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ns-code
May 10th, 2003, 01:59 PM
Someone asks you: "How much data can you put on a 3.5" floppy"

You say: "1.44 MB"

Wrong!

Here's why: 80 tracks * 18 sectors * 512 bytes * 2 sides = 1474560 bytes / 1024 = 1440 KB / 1024 = 1.41 MB my friends!!!

Now who was the full to do all the above calc and think 1 MB is 1000 KB in the last step?

VisionIT
May 10th, 2003, 02:43 PM
Here's something funny...

Its actually 1.38mb. Redo your maths...

:rolleyes:

ns-code
May 10th, 2003, 03:00 PM
That is usable space after format. Two FAT tables and boot sector take up 16.5 KB (0h to 4200h) :)

VisionIT
May 10th, 2003, 03:20 PM
Again, no!

Dos boot code = 1 sector (0h)
FAT1 = 6 sectors (200h)
FAT2 = 6 sectors (1400h)
Directory structure = 8 sectors (2600h)
Remaining data = rest of disk (4200h)

Two FAT tables & the boot sector take up 13 sectors.

ns-code
May 10th, 2003, 04:08 PM
I was including the root structure.

How many seconds are there in 10 years?

VisionIT
May 10th, 2003, 04:47 PM
I'm not even getting in to this argument. :rolleyes:

Tara.

ns-code
May 11th, 2003, 01:12 AM
I was hoping you would say 315360000. ;)

parksie
May 11th, 2003, 06:45 AM
What? You can get at least 1.6MB on a floppy (use ADFS), and some filesystems get even more :D

VisionIT
May 11th, 2003, 06:46 AM
Haha...

Its actually 63072000, so your around 252288000 to much there M8! :p

So much for not getting in to this argument - lol

For those of you who are puzzled, he meant binary 10, which is 2.

So 60*60*24*365*2

Hope everyone gets it now!

P.S I bet everyone looking at this post has reached for a calculator! :D

ns-code
May 11th, 2003, 06:56 AM
Ha, that one is goot too, but what I meant is that year is 365.25 days, so 315576000 :)

ns-code
May 11th, 2003, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by parksie
What? You can get at least 1.6MB on a floppy (use ADFS), and some filesystems get even more :D

Yes, you can get even 2000 KB if you leave it unformated, but I was talking about standard PC format.

parksie
May 11th, 2003, 07:05 AM
I meant of usable data ;)

You can get more than 1.44MB with FAT too, but I can't remember how.

ns-code
May 11th, 2003, 07:23 AM
Even unformated is usabele if you save raw data.

parksie
May 11th, 2003, 07:40 AM
Yes, but it's quite tricky to do from software. Something whereby you can actually use it properly :)

NoteMe
May 11th, 2003, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by ns-code
Ha, that one is goot too, but what I meant is that year is 365.25 days, so 315576000 :)


No it is not....becasue every 4th year you have an extra day, but that is not exactly, so every 400th years that extra day is not counted, and so on, so it is not exactly 365,25....;)

siyan
May 11th, 2003, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by parksie
Yes, but it's quite tricky to do from software. Something whereby you can actually use it properly :)

Yeah, and plus its a floppy.

Gaining a few KB isn't going to help much is it? Hehe :p

ns-code
May 11th, 2003, 10:25 AM
Year is actually 365.242198 days long. Calculating more digits is meeningles with the precison of instruments we have (theese say Earth rotates in 23 hr. 56 min. 4.091 sec).
So, it's about 315569259,072 seconds.

NoteMe
May 11th, 2003, 01:55 PM
Yes that is more like it ns-code....:D....now I am starting to like you...;)