4, 5, 6,7 days...away from Another Pres.

[Sophtware]

Well we Americans are close too having another press.

Either way we lose...if bush wins we lose..if gore wins..then we lose by default.

Gore: I created the internet!!

Bush: Inter..what?

Bush:I think that the ISP's Should be resonsible for what children see online.

.......... that has too be the most ridiculous thing i have heard lately.

So in other words..if a kid d/l's porn or beastiality, it is the fault of the ISP!?!?! Where are the kids parents?


That just about sums up our candidates views on the internet and technology.

<joke>Oh yeah i want them in office.</joke>

At least clinton had a sense of humor.


All gore and bush do is talk trash about how bad the other one is... what is this jerry springer??

Yeah i can picture it... gore and bush are arguing on stage and then all of a sudden, pat buchanan comes out and starts beating up on gore...then ralph nader comes out and starts too beat up on bush. hehehe

For as long as i can remember..the same issuse come up and the same topics appear every presidential election.

"If i am president i will make schooling and higher education a higher priority.. i will make medicare better than ever for all americans...i will do this..i will do that.."

and what happens?? Nothing at all...if anything it gets worse.



I wonder how things are in outer mongolia..hmmmm :)

........to get rid of jackboot Johnny and his merry band.

They have decided that they can in fact police the entire www by legislation.

It's really too bad you guys can't think, spell or
(probably) enunciate. I expected more from you, Sophtware.

Gore did NOT claim to invent the internet. That was a mis-
quote from a HIGH SCHOOL newspaper interview.

Lose by default? The last lynching we had here in Alabama
was about 10 years ago. All is not peaches and cream
everywhere, the save the rich campaign is alive and well,
The Klan is backing Bush, and Bubba is on the rampage about
having the Ten Commandments in the Alabama Supreme Court.

DerFarm

[HarryW]

Just to clear this up, approximately what percentage of Americans are complete nutters?

Obviously, it would depend on what you consider "nutters".
The active membership of the racialist (white) groups is
usually pegged at 150,000-200,000.

The bulk of these are Klan organizations memberships.
Active participation in the Aryan Nations, the Brotherhood,
Identity Christian, Posse Comitatus, FreeMan Militias, and
the others is estimated to be roughly 5,000 - 15,000
each. There is, of course, significant dual memberships.
These people would probably qualify as complete nutters to
most.

More amorphous is the number of supporters who are not
now, and will probably never be, active members. These are
people who will say "I don't agree with what they are
doing, but ...", or give money, or lend a vehicle, or some
other evidence of material support, short of marching.
Usually, the estimates are about 10 times the active
membership. This would peg supporters at 1-2 million.
This fits with estimates from the Southern Poverty Law
Center, B'nai B'rith, SCEF, and some other right-wing
monitoring groups.

There are other racialist organizations whose emphasis is
not white. The followers of Farrakhan's form of the Nation
of Islam is one example. The active membership for these
is very small (1,000-5,000) and make much more noise than
action.



DerFarm

[barrk]

Not all Americans are racists. Unfortunately, the crazy ones are the most vocal and get the most press. Each one of us practice racism in one form or another. I, myself, am very prejudice against fat people. I don't think anyone can say they are completely free from bigotry.

As far as the elections go, any party's representative who tells me he wants to take the government out of our daily lives but tries to legislate what I can do with my own body is just a joke. I'm going with Gore! Much has been said about his exaggerating but I think that the media plays that up because they can't find anything else dirty on him.

[Sophtware]

I had a full page of insults pointed towards "Derfarm" But no...


i am just going too sum it up like this.


DerFarm..shut up.


More than half of what i posted in the beginning of this post was just "Fun" i seriously dont mean everything good god man you need to Relax.

[HarryW]

When I say 'nutters', I don't mean just right-wing extremists, I mean nutters in general. I'm sure you know what I mean. General, all-round nutters.

[barrk]

If the people I work with are any indication...98% of us are nutter and the other 2% just have no sense of humor!

