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Jul 30th, 2003, 10:58 AM
#1
Thread Starter
Dazed Member
integrated graphics?
Should anyone consider buying a computer with integrated graphics? I was reading the specs on a DELL that uses shared memory and they said that about 32 to 64Mb are used for graphics. Would a computer running 256Mb with shared memory be sufficient for most tasks?
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Jul 30th, 2003, 11:46 AM
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Yes, it is more than enough. I have an 8 meg card on my programming computer. But a 128 meg one on gaming and 3d design one.
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Jul 30th, 2003, 10:12 PM
#3
^:^...ANGEL...^:^
If you are not an extensive user of a graphic card then it's way more than enough but if not then stand alone graphics card would be the best option.
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Jul 31st, 2003, 09:48 AM
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I would recommend, it you can, getting one with an AGP slot so that you can upgrade later. Mine has an integrated video card but I installed an ATI 32MB AGP Rage Fury Pro. I wouldnt have bought the bard if it didnt have a AGP slot.
Admiral Michael
Michaelsoft Inc.
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Jul 31st, 2003, 11:57 AM
#5
Thread Starter
Dazed Member
Admiral Michael
I would recommend, it you can, getting one with an AGP slot so that you can upgrade later. Mine has an integrated video card but I installed an ATI 32MB AGP Rage Fury Pro. I wouldnt have bought the bard if it didnt have a AGP slot.
I thought the AGP slot was on the mother board so the Graphics board could plug into it instead of the older PCI slots. 
The computer with the board i was talking about is actually for my cousin which my aunt is going to buy for her since she is starting college. The only thing i didnt like about it was that it had integrated graphics. I just suggested that they order it with at least 256Mb of ram insted of the 128Mb it comes with.
Im running an old 3dfx Voodoo I which i would like to scrap and put in maybe a ATI Pro Radeon 128Mb or a Nividia NV30
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Jul 31st, 2003, 06:51 PM
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^:^...ANGEL...^:^
As I said b4, as long you are not a heavy users of graphics cards potential integrated would be fine. Also all modern motherboards come with AGP so you can always go for seperate one in future.
I would suggest to get 256 MB RAM though.
Cheers.
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Jul 31st, 2003, 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by Dilenger4
I thought the AGP slot was on the mother board so the Graphics board could plug into it instead of the older PCI slots.
The computer with the board i was talking about is actually for my cousin which my aunt is going to buy for her since she is starting college. The only thing i didnt like about it was that it had integrated graphics. I just suggested that they order it with at least 256Mb of ram insted of the 128Mb it comes with.
Im running an old 3dfx Voodoo I which i would like to scrap and put in maybe a ATI Pro Radeon 128Mb or a Nividia NV30
It is on the motherboard. What Im saying is that some boards (like mine) that do have integrated graphcs) also have a AGP slot.
Admiral Michael
Michaelsoft Inc.
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Jul 31st, 2003, 11:37 PM
#8
Thread Starter
Dazed Member
That's cool that they give you an AGP slot on a mother board with integrated graphcs. 
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Aug 1st, 2003, 01:10 AM
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So Unbanned
Originally posted by Dilenger4
That's cool that they give you an AGP slot on a mother board with integrated graphcs.
They better! On-board video cards typically suck.
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Aug 1st, 2003, 08:30 AM
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^:^...ANGEL...^:^
Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
They better! On-board video cards typically suck.
Yes they do but they aint bad either for general purpose.
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Aug 1st, 2003, 10:59 AM
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Ya, but I'd still like the option of being able to upgrade it later on. A friend of mine has a integrated motherboard with integrated graphics and no AGP and he regrets not gettin it with an AGP slot.
Admiral Michael
Michaelsoft Inc.
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Aug 1st, 2003, 07:35 PM
#12
^:^...ANGEL...^:^
Originally posted by Admiral Michael
Ya, but I'd still like the option of being able to upgrade it later on. A friend of mine has a integrated motherboard with integrated graphics and no AGP and he regrets not gettin it with an AGP slot.
Dude nowadays all the motherboards with inbuild sound and graphics also have an AGP slot.
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Aug 1st, 2003, 09:53 PM
#13
Thread Starter
Dazed Member
I don't know when they started to add AGP slots on motherboards with integrated graphics but maybe Admiral Michael's friend bought his computer a while ago. 
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Aug 2nd, 2003, 02:49 AM
#14
Fanatic Member
My computer has integrated graphics (Intel 8245G Graphics Controller-8mb shared), and I use Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2002 and it has quite good graphics.
A.A. Fussy
Babya Software Group
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Aug 8th, 2003, 11:14 PM
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My friend was lookin at the motherboaqrd about 6 days ago. So, not all include an AGP slot.
Admiral Michael
Michaelsoft Inc.
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Aug 9th, 2003, 11:07 AM
#16
Fanatic Member
Some various comments
1. Get 512MB of RAM if possible.
2. Integrated graphics are okay for "office-type" tasks. The only issues you may run into are crappy DACs and thus low refresh rates/blurry pictures, and no DVI (although if you aren't into LCDs I guess it doesn't matter). If you get enough system RAM then the UMA isn't so bad. But get 512MB.
BTW Intel graphics are pretty horrible. Get an nForce 2 IGP board...might even be cheaper as its AMD. Cheaper and faster...what more could you ask for?
3. It is possible to get AGP slots and integrated graphics on the same motherboard because the integrated graphics are done on the southbridge, which is coincidentally the same thing that the AGP bus is connected to. So, if you plug in an AGP card and disable onboard video in the BIOS, the SB just disables its own graphics and passes through to the AGP slot. Tada.
