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Jan 24th, 2005, 08:15 AM
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Lottery win odds [resolved]
How do you calculate the odds of winning the lottery?
You choose 6 numbers from a range of 1 to 49 and the odds should come out at 13.9 million to 1 against. But my hungover brain can't suss out how to calculate it.
Last edited by wossname; Jan 26th, 2005 at 08:40 AM.
I don't live here any more.
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Jan 24th, 2005, 04:48 PM
#2
Hyperactive Member
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Jan 24th, 2005, 05:32 PM
#3
Re: Lottery win odds
(49*48*47*46*45*44)/(1*2*3*4*5*6)=x
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Last edited by NoteMe; Jan 26th, 2005 at 08:57 AM.
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Jan 25th, 2005, 01:42 AM
#4
Re: Lottery win odds
7.1511238420185162619416617037867e-8
1:13million?
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Jan 25th, 2005, 04:20 AM
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Re: Lottery win odds
 Originally Posted by dogfish227
49^6
= 13.8 Billion
Only 3 orders of magnitude out
I don't live here any more.
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Jan 25th, 2005, 04:21 AM
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Re: Lottery win odds
 Originally Posted by dglienna
1:13million?
Yep, looks like noteme is right.
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Jan 25th, 2005, 10:13 AM
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Fanatic Member
Re: Lottery win odds
The odds aren't important, the average payout vs average cost is important.
Note: There are situations in the lottery where payout are higher than cost!
For example: You're going to lose your house unless you make 100$ within the next hour. Go to the store and buy some scratch-n-wins! The cost of NOT playing is you lose your house. The cost of playing is a dollar + a near sure change of losing your house!
Assuming your house is worth 10 000$, you only need a 0.00001 chance of winning a 101$ to justify playing.
Of course the reason you're losing your house is because you played the lottery in the first place, moron.
Don't pay attention to this signature, it's contradictory.
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Jan 25th, 2005, 12:41 PM
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Re: Lottery win odds
 Originally Posted by wossname
Yep, looks like noteme is right.
That is the only Q I managed on my exam a few years back....or at least not far from the truth....I got my first C that year...
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Jan 26th, 2005, 01:21 AM
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Re: Lottery win odds
million, or billion. when it is chances of winning the lottery, it doesn't really matter. i started playing for 4 months this year, and then quit. wasted a dollar per day, and won $15 dollars. 1/6. Waste of money.
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Jan 26th, 2005, 01:36 AM
#10
Re: Lottery win odds
There is no sutch lottery where everyone earns on it. So you have to be lucky to gain money, thats why it is called a lottery. You will never have the ods on your side...
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Jan 26th, 2005, 07:01 AM
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Re: Lottery win odds
I'm going to buy 14 million tickets and pay for them with an IOU. (On a roll-over week, so the jackpot is more than £14million) then pay for the original tickets with my winnings and keep the leftover cash!!
Perfect plan, it cannot fail.
I don't live here any more.
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Jan 26th, 2005, 08:22 AM
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Fanatic Member
Re: Lottery win odds
 Originally Posted by wossname
I'm going to buy 14 million tickets and pay for them with an IOU. (On a roll-over week, so the jackpot is more than £14million) then pay for the original tickets with my winnings and keep the leftover cash!!
Perfect plan, it cannot fail.
Doesn't a lottery ticket cost more than a dollar? What if someone else wins, too?
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Jan 26th, 2005, 08:39 AM
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Re: Lottery win odds
 Originally Posted by alkatran
Doesn't a lottery ticket cost more than a dollar? What if someone else wins, too?
Yes. £1 = approx $1.65. There are places outside america you know. 
Nobody else would be allowed to win, because I say so.
I don't live here any more.
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Jan 26th, 2005, 08:41 AM
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New Member
Re: Lottery win odds
The number of combinations is actually 49x48x47x46x45x44, not 49^6, because you can't use the same number again and so the pool of available numbers decreases.
For ease of calculation, that's the same as 49!/43! which is 10068347520
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Jan 26th, 2005, 08:58 AM
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Re: Lottery win odds [resolved]
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Jan 26th, 2005, 09:25 AM
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New Member
Re: Lottery win odds [resolved]
I was puzzled as to why NoteMe's solution has the 6! in there. I just dug around and it's to do with the fact that some of the groups in the 10068347520 possibilities are the same as others, just drawn in a different sequence. For any 6 number group, there are 6 ways of defining the first ball, 5 for the second etc, so the 10068347520 actually gets reduced by a factor of 6!=720, to be the 14milliion.
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Jan 26th, 2005, 09:28 AM
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Re: Lottery win odds [resolved]
Never be pusseled by my posts...
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Jan 26th, 2005, 10:07 AM
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Banned
Re: Lottery win odds [resolved]
 Originally Posted by NoteMe
Never be pusseled by my posts... 
Permutations and combinations, ever hear of n choose m
n combinations choose m.
You have 49 or n numbers you can only choose 1 result for that single spot.
If its a 6 digit lottery system you have 6! chances.
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Jan 26th, 2005, 10:24 AM
#19
Re: Lottery win odds [resolved]
 Originally Posted by jhermiz
Permutations and combinations, ever hear of n choose m
n combinations choose m.
You have 49 or n numbers you can only choose 1 result for that single spot.
If its a 6 digit lottery system you have 6! chances.
Why did you quote me on that one....I was the one that was right here....look at all the others...
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Jan 26th, 2005, 10:39 AM
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Banned
Re: Lottery win odds [resolved]
 Originally Posted by NoteMe
Why did you quote me on that one....I was the one that was right here....look at all the others... 
49!/43!*6!
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Jan 26th, 2005, 10:43 AM
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Banned
Re: Lottery win odds [resolved]
 Originally Posted by NoteMe
Why did you quote me on that one....I was the one that was right here....look at all the others... 
Sorry I didnt see your solution
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Jan 26th, 2005, 10:47 AM
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Re: Lottery win odds [resolved]
if you mean that that 6 is under the line, then you just wrote the same as I did....
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Jan 26th, 2005, 10:48 AM
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Re: Lottery win odds [resolved]
 Originally Posted by jhermiz
Sorry I didnt see your solution 
Hehe....you managed to post before me...
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