[HarryW]

Hehe, glad to hear it ;) I've worked with some of those 2% before, they just don't get it, it's really frustrating trying to have some kind of friendly conversation, they take everything literally. That's not quite what I meant by nutters either though ;) I'm really talking about people who are nutters in a bad way. I mean, KKK members are nutters, but they're not the kind of people I'd want as workmates ;)

[barrk]

I work on an Air Force Base and have lived on one almost my entire life (and that's a longgg time!). I imagine that it's a pretty good representation of American culture. There is probably 2% (speculation) of the people around here who are badly disguised nutters. Pretty weird that that estimate corresponds to the percentage of people with no sense of humor....hmmmm...maybe I'm on to something!

[Edited by barrk on 10-31-2000 at 03:37 PM]

Well except for our Federal Government who just come out and admitt it, just say sorry John Howard

Now l know there is no racism in Australia, because we hate all outlanders equally. Doesn't matter if your Chinese, French, American, Icelandic...we still hate you equally:):)


Actually except for our government, most people here are pretty tolerant of other races, creds, weights....well except for the red necks who style themselves on yank extremist groups.

[barrk]

If only the rest of the world were as cool as Austrailians....

Oh well, I guess we can't have everything!

[HarryW]

Oh my God what a horrible thought. A world full of Australians.

[barrk]

LOG ON: Makin' a wood stove hotter.
LOG OFF: Don't add no more wood.
MONITOR: Keepin' an eye on the wood stove.
DOWNLOAD: Gettin' the farwood off the truk.
MEGA HERTZ: Win yer not keerful gettin' the farwood.
FLOPPY DISC: Whatcha git frum tryin' ti keery too much farwood.
RAM: That thar thing whut splits the farwood.
HARD DRIVE: Gettin' home in the winter time.
PROMPT: Whut the mail ain't in the winter time.
WINDOWS: Whut to shut when it be cold outside.
SCREEN: Whut to shut when it be blak fly season.
BYTE: Whut dem flys do.
CHIP: Munchies fer watchin TV.
MICRO CHIP: Whut's in the munchie bag.
MODEM: Whatcha did to the hay fields.
DOT MATRIX: Ol' Dan Matrix's wife.
LAP TOP: Whar the kitty sleeps.
KEYBOARD: Whar ya hang the keys.
SOFTWARE: Dem plastic farks an' knifs.
MOUSE: Whut eats the grain in the barn.
MAIN FRAME: Whut holds up the barn ruf.
RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY: When ya cain't 'member whut ya paid fer the rifle when yore wife asks.
MOUSE PAD: That there hippie talk fer the rat hole

We would still have to have poms, thereby having some one to beat at cricket and rugby and league and drinking and 3 day eventing and this one time at music camp....:):):):):)


Actually quite happy that the world holds such diversity. Now if the world was full of kiwis it would be a better place.

Always thought this was the major problem with Star Trek, what a horrible concept.....but then along came the marque to revitalise my interest in the show.

Originally posted by barrk
Each one of us practice racism in one form or another. I, myself, am very prejudice against fat people. I don't think anyone can say they are completely free from bigotry.

I am only responding to this since I am overwieght, but I find that extremely common, but also very stupid,

Not always, but a lot of times, it is not the persons fault he is fat,
there are things like glandular problems,

that is not my case, but that is the problem with many people...

just incase you are wondering, when i was in 6th grade(I am currently in 9th grade) I needed to have surgery on my feet, because they were very flat, I was in a wheelchair for almost a year,
and I could do nothing... I couldn't walk, excersize, etc.

Ok, enough of my story,
I can understand not being fond of fat people,
I myself do not like them very much,
nobody wants to see a bunch of fat jiggling around,
and fat people don't realize that... but I do, which is why I always where something that covers my stomach(jacket, sweater-vest, etc) because I know how gross it is for somebody to take a quick step, or a jump and have a big glob of fat move around....



BTW..... GOOOOOOO BUSH!!!!!!!!!1

Republican all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[barrk]

It was extremely insensitive of me to make that comment about fat people. I was trying to be funny....not realizing I was actually being hurtful. Please accept my apology. I was trying to lighten the mood of DerFarms tone regarding bigotry and in making my point I did a very bad thing. Please, denniswrenn, accept my apology. It was wrong, I was wrong and I am genuinely sorry.

