dress how i like, not how other people dress,
everyday I wear a pair of black jeans, one of many long sleeved shirts(I have a few colors, dark green, black, megenta, etc.), and a sweater-vest over my shirt..
I don't try to dress "cool" or try to fit in... I don't buy a necklace, or a ring, or a shirt because somebody else has it.... I wan't to be unique, I don't want to be like everybody else..


I wish other people would accept who they were and wouldn't try to fit in.....

it pisses me off..



Dennis

[Edited by denniswrenn on 11-21-2000 at 08:06 PM]

[HarryW]

Lol, that last bit kinda ruined the mood :)

(the bit where Dennis said he had his kecks up his ass crack and he had to go sort it out :D)

[Edited by HarryW on 11-21-2000 at 10:14 PM]

[tumblingdown]

Angry Young Man ;-)


td.

what last bit?

An angst ridden teenager.

Never mind Dennis just put your Boyz 2 Men cd on and you will feel better.

*Dennis slowly pulls a 45 out of his desk draw, and blows yet another hole in the map of Australia*

[tumblingdown]

If he ever meets you, i bet he won't share his packed lunch with ya.


td.

tumblingdown

.....lol.....and probably none of his pokemon cards, or Action Man toys.

[tumblingdown]

be carefull, he'll have a tantrum!

(only messing Dennis ;-)


td.

Dennis never has tantrums......oh l forgot he is a teenager...ok point taken.

[tumblingdown]

he's not a teenager, he's a young adult


td.

oh <snip> all of you, this post was serious.... but now i see how you guys feel when i ruin your posts....

oh well...


*Dennis pulls out .45 and blows a hole in england and australia*


and for the packed lunch comment... Yes I do carry my lunch in a paper bag, I once got sick from the food at school and do not wish for that to happen again..
I <snip> HATE POKEMON, THEY SHOULD DIE!!!!


I don't know what the hell action man is...


*Dennis puts on Bad Habits by offspring and decides to take a road trip to australia, but he doesn't leave before putting a .45 on his belt*

now if only I can find an amphibious car... and bullets powerful enough to destroy the evil thing "Jethro"

:rolleyes:

[Dennis - the censor is there for a reason... try and get around it again and you will be banned. Period. - James]

[Edited by James on 11-23-2000 at 01:16 PM]

[tumblingdown]

td.

[paulw]

Dennis,

We know you're pissed off, and we understand (or at least, we can lie about it). But it will get better - when you're twenty!

Cheers,

P.

what will get better?

[marex]

Dennis,

You should be happy.
The other guys are much older, I even think I'm the oldest.
So we are a little bit jealous and many of us wishes
to be back an teenager.

Oh Happy Days:)

Cheers Ray

I am happy,
it just pisses me off when people are always talking about suicide, and hating life..... life is great, and i never want to die, but i know I am going to, so I like to enjoy every moment...

[Sophtware]

Look dude.. this may sound retarded and dumb.. but

Stop thinking so much!

The more you think about this crap thats bothering you...the more you are going to become a crouch (or crinch) and an A-HOLE.

I went through the same thing... typical stereotypes, YAPO ( young and pissed off ), and one thing i learned is that you cant do nothing about it, just roll with the punches.

[JPRoy392]

dennis-
I swear to God that the honest convictions that you described were mine about ten years ago. I think that most of the older programmers (>18) respect you guys here. I know that I do.
My youngest brother is 17 years old. We are completely different. When I was his age, t-shirts and jeans were the extent of my wardrobe. I enjoyed going to rock concerts (AC/DC, Rolling Stones, Van Halen, etc.) and hanging with my friends. His lifestyle is completly opposite. He listens to rap, his car is loud and too low to the ground. He cannot even pull into some parking lots because he hit speed bumps!! I still respect him though and I realize that eventually he will like better music.
People respect other people for what is between their ears and not their age. For the young programmers on this website that know multiple languages, they will have little problems finding jobs because there will always be a need for programers and new software to be written (although it may not always be VB).
If people don't respect you because you are young, ***** THEM!

Sophtware:

Stop thinking so much?

why, so I can be braindead like these other morons.. thinking only about sex, drugs, and "cool" cars....
and not worrying about anything else,

I wish I could stop thinking about this subject, but I can't... everywhere I look, I think about it...

for example, my brother fits the common teenager stereotype,
he likes rap, if person or two has a piece of jewelry, he gets that... he wants a low rider car, he slurrs his speech with "Yo!"(Hey You!), "sup?"(Whats Up?) and "mo fo"() and many other things..
and he wears those God awful nylon pants that make a zipping noise when you walk.

and when I go to school, there are so many people like this... sometimes you can't even tell them apart..
Jim:

I have done most of my ranting, I don't have much else to say, well, except a large line of cusswords that would be totally innapropriate for this forum... but thanks,


