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Nov 9th, 2000, 08:01 PM
We need a Wintel development environment? Have tried Borland's version, but it sucks big time. Got it set up already to run and the first friggin program didn't compile. Check the error and it said we needed to download SDK 1.0 from sun....what a crock!

Nov 10th, 2000, 04:43 PM
Come now...you know the answer to that question.

...Sun

I forget, does M$ want you to pay for Java?

parksie
Nov 10th, 2000, 05:12 PM
The latest I have (1.3) is way faster than it's ever been, and is well nice. Plus it's free for download from Sun.

Although Visual Cafe is probably the best IDE, if you really need one.

Edwin_Drood_1870
Nov 14th, 2000, 02:44 AM
I would use Sun's SDK AND Micro$oft's J++.

J Staniforth
Nov 15th, 2000, 03:26 AM
I think the future of J++ is uncertain - I think MS is going to dump it although there are rumours that Rational are going to take it over.

parksie
Nov 15th, 2000, 12:30 PM
You're right. Why would M$ want something that could possibly create platform-independant (shudder) programs? ;)

Nov 15th, 2000, 03:16 PM
Basically we got a couple of contractors in to write some java code for xml document exchange over multiple platforms. Am now looking for a training version, manuals etc to lay on the guy who is going to maintain this stuff. Will probably pay for some training courses, but would like some in house stuff, which we can chuck on a Win98 stand alone PC.

CyberSurfer
Nov 20th, 2000, 12:51 PM
Me personally, I use the Sun Java SDK 1.3 with notepad. I haaaaaate J++!

Nov 21st, 2000, 07:32 PM
I havn't used the JDK from sun yet, but I found the J++ from Microsoft easy to use. This is because I am familiar with the Visual Environment.

Nov 21st, 2000, 08:09 PM
Had heard they were dropping it from VS7...this may just be a rumour of course.

Mark Sreeves
Nov 22nd, 2000, 03:11 AM
I use J++/Interdev as an editor(code completion comes in handy!- although not all jdk classes are catered for :( ) and compile it on the command line using jdk 1.3

Do any other [free] editors have the code completion features of the j++ editor?