LAN problem?

**manavo11** · Jul 3rd, 2003, 05:51 PM

I have been trying to make a LAN with the two computers in my house but I have a problem... Both adapters are sending data but neither of them are recieving anything! Could the problem be with the cable?

Thanks

**Edneeis** · Jul 3rd, 2003, 09:09 PM

Do you have a hub or something in between the two? If you just have a cable running from one to the other then yes that is a problem. You can do it that way but only with a crossover cable which reverses the ends.

**Bloit** · Jul 4th, 2003, 03:49 AM

A simple way to check to see if your cable is ok is to see if the network lights on the back of your Network card are on. if so the cable is fine. if you are not using a hub then you definately need a crossover cable.

hope that helps

**<ABX** · Jul 4th, 2003, 04:11 AM

What are the computers os's? Have you got the workgroup set to the same thing on both computers?

Try this:

Goto Start > Run

Type Command
THen type ping 127.0.0.1

if you get replys then that means that the network card is working

do that on both computers

If ur on 98 make sure you get the updates because i've had problems with 98 and network cards seeing computers in Network Neighborhood with out the updates

And make sure, as said before, you have the right cables and they are working

**Walter** · Jul 4th, 2003, 05:02 AM

by typing "ping 127.0.0.1" you'll get a reply regardless of whether the network card is working or not...

because it's a local loopback address, and will work on most computers if the TCP protocol has been installed properly. and if data is being sent then it probably is.

**<ABX** · Jul 4th, 2003, 08:51 AM

your right Walter, I meant TCP\IP and i forgot to tell him to ping the IP assigned to the network card.

**manavo11** · Jul 4th, 2003, 04:12 PM

The lights at the back of the cards go on, it is a crossover cable and after all there was nothing wrong with it. It was just the settings in the properties of the connection we had to fix. It is all working now. Thank you for all the replies

**Admiral Michael** · Jul 12th, 2003, 11:59 AM

Did u assign a Static IP to the TCP/IP protocol? Unless y ou have a router u'll need to do this.

TO check if there is a IP address assigned do the following:

IN WIN98-ME:
START>RUN and type winipcfg

IN WIN 2000-XP(Both Versions)
START>RUN and type cmd
in the command promt type ipconfig

**manavo11** · Jul 12th, 2003, 04:14 PM

I didn't assign but we got different ones. We got it to work last friday afternoon. Then on monday we tried again and nothing happens! It says the cable is disconnected... No idea what is wrong!

**Admiral Michael** · Jul 12th, 2003, 04:33 PM

Maybe the cable is shot.

**manavo11** · Jul 13th, 2003, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Admiral Michael
Maybe the cable is shot.

Who knows! Or maybe one of the cards?

**wrack** · Jul 13th, 2003, 09:44 PM

How about this.

PC 1

IP Address : 10.0.0.1
SubNet Mask : 255.255.255.0

PC 2

IP Address : 10.0.0.2
SubNet Mask : 255.255.255.0

**manavo11** · Jul 14th, 2003, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by wrack
How about this.

PC 1

IP Address : 10.0.0.1
SubNet Mask : 255.255.255.0

PC 2

IP Address : 10.0.0.2
SubNet Mask : 255.255.255.0

Sorry, but what is this?

**wrack** · Jul 14th, 2003, 08:55 AM

Ohh my mistake. I should have been more clear.

Try using the IP addresses and subnet mask I gave here in both PC's and see if they are working. If not then try checking the cable. Simplest way to check a crossover cable is to put 1 end in a socket of a hub and the other end in another socket and if both lights are ON then it's all right else ur cable is dead.

After that u might want to check ur NIC.

**manavo11** · Jul 14th, 2003, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by wrack
Ohh my mistake. I should have been more clear.

Try using the IP addresses and subnet mask I gave here in both PC's and see if they are working. If not then try checking the cable. Simplest way to check a crossover cable is to put 1 end in a socket of a hub and the other end in another socket and if both lights are ON then it's all right else ur cable is dead.

After that u might want to check ur NIC.

Uh, how would I do that? I don't know much about this

**wrack** · Jul 14th, 2003, 09:49 AM

You might have answered this but what operating system r u using?

**manavo11** · Jul 14th, 2003, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by wrack
You might have answered this but what operating system r u using?

Both WIN XP. Greek but I don't think that matters...

**wrack** · Jul 14th, 2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by manavo11
Both WIN XP. Greek but I don't think that matters...

OK do u know how to assign IP address to an adaptor.

Open network connection.
Right click on Local Area Network
Click Property
Double click TCP/IP
DO not use Automatic Assign IP Address
There you can put IP Address
after that put the subnet mask

Same with another PC

After both is done, open system property and click on computer name tab and then click on change.

Make sure both the computer have same workgroup name or domain name. I guess u need to use workgroup name.

To make it easy just put MSHOME as a workgroup name in both and reboot.

Cheers.

**manavo11** · Jul 14th, 2003, 07:25 PM

Thanks. I'll try it as soon as I get a chance

**wrack** · Jul 14th, 2003, 08:57 PM

No problems.

**manavo11** · Jul 17th, 2003, 05:29 PM

Hey wrack, I haven't tested it yet but I didn't quite understand what I am testing and looking for! What is the difference if I set specific IPs?

Thanks

**wrack** · Jul 17th, 2003, 08:04 PM

If both the PC are in same workgroup then generally windows assigns them IP address automatically but if somehow it can't or doing something wrong then by assigning it manually you can be sure of that there is nothing wrong with IP addresses.

Cheers.

**manavo11** · Jul 17th, 2003, 08:12 PM

So if it doesn't work even by assigning my own IP addresses then I should assume that...

**wrack** · Jul 17th, 2003, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by manavo11
So if it doesn't work even by assigning my own IP addresses then I should assume that...

There is a problem with ur cable or hub/switch/rounter or NIC itself in any of the PC.

**manavo11** · Jul 18th, 2003, 08:29 AM

Thanks again. Hopefully I will get a chance to check this shortly

**wrack** · Jul 18th, 2003, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by manavo11
Thanks again. Hopefully I will get a chance to check this shortly

Hope you get success this time.

**manavo11** · Jul 18th, 2003, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by wrack
Hope you get success this time.

Me too

**Admiral Michael** · Jul 31st, 2003, 11:16 PM

any luck?

**wrack** · Aug 1st, 2003, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Admiral Michael
any luck?

I thought this was over...!!!

**manavo11** · Aug 2nd, 2003, 08:18 AM

Well it isn't! lol

My friend works too much so we haven't even tried it yet! I wanted to try it with my computer and my father's but his computer is so f***ed up that without a format there is no hope... So I guess no luck

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