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Aug 19th, 2003, 02:39 PM
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Aug 19th, 2003, 11:18 PM
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This A7N8X has been pretty darn good so far. Barton 2500 at 2.2Ghz 200x11 with RAM at 200Mhz 8-3-3-2.5 dual channel. Screw Intel. LOL.
So 
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Aug 19th, 2003, 11:33 PM
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^:^...ANGEL...^:^
Never realized that this topic is going on and on for 20 days now.
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Aug 19th, 2003, 11:57 PM
#20
Why the hell would you even consider getting on-board graphics? First off, they suck, the CPU speed is extremely slow (even if it has 120mb, it won't be near as good as a Geforece 4 Ti4200) and they arn't over-clockable.
Get a nice, cheap Geforce 4 Ti4200 and BUILD the computer.
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Aug 20th, 2003, 01:58 AM
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^:^...ANGEL...^:^
Originally posted by kasracer
Why the hell would you even consider getting on-board graphics? First off, they suck, the CPU speed is extremely slow (even if it has 120mb, it won't be near as good as a Geforece 4 Ti4200) and they arn't over-clockable.
Get a nice, cheap Geforce 4 Ti4200 and BUILD the computer.
Not exactly my point but I will still buy a seperate graphics card.
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Aug 20th, 2003, 02:09 AM
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So Unbanned
I run an abit kr7a, XP 1600+, 256 MB Micron Crucial DDR RAM.
I have no stability problems.
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Aug 20th, 2003, 02:22 AM
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KING BODWAD XXI
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Aug 20th, 2003, 02:57 AM
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^:^...ANGEL...^:^
Nah...for just a normal home users XP is ok. As long as updated properly with a decent firewall and antivirus installed.
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Aug 20th, 2003, 03:10 AM
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KING BODWAD XXI
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Aug 20th, 2003, 04:11 AM
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Fanatic Member
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Aug 20th, 2003, 04:23 AM
#27
KING BODWAD XXI
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Aug 20th, 2003, 04:29 AM
#28
^:^...ANGEL...^:^
Are one of those ANTI WINDOWS guy because I really don't want to start any debut here.
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Aug 20th, 2003, 04:52 AM
#29
KING BODWAD XXI
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Aug 20th, 2003, 09:08 AM
#30
^:^...ANGEL...^:^
I think you are unlucky...
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Aug 20th, 2003, 09:26 AM
#31
No, WIndows XP is the EXACT same thing as 2k except for more features, faster booting and better support for just about everything.
Windows XP is the most stable operating system microsoft has made, it has great security (it even comes with a firewall, which 2K doesn't, how the hell can you say the security sucks ) it's more reliable than 2K (in all of my experiences) and the compatibility is better than that of 2K.
The stuff you listed was listed out of ignorance, Windows XP was built apon 2K and has the same compatability as 2K has, if not, more.
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Aug 20th, 2003, 09:38 AM
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^:^...ANGEL...^:^
Originally posted by kasracer
Windows XP is the most stable operating system microsoft has made.]
I wouldn't say that.
it has great security (it even comes with a firewall, which 2K doesn't, how the hell can you say the security sucks )
Firewall is crap so no point there.
But it's still a good product.
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Aug 20th, 2003, 10:23 AM
#33
KING BODWAD XXI
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Aug 20th, 2003, 11:57 AM
#34
Originally posted by wrack
I wouldn't say that.
Firewall is crap so no point there.
But it's still a good product.
Windows XP is 1 of the most stable versions microsoft has ever made.
Also, the firewall is fairly good. Not the best but what do you expect from something integrated?
Originally posted by BodwadUK
No it doesnt have the same compatability i use windows 2000 as well and that seems to have more reliable compatability some programs dont work unless you put them in compatability on windows xp.
This is wrong. Windows XP is based apon Windows 2K. Anything that works on 2K will work on XP (unless it is something that works WITH a Win2k feature). If the program only works on WIndows 2000, then you are doing something wrong.
Windows XP's compatability system is, by far, superior than 2K's.
Originally posted by BodwadUK
The networking is no good for automation. Sharing and unsharing just to make it work is now common place here.
Are you trying to say the automated wizards are useless or something? Window's XP Pro's networking capability is superior to 2K's and no one I know has ever had any problems with it. You are also doing something wrong here if sharing and un-sharing is required for something to work. Maybe get a new admin?(if it's in a business)
Windows XP Home is just as good, but the networking ability is lacking compared to XP Pro. Home probably on par with 2K's networking ability.
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Aug 20th, 2003, 03:28 PM
#35
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Aug 20th, 2003, 03:38 PM
#36
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Aug 20th, 2003, 03:39 PM
#37
You got me beat ONLY by CPU and ram speed 
Athlon XP 2100+
512MB PC2100
2X 80GB Maxtor 7200rpm HD
1X 120GB Maxtor 7200 rpm HD (280GB total)
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
Geforce 4 Ti4600 (I did OC it but forgot the speeds, I'll check later)
19" ViewSonic
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Aug 20th, 2003, 08:43 PM
#38
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Aug 20th, 2003, 08:46 PM
#39
Originally posted by siyan
VisionIT and kas...you guys just wait until I kick this puppy up to 2.4Ghz...MUWHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!
And then we'll talk about video card O/Cing.
Barton ACQUA all the way. 
And my LCD eats you alive.
LCD? BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hope you don't game on it. CRTs are best for graphical design(which I do on a daily basis) and games look better on them. The freaking refresh time sucks on the LCDs as well as color.
CRT > LCD
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Aug 20th, 2003, 09:43 PM
#40
Fanatic Member
The ghosting is very much a psychological thing. Use it for a bit and you dont' notice it any more. I play UT2K3, etc. just fine on this thing.
And the colour and geometry are both excellent IMHO.
But I mostly just do basic office tasks on this (well..soon anyways. Going to university) and its MUCH easier on the eyes for me.
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