Dennis

[Dennis - the censor is there for a reason... try and get around it again and you will be banned. Period. - James]

[Edited by James on 11-23-2000 at 01:17 PM]

[barrk]

Relax. Develop a sense of humor about the whole thing. Those kids you describe will have a hard time in life because there is absolutely nothing unique about them. You, on the other hand, will already have a strongly developed sense of who you are while they are still trying to figure it out. You can't stop them from acting and being who they are anymore than we can stop you from being a smart ass. Don't get so wrapped around the axle over something you have no control over. Think of all the good things you have....
1) a screaming system complete with DSL
2) everyone in VB-World to harrass
3) parents that care enough to let you persue your interests in programming
4) everyone in VB-World to harrass you.

Stop with the self-pity will ya?

[HarryW]

Dennis, if you want anything more to ***** and moan about, just tell me and I'll kick you in the nuts or something. I know, I'm too kind.

self-pity?

I pity the fool(Ahhhhh the A-Team) who acts like the common teenager...


:rolleyes:


Thanks, the last 3 posts have been the most helpful... the others were just made to harass me... ;) :rolleyes:

Well Harry, I'll be a kind fella too... *Dennis puts on steel-toed boots and kicks Harry in the nuts, harry falls to floor, and has a seisure*

[marnitzg]

Marnitz kicks Dennis in the nuts. However, nothing happens as his nuts haven't fully developed yet :rolleyes:

[SteveCRM]

Im 14, I don't really care if people say we are irrisponsible and stuff like that, its when they start limiting what we can and cannot do is where I draw the line. Screw everyone else.

[barrk]

...do yourselves a favor and go to Napster and check out Teenage Dirtbag by Wheatus.

[Edited by barrk on 11-22-2000 at 03:56 PM]

[Sophtware]

All i am saying is to not worry about those people that you dont like..so what if they like rap or nylon clothes or whatever.. it isnt none of your concern..so dont worry about it.

Its a natural part of any teenagers life to rebel against their parents, government, whatever. This is natural and perfectly acceptable to most older people. Although we will ***** about it quite a bit.

Now clearly you have developed your own outlook which doesn't conform to the current expected behaviour of your generation. All power to you, following the current fashions, way of speech etc, turns you into a sheep. Besides as an American with a sense of humour you are probably in only 2.5% group of your country people.

Don't worry us older guys also ***** about the sheep like behaviour of our peers. You know the 9 to 5 with TV to follow mindset. And they give these dregs the vote.


Besides RAP ain't bad, its only missing a C at the start of it.

[barrk]

Do you really think it's that high!?!?

Besides RAP ain't bad, its only missing a C at the start of it.



hehehehehe

[barrk]

Did you check out the song yet Dennis? What do you think?

[tumblingdown]

You gone soft or what?


td.

*listening now*

Hmmmm...

I don't like the scratching records in the background

and how has dirtbag been thought of as bad?
I have one right here.... it keeps the dirt off the floor, and now after I get out of the shower I don't get mud everyplace.. :D

[barrk]

This kid thinks everyone thinks he's dirtbag and that no one (especially this girl he likes) likes him. Then he finds out the girl feels just the same way and ends up taking him to an Iron Maiden concert.

The moral of the story is....you're probably not the only one who feels the way you do.

Ok, so thats the moral, I thought the moral was all teenagers think they are dirtbags.... but that couldn't be the case, because I have been told my some people that I have a superiority complex... *Dennis evilly looks at Harry*

:rolleyes:

[barrk]

Harry is just trying to cut you down to size. Admit it, you need it from time to time. We all do. You just need it more often than others.

I wasn't getting mad at harry,
I knew it a long time before anybody told me....


I wish I could make it go away, and I wish that I could be proved wrong, like if somebody I knew in person actually acted smart... but nobody proves me wrong... they actually help me beleive I am right by acting even dumber than before..

:mad:

[barrk]

Does that include Harry, td, Jethro, DerFarm...me?

Nope, doesn't include Harry, TD, or DerFarm....

;)

j/k

it doesn't include anybody from this forum.... just the people I was talking about in my original post...

[barrk]

You undisciplined youth, you! You might want to try thinking before you post....just a suggestion.

thinking before I post???
not a chance.. thats why I was *Dennis looks down because he is ashamed of himself* unofficially banned from usenet...

:rolleyes:

[barrk]

You didn't tick anybody off did you Dennis? I'm shocked!

yeah, very much so... I can't say what I said/did though, I promised myself I wouldn't tell anybody who didn't already know....

I didn't really get banned..... it's just the people don't want me there anymore....

[barrk]

did you learn anything from this experience??????? Like maybe...think before you post??????? Doesn't sound like it!

