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NoteMe
Jun 1st, 2004, 11:39 AM
The last month I have started to get spam on in my mail. Does anyone know about any good free smap killers?

Using Oulook XP BTW.

Ideas Man
Jun 1st, 2004, 08:36 PM
Didn't you ask this once before? Someone did. Anyway, if you don't mind the upgrade, Outlook 2003 has a great spam filter not to mention a much nicer interface and it will always be inline with the newest spam filter rules things that Microsoft release also, they do update the spam filter from time to time, works quite well.

NoteMe
Jun 2nd, 2004, 06:32 AM
Nope..didn't ask about that before. Yeah I saw that Outlook 2003 had a spamfilter download. Maybe I should upgrade. Thanks

Ideas Man
Jun 2nd, 2004, 08:32 AM
Mmm, must been someone else, oh well. Yeah, it's an excellent buy, I love it to death, and the features work really well, I'd also strongly recommend that you download and install the Personal File Backup utility that's located in the downloads area of the site in Outlook 2003. Top little tool, works great.

NoteMe
Jun 2nd, 2004, 02:12 PM
One more question tho'. Can I save all the emails, and folders and contacs from Oulook XP and import it in Outook 2003, or is the files not compatible?

extant solution
Jun 2nd, 2004, 04:16 PM
you sure can
just save addbk as csv file, can import to webmail like yahoo also

NoteMe
Jun 2nd, 2004, 04:23 PM
Thanks, I think I will try this..

Ideas Man
Jun 3rd, 2004, 01:08 AM
Yeah, without a doubt, if you do an upgrade, it will update it for you.

visualAd
Jun 3rd, 2004, 02:13 AM
The octopus (PopFile) rules. I have been using it for about a year now and it hardley every yields a false positive.

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/

NoteMe
Jun 3rd, 2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by visualAd
The octopus (PopFile) rules. I have been using it for about a year now and it hardley every yields a false positive.

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/

It was even a Norwegain version there...:D....but I have some problems with potty training here...I have said that the mails from jupitermedia are going in the inbox, but it still won't listen...:(

NoteMe
Jun 3rd, 2004, 11:57 AM
Checked again. And it actually classifies it, but in the subject line it still sais:

[Unclasified]

Does it do that to you too on all the mails?

NoteMe
Jun 3rd, 2004, 12:23 PM
I got it now...I first had to press re-classify then classify after that....:rolleyes:...

ok..got it going now. Will try it out for a while.

But isn't this actualy just a wrap around the build in teacher in Outook. At least I found out that there was a buildt in teacher in Oulook reading through these FAQs..:D

visualAd
Jun 3rd, 2004, 01:31 PM
You will get a few unclassified e-mails at first but as you train it; it will get better.

You get PopFile to add an X-Text-Classification header to the e-mail instead of modifying the subject line. It makes it look neater.

Also - PopFile works better if you have a small number of buckets. I have 4 and have 98.9% accuracy.

NoteMe
Jun 3rd, 2004, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by visualAd
You will get a few unclassified e-mails at first but as you train it; it will get better.

You get PopFile to add an X-Text-Classification header to the e-mail instead of modifying the subject line. It makes it look neater.

Also - PopFile works better if you have a small number of buckets. I have 4 and have 98.9% accuracy.


I have at the moment 2...:D....but every time I get new spam from a new mail adress, I have to teach it where to go. Did I miss anything. Becase there will always be spam from diffrent mail adresses...

visualAd
Jun 3rd, 2004, 03:29 PM
Well it analysis the whole e-mail - not just the address. Whnever you reclassify and e-mail it gives each word in the e-mail a statistical rating associated with the bucket.

I'm not sure of the mathematics behind it - but I know that if it yields a false positive and you reclassify, the rating of each word is given a good bashing.

Rather than try to explain I'll give you an article on Bayesian Filters (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/B/Bayesian_filter.html)

NoteMe
Jun 3rd, 2004, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by visualAd
Well it analysis the whole e-mail - not just the address. Whnever you reclassify and e-mail it gives each word in the e-mail a statistical rating associated with the bucket.

I'm not sure of the mathematics behind it - but I know that if it yields a false positive and you reclassify, the rating of each word is given a good bashing.

Rather than try to explain I'll give you an article on Bayesian Filters (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/B/Bayesian_filter.html)


OK thanks. I better keep teaching it for a while, and see how much better it gets.

Thanks for all your help. Might save me some money...;)

Ideas Man
Jun 4th, 2004, 01:09 AM
You could also try Ella, supposed to be the best, seen many reviews and it came up on top. Wouldn't put down Outlook 2003 though either, still an excellent buy :bigyello:.

NoteMe
Jun 4th, 2004, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Ideas Man
You could also try Ella, supposed to be the best, seen many reviews and it came up on top. Wouldn't put down Outlook 2003 though either, still an excellent buy :bigyello:.

I don't have the time to set up Outlook 2003 before after my exams anyway. So I will try anything that can be tried before that. Then if it's not good enough, then I will buy Outlook 2003.

Thanks