[HarryW]

Dennis, Barrk admitted it was bigot-like to hold such prejudices.

I personally have some prejudices myself, but I'm not going to tell anyone what they are. Those prejudices I hold are down to personal experience and stereotyping. I know they're wrong. Still, though, they are there.

Also, on the subject of US elections: from what I can tell, Bush is a complete tit.



Why do people affiliate themselves with these political parties? Nobody's opinions are 100% the same as any particular political party, I know mine are far from it. I don't trust any of them. They're all going to lie. Whoever gets into power is going to mess things up. It's just a case of damage limitation.

[barrk]

It's very difficult, with the written word, to express yourself. The people I work with and see on a daily basis know me. You do not. I don't laden my writing with smilies or winks or (just kiddings). Maybe I should. I meant no harm. I have been told I have a unique sense of humor which most people enjoy. I will, from now on, realize that people on the forum don't know me and may need some disclaimers to understand me. I feel badly that I hurt a very clever and witty (smart-ass extrordinaire) human being. I was just trying to make a point.

On another note,

Bush is a twit. I'm a putz and the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket and nothing that happens on November 7th (election day) is going to change that. We (the people)need to change things. Not sure how to do this though. Any suggestions?

I wasn't really offended, because I can understand why,
I just don't like stereotypes, although I am prejudice about a lot of things, which I will not mention either,
I hate being prejudice, but I can't help it :(

I could see the humour in your comments. Problem is a lot of people (predominatly American l might add) have not learnt to laugh at themselves.

In oz they call Greek/Italian new australians wogs. This is now viewed as a comic title by the Greek/Italian community, witness the movie "The Wog Boy".

Of course anglo saxons are called skippies...after that flaming kangaroo.

New Zealanders are called kiwis or just sheep molestors.

etc etc etc

No one takes offense at this.

Dennis

Only a fathead would vote for that Bush guy. Is he just derranged or mentally challenged. Actually he could fit right into our government with no problems.

[HarryW]

Well, most Americans may be devoid of the ability to laugh at themselves, but I think we more than make up for it by laughing at them on their behalf :D

[Sophtware]

I used too be overweight... well actually i should have typed OVERweight to really tell how fat i was.

I Know how it is too be called all kinds of names... it sucks and i think no one should be treated that way..BUT!
it happens anyway..and now that i am fit and in shape (except for the smoking and drinking part :) ) i get treated with lots more respect...it's sad how people will treat you by just the way you look.

Anyways.

I read this in a magazine the other day about Geroge W. bush.

"From January 1995 to August 2000, 144 people were exectuted in texas under Gov. Bush - one every two weeks"

Yeah you can tell he grew up in texas.


Also this one hits it right on the bud when it comes too bad luck to till the end.

"In 1998, Texas Inmate David Castillo's last request included 24 tacos, six enchiladas, two whole onions, two burgers, a chocolate shake, a quart of milk and a pack of marlboro's.Instead of the cigarettes, castillo was given a note that read, "Smoking endangers your health"

yeah the govt. is really smart....really.

:)
<joke> Hey jethro..something is giving me the hint that you arent too fond of americans? hehe </joke>:)



Oh well i am out...it's holloween and my neighbor's parents are hadning candy out too the kiddies ..so i am going too go freeload :)

Lates.

Yeap all Aussies would put Americans down with South Africans on our list of joke topics.

The main problem with seppos is all these stupid stories we get out of the states that yanks feel are serious but the rest of the world falls over laughing about. For a country that can put a man on the moon, you guys can sure do some dump things!

I had to interview the American Ambassador to kiwiland for our University newspaper and...true story...she didn't get paid for three months cause her cheques were going to the embassy in Papua New Guinea.....lol.....you guys crack me up.

[Sophtware]

ah well..i am just glad we americans could care less about you "aussies".

