need real tutorials...

[benmartin101]

how about someone showing how to get an .exe using assembly. You know, instead of just saying use Nasm, Tasm, etc., how about also mentioning that you need other files to actually make it run. People say use TASM, and they forget to mention that you also need a linker.

[benmartin101]

a86 RULES!!!!

[Raedwulf]

I guess a86 is not bad....but it is not free - thats why we use the free ones.
TASM - its no longer updated - I don't recommend it.
But i do suggest LZASM which uses TASM syntax if you're looking for that.

As for linkers - the masm32 package includes a linker. (most popular - but less of a favourite)
Fasm doesn't need a linker. (my favourite)
Nasm needs a linker - i think the one they include in the package is ALink or something but both NASM and the linker are near enough dead
RosASM - a nice featured assembler but rather weird syntax a macros.
a86 - you have to pay for it....why buy one when you can get so many for free???
YASM - a new assembler - which is GPLed ... it is pretty good from looking at the feature list but i've not used it.
POAsm - New assembler still in beta stage- but if you check the main Pelles C website - the linker is in the main Pelles C package.

....Fasm, Masm and RosASM are complete packages - so what is the problem of finding a linker?

We are here to help... but we can't answer questions that aren't asked - and try browsing and reading things about assembly programming... its not that difficult to get around. I believe i've pointed out this great masm32 starters' tutorial:

http://www.madwizard.org/view.php?pa...rials.contents

I poured hours over it - and in the end i did get it. Patience is a virtue.

Cheers.
Ralph

[benmartin101]

I appreciate your response. Sorry if I sounded impatient, but not being able to make a simple "hello world" to work got me frustrated. I found a86 and it's simple enough to teach me the basics.

[Raedwulf]

I guess a86 can't be bad....being the only commercial assembler i know, apart from perhaps MASM...I think you can order it but most people just use the free version or use the newer version that come with the Visual C package. However, being commercial a86 will have good support and documentation. That I guess is a bonus. I guess you must have bought it already - so i won;t discourage you.

Cheers!

Ralph

[yeohhs]

how about someone showing how to get an .exe using assembly.

In RosAsm , a "Hello, World!" program looks like this:

Main:
    push {"Hello, World!",0}
    call 'MSVCRT.printf'

    push 0
    call 'KERNEL32.ExitProcess'

RosAsm compiles this into a console program.

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[Al42]

RosAsm compiles this into a console program.

How large? One of the reasons to use assembly is to eliminate library bloat. As a pure assembly program, "Hello, World" should run around 25 bytes.