I learned absolutely nothing... :rolleyes:

[barrk]

I have had enough for the week. I'm going to go home...then to the pub to meet a friend of mine....then start packing for our trip to Fallbrook. I hope you have a great holiday. I'll talk to you when I get back on Monday.

Take care and behave yourself!!!!

cya....

[Rudy]

I know, maybe Im late for this thread but anywayz, I would be one of the worst case in your first msg, I mean I listen to rap and satanic rock (is that how you said it??) anywayz i know it's quite to see someone who like both but still i do enjoy both style so..... anywayz yes I am a typical teenager i guess, i go out late everynight, don't really care about school (i still manage to pass everything) i party every friday and i like to hang with my friends, i got a cool car (yeah it's quite low and it got an awesome sound system that i bought instead of a PS2), oh well i enjoy my life how i live it, and if u enjoy your well that's good for you but i couldn't live the way you are and im sure you couldn't live the way i am but it's all good that's why we're all different (btw i do VB in my spare time which is usualy small but i still manage to do big project and when i work on something i work on it SERIOUSLY even though most ppl think im a slacker)

btw im 16 and im sure you'll change by the time you'll grow up, you'll be surpirsed, i never thought i would change that much from 14 to 16 but yeah u do

[HarryW]

Just think Dennis, one day you could be just like Rudy. Now there's something to aspire to :rolleyes:

[Emo]

I have to agree with Rudy! I cannot believe how much I changed since I was 14! I don't wear the same things anymore, I like cars with a serious sound system, chrome wheels, violet lights on the bottom of the car and so on... The only thing I can remember that I haven't changed, is still listening to Rap and Hip Hop! Actually, I didn’t like it at all until I moved in this country (When I was 12). But my point here is that you will see for yourself how much you will change even thought right now you are saying "What are you talking about? I won't change! I'll still think and believe the same things"!

I just have to tell you one thing: Don't believe me if you want, just wait... :D


-Emo

Best thing when I was a young teenager was that I had (childish) imagination with the programs I planned. Now doing something different needs a lot of thinking, and I basically don't anymore feel so good in inventing something little. Everything has became tools, nothing is fun.

Seventeen now, and too serious. I haven't had the "me against the world" thing. Probably I won't have it. I don't want to have it.

Strangest thing, maybe because I didn't have the "me against the world" is that I think most in my age seem to be VERY stupid. They could be more wise but somewhy they still tell jokes about **** and things, and those should have been in use when they were like 7. What's wrong with most of my age?

Little off the topic but...

[PRIVATE1]

Originally posted by Rudy
I know, maybe Im late for this thread but anywayz, I would be one of the worst case in your first msg, I mean I listen to rap and satanic rock (is that how you said it??) anywayz i know it's quite to see someone who like both but still i do enjoy both style so..... anywayz yes I am a typical teenager i guess, i go out late everynight, don't really care about school (i still manage to pass everything) i party every friday and i like to hang with my friends, i got a cool car (yeah it's quite low and it got an awesome sound system that i bought instead of a PS2), oh well i enjoy my life how i live it, and if u enjoy your well that's good for you but i couldn't live the way you are and im sure you couldn't live the way i am but it's all good that's why we're all different (btw i do VB in my spare time which is usualy small but i still manage to do big project and when i work on something i work on it SERIOUSLY even though most ppl think im a slacker)

btw im 16 and im sure you'll change by the time you'll grow up, you'll be surpirsed, i never thought i would change that much from 14 to 16 but yeah u do

I have to laugh . I'm thrirty . My truck scrapes the ground . I party Friday till Sunday night . I like school .
I listen "Korn" and "Rob Zombie" remixed into Trance . I tape GlowSticks to my Ceiling Fan . I go to work all week but the weekend is MINE .
PS Never drive accross country in a lowered S10 with 3 people . It's a long drive .

[]P

I am pretty sure I won't change..... first of all, I have been like this my whole life, I haven't changed very much.. I have always liked the same music, and i never dressed like an idiot...

and there is no garuntee I am going to change, because most people have gone through "the change" like 2 years ago...

I am not saying I am better than other people(although that is what I am thinking.. :rolleyes: just kidding) but I seriously don't think I will change, and I really don't want to... I think rap is the WORST music of all times... and my brother has always liked rap...


well, I might change, but I mainly posted this because I don't want to and maybe if I keep saying I wont... I wont....
:mad:

[HarryW]

Rudy, just out of interest, have you ever done Pascal or C? Just because of your sig that's all.