[tumblingdown]

err, i'm rather proud of my beer belly. It may not be much, but it's getting there.

oh, and i have to say, as regard US politics and the debate as to relative qualities, competency and issues surrounding, the various combatants, on either side of the ticket. I have no view what so ever.
(other, than of course, Gore being a tit, and Bush being a slimy bastard)



td.

We are only too glad that Americans have a head in the sand attitude to the rest of the world.:)

head in the sand?
we're the ones who saved *dennis points finger* your erm... *dennis points to harry* your ass in WWII....

we have been in every major war of the century...

and we even got involved in that bosnia crap..

Once again left to the Anzacs to pull the iron out of the fire there.

Besides you may have helped during WWII....but....l am pretty sure the pomms were not happy with the bill you guys presented them with at the end of the affair.

And FYI, we helped you guys out during the Vietnam War...now where's my Account Book, we should send you guys a bill for that one.

you marsupials didn't do **** for us in vietnam.....

*dennis goes to look in history book*

anyway, even if you did, you had such a small part(which is why, if its true, nobody knows about it), it wouldn't matter, I bet thats why we lost, damn kangaroos in our way...

but britain would have crumbled without us....


:rolleyes:

(note: everything in this post was created from the mind of a smart ass and is not to be taken seriously)

[barrk]

If the truth be known...the Australians played an enormously crucial part in WWII. As for presenting a bill...we (Americans) are still paying the price of restoration 50 years later. War is UGLY! It is not anything to be entered into lightly or disregarded. We "lost" Vietnam because we did just that. No one or nothing is really to blame for it.

Let's all just sit back...crack a beer and pray to God (or Joe or whoever) that we never have to go to war again. Unless it's over something really important like who the biggest smart-ass is!

Good idea,
*Dennis pulls beer out of barrk's refridgerator, opens it, and downs it in about a second*

*cough*
what kind of beer is this??

Coors Light!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*spit* *spit* *spit*

I've been poisoned!!!!

:rolleyes:

Could'a been worse, Dennis. I used to drink something
called AncientAge 800. After about 800 of them you STILL
thought it tasted like ****.

DerFarm

[barrk]

sorry.....I drink Sam Adams usually. My husband also makes a great homebrew! It will knock the most experienced drinkers on their butts!

I'll take the homebrew.....
never had that before...

*Dennis pulls homebrew out of barrk's refridgerator*

*Drinks it*

Ahhh, I am blind, and drunk, ahhhhh help me, oh wait *Dennis opens eyes* Ahhhh thats better, gimme another....


:rolleyes:

[barrk]

I said it would knock the most experienced drinkers on their butts...it would probably kill a kid like you! Better stick to milk until you're a little older..and wiser...wait a minute you are the wise-ass king aren't you??? Ok....you can have a sip. :-)

Naaaahhh it wouldn't kill me...

maybe knock me out for a week or so... but it wouldn't kill me... I have a very high tolerance for everything...

sometimes I have to take 2x the medicine becuase i have such a high tolerance...

*Saying this, dennis pulls another home-brew out of barrks fridge, and sips it, hoping to stay awake long enough to finish this post.*

that was.... *Dennis passes out*.....

[HarryW]

Okay, in light of the fact that there has been a call for peace I'm saying nothing about the whole WW2 thing, but I have a fair bit I'd to say about it.

Anybody seen Independance Day? You must ahve done. That's a prime example of the American attitude as far as the rest of the world sees it - America saves the world again ;)

Tell your husband to get brewing...

Will grab Dennis, Harry, Iain and the lads and be over your place to watch the cricket....don't worry doesn't go five days any more....at least if the aussies are playing.

Bliss.....four or so days at barrks drinking home brew and watching the cricket....will we need sun screen.

Don't worry about food, Dennis is a dab hand at the road kill....

I'll make the food, but you've gotta provide the roadkill,

only get the ones that don't have bugs, and still have height to them...

the "empty" (flat) ones are used to wrap the full(not flat) ones.....

:rolleyes:

Stir Fried Kangaroo....hope barrk has some herbs in her kitchen.....oh and some stuff to spice the meat. Bringing the bong:):):):)

Also will bring my video collection of famous drawn test matches to start the festivities....only about thirty hours worth unfortunetly.

