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Aug 23rd, 2000, 12:14 PM
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Thread Starter
Member
excuse the title, but had to think of someway to link this post to be VB related 
Well, anyways, whats a better language to learn? VC++ or regular C/C++? I guess it depends on what you want to program, but in general?
Like advantages/disadvantages.
Thanks..
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Aug 23rd, 2000, 01:31 PM
#2
Monday Morning Lunatic
VC++ isn't a language, it's an IDE. Definitely learn C++, it is useful to have. Specific to VC++, though, MFC can make creating Windows apps easy, although it is getting very bloated, when it is relatively easy to do it yourself.
I refuse to tie my hands behind my back and hear somebody say "Bend Over, Boy, Because You Have It Coming To You".
-- Linus Torvalds
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Aug 23rd, 2000, 01:31 PM
#3
Fanatic Member
I've got a book on C++ (not VC++) and they are all pretty trivial console-mode apps. I think VC++ is far more worthwhile. You can actually create a Windows-like app with VC++, but with C++, you are stuck with a simple i/o stream.
I think learning C++ is worthwhile, but your ambition should always be to move on to VC++.
Great words from a great man.
(Me)
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Aug 23rd, 2000, 01:34 PM
#4
Monday Morning Lunatic
You don't need any VC++ specific features to make a windows app...
I refuse to tie my hands behind my back and hear somebody say "Bend Over, Boy, Because You Have It Coming To You".
-- Linus Torvalds
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Aug 23rd, 2000, 01:42 PM
#5
If you know enough C++(I dont ) you can use something like Dev-C++ to make a windows app,
and it doesnt use MFC, but its pretty good and free, when the site is back up visit
http://www.bloodshed.net
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Aug 23rd, 2000, 02:08 PM
#6
Fanatic Member
First learn standard C and get familiar with the syntax, libraries and of coarse: pointers/arrays!
There are thousands of books for C/C++. The best, I don't know. I learned the basics in school and the rest with a lot of common sense, fantasy and Borland's IDE for DOS...
Please don't laugh with me, but I think the best tutorial to obtain simple programs is Borland's Turbo C/C++ compiler for Windows 3.x.
It's the best start for a beginner. the only disadvantage is that you work in a DOS environment, but who cares? As long as you get your results on screen, why not?
Consider also this: graphics in DOS are much faster than in Windows (excluding DirectX).
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Aug 23rd, 2000, 02:24 PM
#7
Monday Morning Lunatic
I know this is for C, but Kernighan and Ritchie's original book on C is probably the best anywhere. For C++, I believe there is a new one in the same series (white, blue writing on the cover).
I refuse to tie my hands behind my back and hear somebody say "Bend Over, Boy, Because You Have It Coming To You".
-- Linus Torvalds
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Aug 23rd, 2000, 02:58 PM
#8
Fanatic Member
K & R are indeed the roots, but I was mentioning a compiler/linker/IDE to try some programs out that one has written.
It does not require all Windows DLL and OCX and ...
When I'm experiment with algorithms I always try them out with Borland's IDE (now: Inprise, C/C++ for Windows 3.x is obsolete)
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Aug 23rd, 2000, 03:33 PM
#9
Frenzied Member
When I was enquiring about good books to start off on, I was told by several different people that Deitel and Deitel were good authors, they wrote 'C++: How to Program' which I jsut happen to have right next to me now, so I'll tell you the ISBN number.... 0-13-528910-6
Apparently it's very good, and I'm inclined to agree
Harry.
"From one thing, know ten thousand things."
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