Microsoft Certified VB Exams(VB5 70-165)

[kishore]

Iam trying to prepare for
Exam : (VB5 70-165)
Do anybody have suggestions on how to prepare well?

Do anybody have Questionaire?
I would like to buy on a price or free.
Are there any website which helps us prepare for this Exam(70-165).

I know there are lot of experienced guys at this messageboard. I always appreciate your time and kindness.

Thanking you,
krishna

[Gimpster]

If you have at least a few weeks until the exam, then I would suggest getting a book...

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Ryan

[kishore]

Glimpster,
Iam thinking of writing next week, if possible. But go ahead give me your book name.

Thanks,

[venkatraman_r]

Hi,

You can go for the MCSD Preparation Guide for Visual Basic by Techmedia Publications. That book is real worth to have.

Good Luck.

Venkat :)

[James]

Hi there,

Karl Moore has written a review of a low cost exam training application: http://www.vb-world.net/articles/transcender/

Good Luck :)

James


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James Limm
Senior Editor, VB-World.net

[tpatten]

My suggestion - don't waste your time on the exam. Why give MS that type of control over the employment market where potential employers expect you to have taken MS certification courses? I know plenty of excellent VB programmers who have never gone through MS certification.

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[gravyboy]

tpatton & mark sreeves,

I agree in principle, but as a consultant took the time to point out to me no quals no credibility. It is unfortunate that many prospective employers look for quals first then ability next. I too know many guys that can code 'qualified' people under the table but unless an employer gives a technical exam/test then quals are always going to win. :(

[Clunietp]

Of course, in today's market, you don't need certification. But with certificatinom, not only do you get to put MCSD after your name, but you can charge more money (isn't that the real goal?) and become a more well-rounded programmer at the same time.

Some of us focus on different areas of VB, but studying for the exam forces us to learn all aspects of VB, not just calling a couple fancy APIs....

You won't know how ignorant you are until you take a practice exam and miss a few questions, and then ask yourself, "How did I end up getting a 66% when I should have aced it??"

Certification means you know your ALL your stuff, not just how to make 2/3rds of a window disappear and float around the screen inverted while playing 3 different MP3 files in the background simultaneously..... :)

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[tpatten]

gravyboy - Just a pet peave of mine...

It is not p.a.t.t.o.n. It is p.a.t.t.e.n. It's funny, I just went through this on another board only minutes ago.


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[kishore]

I agree with cluietp.

I thought i was an ace programmer until i took practice test. Everybody may not be like me. I certainly learned some technics and lot of missed topics. Our job doesn't cover all aspects of Visual basic. Preparing for tests can increase your confidence.

I think we should take it. If you think you are ace, then show it. Nobody is stopping.

Boycotting doesn't make anysense. Blaming doesn't help.

[kishore]

Thanks to all of you.

[jritchie]

kishore,

Am taking the test later this year, for reasons explained above. Have found that Mastering vb is the best for preparation plus any computer bookshop should have examples of the questions asked. Tried one out and yes l was surprised by what l didn't know about vb.

Good luck :)

[Mark Sreeves]

I agree with the last dude!

The more poeple who have these exams, the more the industry will demand them!

Avoid them at all costs!!

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Mark Sreeves
Analyst Programmer

Mark.Sreeves@Softlab.co.uk
A BMW Group Company

[Ruchi]

Try to check out the book called MCSD: Visual Basic 6 Desktop Applications Study Guide by Michael McKelvy. I think it's a good book.

Ruchi


[This message has been edited by Ruchi (edited 01-07-2000).]

[Mark Sreeves]

Of course it's in everyone's interest to be able to quantify one's ability but what I object to is Microsoft's gradual domination of the training market as well as just about everything else they dabble with!

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Mark Sreeves
Analyst Programmer

Mark.Sreeves@Softlab.co.uk
A BMW Group Company

[Gimpster]

Mark, I agree with you there. It certainly is unfortunate that Microsoft is trying to dominate the market in every field. However, from a programmer's point of view, it has it's advantages. For one, you know that everything is compatible, for another, you only have to remember one technical support number, and lastly, you only have to buy one software developement suite in order to be able to do anything you'll ever need to do. With Microsoft Visual Studio, you get a program to accomplish just about any task imaginable, and at the same time you keep companies like Maxtor and Western Digital in business, because you'll need a whole hard drive to install all of the products! But, like I said, I do agree with you, I wish that MS would try to work with other companies to make MS products compatible with their products, instead of MS making their own version and trying to push everyone else out of the way.

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Ryan

[Frans C]

I think the 70-165 exam is going to be obsolete very soon, and if you have to start with it now and would like to use it for MCSD I would recommend to go for the 70-176/175 exams.
I had the 70-176 exam last december (and got the certificate in today :D ) and I would recommend to get the P&D and the error handling part well in your mind.

If you can get a hand on the trancender tests, they are really great. They match the real exam questions very well.

I agree with Clunietp, take a test and surprise yourselve with the things you don't know. The exams force you to learn the stuff you don't use often as well; this will make your programming skills more complete.

Good luck with it.

[kishore]

I don't think Microsoft is making much money on this. There is nothing to dominate in this field(Exams).

It's a Microsoft Product.
Doesn't it make sense if Microsoft Conducts those Certification Exams? Oracle, Cisco, Lotus, Sun ,.......They all conduct exams in there own products. What is there to dominate?
Eg :
Set Domination = Nothing

Of course, microsoft is dominant. Somebody can write an 500 page essay on them with 8 point font.

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