I wonder if barrk would get upset if we re-arranged the furniture into a grand stand.....

[Sophtware]

REALLY!!!!!!!! :eek: !





:eek: :eek: :eek: Sorry :eek: i could not think of anything better to :eek: SAY! ;)







[Edited by Sophtware on 11-01-2000 at 09:21 PM]

Great. I'll bring my favorite record!

"Fat Harry and the Red Horse Polka band Play the BEST OF
101 STRINGS"


DerFarm

[barrk]

We've got cricket on pay-per-view...plenty of cold ones, road-kill jack rabbits and lots of room to howl!

Better do it before the elections though. Money might be tight if George W wins.

Not a good idea to bet on Presidential elections. Last
time I did, I ended up in the 'Nam Highlands for 18 months.
Expensive real estate.

DerFarm

[barrk]

Most of the folks (military) I work with seem to think they'll get a pay increase if they vote for Bush. I think they'll get a lot more than they bargained for (and I don't mean that in a good way) if he wins.

So are you coming over for some brew??

Nothing better....a couple of oh ah Glen McGrah overs...loss the clothes, dive in the pool, and hit the brews.

jethro, if you lose your clothes, I'll kick your ass...

that includes any of you on here(including me)....

so you better watch out...

:rolleyes:

[barrk]

Pool and hot tub included! Clothing is optional in the pool but we have a no clothing rule for the hot tub due to laundry detergent issues!

Dennis

You'll just have to go with the flow, not many of us look good with no clothes on, doesn't matter. Had an company meeting last night, Phantomd (and does he look frightening naked...must be the tats) brought along a couple of bottles of vodka. Well one thing lead to another, next door is a pool company, it was a hot night, so what the flock clothes off and straight in. Unfortunetly none of the ladies joined us....l think they were too busy laughing.

barrk

Hot tub.......babe you may never get rid of us:) Well at least while the brews hold on, though l guess we could get Dennis on his bike down to the local bottle shop...not sure of the US terminology.

Americans

Have been over a few times (vbits etc), and it never ceases to amaze me that Americans will not sit at the bar, get a drink, and talk to the bartender. Went to Lefty O'tools in San Fran...man is that place cool....sat at the bar and had a mag to the bartender, one huge black guy, and believe me you get bigger shots that way. Ended up giving him a Waratah jersey.

P.S Doesn't anyone order wine by the bottle in Resturants???
Phantomd and myself got some strange looks when we ordered a couple. Hey, we were with our wives and everything.

[barrk]

Us Americans are pretty uptight when it comes to drinking in public. For some reason our society would rather have you be a closet drunk. You can't turn on the radio, TV, whatever without hearing a public service announcement against drinking, smoking, having unprotected sex...anything fun is forbidden. I have to go outside to smoke at work...in California you can't even smoke in bars! The anti-smoking nazi's run the whole damn state.

[Sophtware]

I wonder who was the f-ing genious that came up with that idea...

people go to a bar too drink and SMOKE ... and second.. how did that "no smoking in bars law actually become a law..who voted for it!"


oh well...these damn communazis.

[Chris_SE]

See, the prob is that we HAVE been in almost every war in the last century. Even civil wars! We shouldn't be involved in other people's affaris as much as we are. And dont say its to fight communism, because that STILL didn't spread. I do think we should have intervened in WW2, after the whole mexico-germany thing and the pearl harbor attack though. Although lately I've been hearing we knew of that attack beforehand.... Btw does Bush REALLY blame the ISPs?

Fear Bush

Deck Gore

Vote Nader :)

[Chris_SE]

I actually posted that above post late yesterday.....wierd

barrk

Yeah they have banned smoking in resturants here, but not yet in bars/pubs/hotels. The state government claim they will bring that in over the next couple of years. The pub is history when that happens.

chris_se

Yeap we should have keeped out of Vietnam, (oz and kiwi combat troops were deployed there). Basically you had a whole series of western countries deciding they didn't like the way the locals were going to run their government. And to make it worse Uncle Ho's boys kick our asses from the Mekong to the dmz.