[Rudy]

Dennis: You will change almost for sure, I know it's hard to believe that in 2 years you'll change that much but it's true, i can't say if you change a lot after that cause im still there but im pretty sure i'll still change, college next year and everything i just can't wait party all day lol and im pretty sure that girls will help yah move on ^_*

Harry: Nop sorry i don't know C or Pascal, I tried to learn C++ but after a while I followed my friend advice and started with an easier one, i've learn VB from nothing and now i can do about anything with it (well not really but i learn easily), right now im working on a big project that use a lot of Internet protocol in it (Advanced INET), i often check other program and try to see how they work and try to write my own code to do the same thing, after my project is done i plan reading a big book about VB that i got a while ago as a gift, just to learn a few new things and after that i'll try to learn C++ and next year im going to colege in computer science.

(edit)
Emo: That might be because you get your liscence at 16 and some people get their car in their late 15 or they at least begin to look for one and sometimes they'll hang with ppl that already have a car and that will usualy get everyone interested in cars, i mean when i was 12-14 i thought i would get a cheap car just so i could go where i want, but now i want the best (but there's always a little problem there $$) and on boxing day im going to wait in line to my local store and im going to go buy a SWEET sound system ^_*



[Edited by Rudy on 11-23-2000 at 01:17 PM]

[HarryW]

Hehe, well I guessed it wasn't going to be an English degree :rolleyes: (just kidding, no offense meant)

I just wondered because you have the indirection operators for C and Pascal on either side of your name in your sig, but I see you use it as some kind of smiley thing.

In C you would write *variable and in Pascal you would write variable^ , so it's sort of a combo. *Shrugs* I guess I'll just go back to my nerdy life now *Chuckle*

[James]

Dennis,

The censor is there for a reason... try and get around it again and you will be banned. Period.

- James

[Rudy]

Heheh ok well the little * and ^ after my nick is because Rudy is just too common

And as for the english thing well that's just cause it's not my first language, but i don't speak my first language anymore so i don't know, i moved in BC (canada) 3 yrs ago and all i could say was "hi" lol but now things are differents ^_*

[HarryW]

PRIVATE1 - I listened to the 'Slayer remix' (I really doubt it's the original Slayer) of Freak on a Leash and it was... well.. just freaky :rolleyes: What have you heard that sounds good when it's turned into trance? I like hard rock, heavy rock, metal, and that kind of thing, but I also like trance as a kind of second genre (one you can dance to... with girls at least... and not risk headbutting them). I can't really imagine the two going together though. Closest I've heard to a cross between metal and trance (that I liked) is Static-X, and that's only some of it. Kind of metal with a dancey twist. Actually I really like it, I know a lot of people don't rate Static-X. Don't know if you know "I'm with Stupid", man I'd love to send that to my ex ;)

Anyway enough whittering, I'll leave it there.

[parksie]

James - are you the police now?

Dennis - as long as he doesn't find that *ahem* other thread...;)

[James]

parksie,

I'm not the police, but if a user deliberately attempts to get around the censor, I need to take that seriously.

All the best,

James

[Rudy]

Parsie......i feel like you have something to tell me.... ^_*

[parksie]

James - fair enough. You may want to view a few of our methods for getting round it (give you something worthwhile to do ;))

Rudy - Not really, Mr Indirection :)

Sorry James, I should have known better.. I wasn't thinking.... *Dennis goes and edits other posts with that word in it*

hey wait, get mad at parksie too, he's the one who told me how!

[parksie]

Oh thank you very much, ****er. (there James, didn't try and get round it!)

**** you you ****ing ****er!!!


;)

Dennis at sixteen will join greenpeace and listen to mood music. His favourite pass time will be dolphin spotting. He will lead his class mates in a protest against the machine and smash his PC. He will join the anti-gun lobby. He will also be a founding member of an all white rap group.

Sorry fell into another dimension there.:p

Actually change is the only constant in life, embrace it, just think new programs/hardware...lots of money:)

[Benjamin]

**** you jethro...

rap sucks... I am never going to like that music.... in 2 years I'll come back and tell you...

As stated before my belief is that rap is only missing the c at the start of it.:):):):):):):)

Go and give your mum/mom a big hug, you will both feel better for it. Just a suggestion, mums/moms like that sort of thing.....

[KENNNY]

hehe, dennis, im assuming u live in america, well its the same in england: some ppl trying to be *bad* - the ppl who *actually* like rap etc are fine - its just the ppl who listen to rap/heavy rock/etc to be <cool>.

it doesnt piss me off that much, but its just the way the world is ?) <puzzled face in the absence of a pic>

<edit - damn this: ?) doesnt do a puzzled face - what does??>

[Benjamin]

a puzzled face :confused:

[KENNNY]

yeah but that doesnt help me :)

put a space between the chars so i can see :P

[parksie]

: confused : = :confused:

[oetje]

Parksie, you can use the **** trick to say how to show :confused:.:rolleyes:

:confused: = :confused:

[parksie]

Oops...forgot about that - thanks Oetje.