You're nicked!!!!

**visualAd** · Sep 17th, 2004, 04:20 PM

You do not have to say anything
But it may harm your defense if you do not mention,
when questioned something which you later rely on in court.
Anything you do say may be given in evidence.

**CORONA BEER** · Sep 17th, 2004, 05:05 PM

VA why aren't you in the active users list anymore, are you hiding from us

**visualAd** · Sep 17th, 2004, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by CORONA BEER
VA why aren't you in the active users list anymore, are you hiding from us

That's becuase NoteMe kept stalking me

**CORONA BEER** · Sep 17th, 2004, 05:20 PM

**NoteMe** · Sep 17th, 2004, 07:07 PM

I have never stalked anyone....;(

**demotivater** · Sep 17th, 2004, 09:13 PM

You have the right to remain silent.

Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

You have the right to an attorney.

If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.

Miranda rights. One of my criminal justice professors told me about the guy in the case (Miranda vs. Arizona) that spurred the US Supreme Court to rule that anyone taken into custoday must be informed of their 5th Ammendment rights. Seems that at some point (don't remember the time frame) after the court ruling Miranda got stabbed to death in a bar fight. The cops busted the guy that stabbed him, but he chose to exercise his Miranda rights and didn't talk. So, he was released and nobody got charged for Mirandas death.

**CORONA BEER** · Sep 18th, 2004, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by demotivater
Miranda rights. One of my criminal justice professors told me about the guy in the case (Miranda vs. Arizona) that spurred the US Supreme Court to rule that anyone taken into custoday must be informed of their 5th Ammendment rights. Seems that at some point (don't remember the time frame) after the court ruling Miranda got stabbed to death in a bar fight. The cops busted the guy that stabbed him, but he chose to exercise his Miranda rights and didn't talk. So, he was released and nobody got charged for Mirandas death.

Can police choose to not read you those rights? They dont do that
here.

**mendhak** · Sep 18th, 2004, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Can police choose to not read you those rights? They dont do that
here.

Either they're deliberately illiterate, or they know you on a first name basis.

**visualAd** · Sep 18th, 2004, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Can police choose to not read you those rights? They dont do that
here.

No point in saying them if you get arrested for being drunk and disorderly.

**dglienna** · Sep 18th, 2004, 01:19 AM

but they'll testify that you *were* properly Mirandized, so it's really your word against their's. who do you think the judge believes? go figure...

**Electroman** · Sep 18th, 2004, 07:18 AM

Posted by CORONA BEER
Can police choose to not read you those rights? They dont do that
here.

They have to everytime, but only if you are actually arrested, if they take you in for questioning then they don't have to. And unless they arrest you you can refuse to go with them

. BTW the words will probably be a little different over there though

.

**visualAd** · Sep 18th, 2004, 07:21 AM

You don't have to be arrested to have your rights read to you. I have been told them several times and on all three occasions iI wasn't under arrest. It also doesn't have to be a police office either.

**Electroman** · Sep 18th, 2004, 07:27 AM

Posted by visualAd
You don't have to be arrested to have your rights read to you. I have been told them several times and on all three occasions iI wasn't under arrest. It also doesn't have to be a police office either.

Really? Are we talking cations here? If you get a cation you'd have been arrested first of all then just not been charged?

**wossname** · Sep 18th, 2004, 07:28 AM

"But he was only a cop! He had it coming to him! Yeah, and I'd do it again too!"

**visualAd** · Sep 18th, 2004, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by Electroman
Really? Are we talking cations here? If you get a cation you'd have been arrested first of all then just not been charged?

Nope - Never been arrested.

I was told my rights by a woman from the Inland Revenue for some tax query over the phone, at the train station by a revenue collection officer and by a cop. I'm not sure what the exact rules are but I think you have to be read them if you are about to be questioned and if your answers are going to be used in court.

The best thing is they have to make sure you understand what they've just told you, so if you say that youdon't then they'll have to re explain it

**Electroman** · Sep 18th, 2004, 07:35 AM

Yea but If you are arrested you must be told them. I was thinking you'd said you didn't have to :doh:.

Why did the Cop read your rights? If you don't mind my asking.

**wossname** · Sep 18th, 2004, 07:57 AM

Why do criminals on TV always let themselves get arrested? fair enough in the USA the cops all have guns and tazers. But in the UK they usually just have a stick to hit people with.

Defending yourself against a bloke with a stick isn't hard. It's a basic part of every self defense class available. And yet, as Sherriff John Bunnell is quick to point out, down they go immediately. Bang!

**visualAd** · Sep 18th, 2004, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Electroman
Why did the Cop read your rights? If you don't mind my asking.

When someone stole something from our local supermarket the officer said I was a suspect becuase I set off the alarm. So he asked me if I would go to the local station - when I got there he didn't arrest me, just read me my rights and asked me questions. Nothing came of it though.

The other time was when the Inland revenue thought I hadn't declared my jobs and was trying to evade my tax.

The time at tthe station was when I lost my ticket.

I was innocent on all three counts of course

**dglienna** · Sep 19th, 2004, 01:34 AM

thats what they ALL say.

**CORONA BEER** · Sep 19th, 2004, 01:39 AM

Everytime i get arrested I have no rights, they give you some rights the next day though, they let you see a joke of a judge, thats tells you your charge asks you if you plea guilty, not guilty, no contest, then they set your bail. then the fun starts, if no body posts your bail then they send you to county.

**Electroman** · Sep 19th, 2004, 06:30 AM

We don't have to pay to bail people out

.

**wossname** · Sep 19th, 2004, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Electroman
We don't have to pay to bail people out .

I often find it cheaper to tip the judge a few thou before the trial, "Case Dismissed" are the nicest words in the language.

Usually 15% of the bail amount does the trick. Murder is hard to get off though, the tip usually rises to 80% in that situation. Still, its cheaper than paying bail.

**visualAd** · Sep 19th, 2004, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by wossname
I often find it cheaper to tip the judge a few thou before the trial, "Case Dismissed" are the nicest words in the language.

Usually 15% of the bail amount does the trick. Murder is hard to get off though, the tip usually rises to 80% in that situation. Still, its cheaper than paying bail.

If they use sandpaper instead of money for bail, the criminal justice system would fair a lot better

**wossname** · Sep 19th, 2004, 09:28 AM

Hey I'm still waiting to see your PensiExtension.

**Merri** · Sep 19th, 2004, 09:30 AM

Do it Austin Powers style.

**visualAd** · Sep 19th, 2004, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by wossname
Hey I'm still waiting to see your PensiExtension.

I know you are. Right now my pensi has more pressing matters. This is my last week I get to be with my g/f before she disappears for four months.

I'm looking to get it done sometime next week - hope this isn't too late

**BodwadUK** · Sep 20th, 2004, 02:43 AM

I have never even spoken to a Police officer. Its rare to see them in this country

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