Which OS is better (Unix or Windows) ?

**sw_is_great** · Dec 24th, 2003, 06:30 PM

Which OS is better (Unix or Windows) ?

Guys I know there are hell lots of Unix flavours and also lot of windows, still generally what do u think.
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**sw_is_great** · Dec 24th, 2003, 06:30 PM

I personally think Unix.Specially Sun solaris...

**sw_is_great** · Dec 24th, 2003, 06:31 PM

Come On Guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ur views !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**hellswraith** · Dec 24th, 2003, 07:19 PM

This is just an opinion, one which would cause a flame war.

I believe both OS's are for different purposes, therefor neither is better.

MS is made for consumers and the masses, Unix hasn't even came close to that yet (but getting closer).

Unix is stable as hell, and MS hasn't came close to that yet (although lateley they are getting closer also).

**sw_is_great** · Dec 24th, 2003, 07:24 PM

Thats not totally true

for big organisations the projects are mainly in unix.... of course wheer too much gui supooort is not needed...

for batch processing unix is the best

**Kasracer** · Dec 25th, 2003, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by sw_is_great
Thats not totally true

for big organisations the projects are mainly in unix.... of course wheer too much gui supooort is not needed...

for batch processing unix is the best

Uhh, you realize what you posted doesn't disprove what he said, right?

**Protocol** · Dec 26th, 2003, 11:57 AM

Unix is better than Windows...

(So then why the hell am I still using Windows?)

But then again it all depends on what you wan't to use it for...

P.S.... with enough instigation this could cause an OS War....

**abhijit** · Jan 23rd, 2004, 12:03 AM

There is another thread going along these same lines. Its titled Who likes windows?

-Abhijit

**Shaggy Hiker** · Jan 24th, 2004, 11:57 AM

I like the fact that SW_is_great asks and begs for an opinion, and when Hellswraith finally gave him one, his response was "you're wrong"

**Kasracer** · Jan 24th, 2004, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by sw_is_great
Which OS is better (Unix or Windows) ?

Guys I know there are hell lots of Unix flavours and also lot of windows, still generally what do u think.
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Where are all of this Unix flavors? I've never heard of 'Unix flavors'

**CornedBee** · Jan 25th, 2004, 01:12 PM

SystemV, Solaris, Linux, BSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD.

Enough for ya?

**Kasracer** · Jan 25th, 2004, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by CornedBee
Linux, BSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD.

Enough for ya?

If you consider them Unix flavors, might as well put OSX in there. I was talking about just Unix, not OSes built on Unix.

Er... I think I just confused myself now, lol I'm leaving

**CornedBee** · Jan 25th, 2004, 01:32 PM

No, OSX is an OS built on some existing Unix-like kernel, while the OSs I listed ARE Unix-like kernels.

**OrdinaryGuy** · Jan 27th, 2004, 11:34 AM

Windows 2003 is a much more superior product than any flavor of unix

**Kasracer** · Jan 27th, 2004, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by OrdinaryGuy
Windows 2003 is a much more superior product than any flavor of unix

Windows 2003 sucks. I tried the enterprize evaluation copy and after I ran windows updates, I got a BSOD on boot-up everytime. Either in safe mode or not and it was related to the page file.... NONE OF THE UPDATES WERE FOR THE PAGE FILE!

Linux has never done that to me. Linux or FreeBSD > Windows as a server. Hands down.

**OrdinaryGuy** · Feb 14th, 2004, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by kasracer
Windows 2003 sucks. I tried the enterprize evaluation copy and after I ran windows updates, I got a BSOD on boot-up everytime. Either in safe mode or not and it was related to the page file.... NONE OF THE UPDATES WERE FOR THE PAGE FILE!

Linux has never done that to me. Linux or FreeBSD > Windows as a server. Hands down.

Not sure about that
Works great for me. Very stable.
IIS6 rocks. Waaaay better than Apache when you look at the features it offers.

**OrdinaryGuy** · Feb 14th, 2004, 04:44 AM

I find the anti-microsoft campaign full of crap

Microsoft writes great software.
They have contributed alot to to putting a computer in every home than you think.

**CornedBee** · Feb 14th, 2004, 06:27 AM

Waaaay better than Apache when you look at the features it offers.

What kind of features?

**OrdinaryGuy** · Feb 14th, 2004, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by CornedBee
What kind of features?

Application pools - makes Apache look like for kids

**CornedBee** · Feb 14th, 2004, 07:21 AM

What's that?

**hellswraith** · Feb 14th, 2004, 02:16 PM

I think by application pooling he is refering to web applications running on their own threads. If one app crashes, it doesn't bring down the rest....plus, IIS6 will try restarting the app that crashed without any user intervention....that is if I remember right....been a while since I have messed with it.

I like the XML config file, that if you screw up, IIS will restore it back for your dumb ass. Nice. The server stays up, even if you are an idiot and don't close one of your tags.

Also, when you change the config file IIS takes the change automatically instead of having to stop it and restart it..

Just some of the great features I remember hearing about it....I couldn't tell you if some are in apache or not, I have never used apache.

As far as Win 2003 Server, I have had NO problems with it. None, zilch, nada. We set it up, updated it, routed Internet traffic to it, and not a single problem. I would have to say it does exactly what it is supposed to do. About time huh...lol. Anyway, in my experience, it isn't crap. We have plenty of customers that are now using it as their OS for some of our web apps/web services, and the 2003 servers just run, and stay running. No unscheduled downtimes to date.... although we are talking about 1 year here, it is starting a great trackrecord by us.

**Edneeis** · Feb 14th, 2004, 04:07 PM

I agree windows 2003 is great! The only problem I've had with it, which I assume is driver related, is sometimes after updates it restarts but netlogon never fires up. If you press the restart button then all is well again. It doesn't happen everytime though and not often enough that I've bothered to investigate it. Other than that all is well.

The application pooling in 2003 is actually more than just running on a different thread. You can assign different security and different settings to that thread kind of like giving it a role based feel. It's great.

PS: By netlogon never fires up I mean it starts and runs but the logon dialog never comes up. I know it is running because the web apps get served.

PSS: Why is this in General Developer Forum and not General PC?

**Kasracer** · Feb 15th, 2004, 01:43 AM

I tried to run the Enterprize Edition of WIndows2003 (It was a trial) and when I ran windows update, as soon as I restarted I got BSODs.

It continued to happen to when I tried 2 more times as well.

**CornedBee** · Feb 15th, 2004, 05:44 AM

This application pooling leaves me wondering.

You see, what is there to crash? Server extensions? Don't think IIS can stop them from crashing the server, and why should they crash anyway? Have never seen any Apache modules crash.
Server-side applications? ASP or ASP.Net? Can they crash? If so, it's very poor design. PHP scripts never crash, and the JVM catches any serious errors in JSP pages or servlets. CGI scripts run in separate processes anyway.

What use is this then? The different security levels can be assigned on a directory basis in Apache, and various webapps get various security permissions from the Tomcat Servlet container.

I think you can send a signal to Apache telling it to reload the config. Not sure about this though.
Ok, checked this. If you issue a restart to Apache, it will stop taking new requests, reread the config and then continue normal operation.

**hellswraith** · Feb 15th, 2004, 03:02 PM

I wish I could compare the two, but my knowledge just extends just enough of IIS 6 to be dangerous with it...lol. I have no knowledge of Apache.

I do know that IIS 6 kicks IIS 5's ass when it comes to stability as a web server. We all know that IIS 5 was a joke as a real web server solution, but IIS 6 is ready to at least start challenging Apache. At least that is what I hear from others.

**CornedBee** · Feb 15th, 2004, 04:49 PM

You see, I never used IIS and have no wish to do it, so I can't tell about the other side.

But Apache runs everywhere, and I doubt IIS will ever support anything but Windows.

**hellswraith** · Feb 16th, 2004, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by CornedBee
You see, I never used IIS and have no wish to do it, so I can't tell about the other side.

But Apache runs everywhere, and I doubt IIS will ever support anything but Windows.

True...can't argue that one...

**nkad** · Feb 18th, 2004, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by kasracer
I tried to run the Enterprize Edition of WIndows2003 (It was a trial) and when I ran windows update, as soon as I restarted I got BSODs.

It continued to happen to when I tried 2 more times as well.

Nothing ever works for you, does it? lol

**Kasracer** · Feb 18th, 2004, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by nkad
Nothing ever works for you, does it? lol

No not really

**blackeyed** · Feb 23rd, 2004, 06:09 AM

Well it simply depends what are your requirements. Choose Windows if you are a new bee and if you have mastered your skills on windows and basic concepts of computing and now you want to go into the deeeeep details then shift to Unix.

**CornedBee** · Feb 23rd, 2004, 01:18 PM

Once you're able to navigate and post here, you're ready to try a beginner's Linux distro

**abhijit** · Feb 24th, 2004, 12:16 AM

Time to go get a new CD Writer for trying out a linux distribution.

But then again, windows works for me just fine. Haven't seen a BSOD, since I got rid of Win 98. Now its XP all the way.

Abhijit

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